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Anybody with some info on my post?
I would buy the 775 over the x2000. Yes you can tune your subs manually but you have to know what youre doing and have the right equipment.
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I'm installing tne newegg recent deal 775 tonight to run 9.2 over a dead onkyo 818. I expect it to sing well after some ypao work. and I have a lot of klipsch speakers , except subs
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So I'll go ahead and pull the trigger. If i have problems i'll come back and ask tons of rookie questions.
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I guess that's my question. Considering they are rated at 8ohm but some believe they are 4. But the end result is, it shouldn't be a problem?

The 775 was designed to be stable at 4 ohms. I would not be surprised if the 675 is as well, but check the manual.
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Anybody with some info on my post?

I just hooked up the 775 last night. The sound is phenomenal and YPAO works extremely well.. Could XT be better? Perhaps, but YPAO did a great job with speakers in locations that are not ideal. My right speaker is in a corner, the left speaker isn't, and the center is in the TV stand that messed with the SQ -- I don't know if it's the reflected sound correction or the YPAO, but whatever it was made a huge difference.

Also, I believe the 775 will correct for 5 frequencies between 30hz and 80hz so YPAO does seem to correct your sub, though people would like to see correction reach down to 20hz. I'm not sure that will make a huge difference and quite honestly I'd be concerned about adding distortion if you are going to push 20hz on a sub that struggles to reach below 25hz.
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I'm installing tne newegg recent deal 775 tonight to run 9.2 over a dead onkyo 818. I expect it to sing well after some ypao work. and I have a lot of klipsch speakers , except subs
You may have trouble running 9.2 with a 7.2 receiver.
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Can I stream FLAC files from an Android phone through the Yamaha app? Connecting the phone directly through USB did not work.
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Also, I believe the 775 will correct for 5 frequencies between 30hz and 80hz so YPAO does seem to correct your sub, though people would like to see correction reach down to 20hz. I'm not sure that will make a huge difference and quite honestly I'd be concerned about adding distortion if you are going to push 20hz on a sub that struggles to reach below 25hz.

The 775 doesn't apply any correction to the sub channel.
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The 775 doesn't apply any correction to the sub channel.
so how does one go about adjusting the sub using the 775
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You can set level and distance for the sub, but there's no EQ. How much that matters depends on your room.
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You can set level and distance for the sub, but there's no EQ. How much that matters depends on your room.

So placement becomes a bigger issue....

I think it's strange that the sub channels are not corrected when there is an EQ already in place that can adjust those frequencies. Is there a technical reason?
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I am considering upgrading to a V775WA from my trusty Onlyo 805.

My main issue is dialogue intelligibility - I am forced to run a phantom center since my Plasma is above a fireplace and there is no space for a center - has anyone experimented with Dialogue Level Adjustment and Adaptive DRC in a Phantom configuration?
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You can set level and distance for the sub, but there's no EQ. How much that matters depends on your room.

So what do the other owners of the 75 series do to set up and tune your sub so it sounds good? To me this seems like a problem that is not hard to correct. It looks like a lot of owners of the 75 series are happy with the receiver they have bought. I'm all EARS!smile.gif
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"You may have trouble running 9.2 with a 7.2 receiver"

I didn't get as far as I wanted to checking things out, but the 775 does have outputs for "presence speajers" its called 7.1 + 2

With the 818 the lowest sub xo was 80. when i'd run xt32, my fronts would be xo'd at 40, which I'd change.
the 775 goes to 40 iirc, for a running start I went with 60 xo.

You have an option to set the FL-FR to 4 ohms

I was able to download the manual (yes I have the disc) over the weekend (on to a computer at another home I stay at) from something like "Yamaha.usa.com" , poke aroiund or such. its huge.

I only got as far as 3.2 last night but tried out the 3D option for some of the sound fields.

I may go with the pre-outs to the UPA7 for LCR and Surrounds.

while it may not do much Sub EQ, I do expect to spend some time with REW and the Inuke6000DSP trying different placements and my freshly built it all by myself SUBMAXIMUS, a LTD02 LARGE FLH for the UXL 18. there is thread in the DIY section.

In the meantime, the 2 BF THTLP's kept things moving.

I have to reconnect the PS3 and try some movies scenes, U-571 first comes to mind.
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So what do the other owners of the 75 series do to set up and tune your sub so it sounds good? To me this seems like a problem that is not hard to correct. It looks like a lot of owners of the 75 series are happy with the receiver they have bought. I'm all EARS!smile.gif

Probably the majority of owners don't optimize their systems beyond running YPAO (and I bet many don't even do that). There are cheap solutions for adding sub EQ. The BFD used to be a popular choice, and now there's miniDSP and others.

I'm still using an older RX-V1800 and that does have sub EQ, but the frequencies can't be set precisely enough (and it only has 2 bands for the sub) so I got a BFD. Today I'd probably go with miniDSP.
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excellent point! so conceivably, I could put my BFD in line for EQ of the fronts.
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The Yamaha EQ should be good enough for the fronts. It's the very low frequencies that the sub produces where you need precisely tunable filter frequencies to match room modes.

Plus I wouldn't want the extra A/D and D/A conversion in the BFD for my fronts, whereas it's fine for subwoofer frequencies.
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So I'll go ahead and pull the trigger. If i have problems i'll come back and ask tons of rookie questions.

One thing in favor of X2000 is that it comes in with 3 yr warranty vs 775 which only comes in with 2 yr warranty. Something to consider before you pull the trigger.
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One thing in favor of X2000 is that it comes in with 3 yr warranty vs 775 which only comes in with 2 yr warranty. Something to consider before you pull the trigger.
Yamaha are more reliable than Denon. And if something is wrong with electronics you'll usually know it within the first few days.
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Is the RSC part of YPAO basically a phase adjustment?
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Is the RSC part of YPAO basically a phase adjustment?

I don't think so, but it's not clear exactly how it's implemented (all they say is it corrects early reflections). It's not adjustable, and they don't even say whether selecting manual EQ mode turns off the RSC part.
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I'm considering picking up a 675. Replacing an Onkyo 616 which I never should have bought since the HDMI board on the 5xx I had before it died and I'm seeing more HDMI problems with the new Onkyo. I did some searching in this thread and didn't see anything that scares me, but does Yamaha exhibit any serious flaws in their HDMI implementation? Or worded differently... will this thing suck as bad as Onkyo has?

And can anyone comment on the sound profile vs Onkyo? My Onks have seemed a bit anemic to me... kinda high and tinny,or bright, as they say.
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I don't think so, but it's not clear exactly how it's implemented (all they say is it corrects early reflections). It's not adjustable, and they don't even say whether selecting manual EQ mode turns off the RSC part.

What else could it be? I have YPAO set on through (which I believe disables the YPAO EQ), and can clearly hear a difference from before I ran it.
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I'm considering picking up a 675. Replacing an Onkyo 616 which I never should have bought since the HDMI board on the 5xx I had before it died and I'm seeing more HDMI problems with the new Onkyo. I did some searching in this thread and didn't see anything that scares me, but does Yamaha exhibit any serious flaws in their HDMI implementation? Or worded differently... will this thing suck as bad as Onkyo has?

And can anyone comment on the sound profile vs Onkyo? My Onks have seemed a bit anemic to me... kinda high and tinny,or bright, as they say.

I think the 775 sounds amazing and Newegg has a great price on this unit. Nice bass smooth mids and highs that sparkle but are not overbearing. Not sure about the 675 but I don't imagine it would be much different. I am really impressed with it so far. Huge difference over my last AV Receiver.

What kind of speakers do you have?
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Yamaha are more reliable than Denon.

Then Yamaha should not have any trouble offering 3 or maybe even 4 yr warranty. Wonder why they don't do that. Hmm.....
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And if something is wrong with electronics you'll usually know it within the first few days.
My Pioneer 1021K died 2 months after the 1 yr warranty ran out. Go figure..... I think its just electronics so anything can happen due to variety of factors including the environment they are kept in. Alternatively one could argue that Kia offers 10yr/100,000 miles warranty so does that make it a better car than Mercedes or BMW which do not offer that?

I have a Yamaha in the basement that runs great but since my Pioneer died, am in the market again so I am looking at both 775 and Denon X2000 closely.
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What else could it be? I have YPAO set on through (which I believe disables the YPAO EQ), and can clearly hear a difference from before I ran it.

If YPAO changed the speaker levels significantly then that would account for a difference even in Through mode. It would be somewhat annoying if you had no way to turn off RSC after running YPAO (except for doing a full reset), but I suppose they might have done that.
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I think the 775 sounds amazing and Newegg has a great price on this unit. Nice bass smooth mids and highs that sparkle but are not overbearing. Not sure about the 675 but I don't imagine it would be much different. I am really impressed with it so far. Huge difference over my last AV Receiver.

What kind of speakers do you have?
Ascend Audio CMT-340 is my front stage with matching surrounds. Thanks for the review. I just bought one on impulse so I'll see how things shake out.
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Ascend Audio CMT-340 is my front stage with matching surrounds. Thanks for the review. I just bought one on impulse so I'll see how things shake out.
I have 3 340s across the front and 170s for surrounds with a 675. Sounds great. Very happy.
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If YPAO changed the speaker levels significantly then that would account for a difference even in Through mode. It would be somewhat annoying if you had no way to turn off RSC after running YPAO (except for doing a full reset), but I suppose they might have done that.

Good point. It was probably my newness to it all that gave me that impression.
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I have 3 340s across the front and 170s for surrounds with a 675. Sounds great. Very happy.
Nice. That's my exact setup as well. Looking forward to getting it set up. I'm hoping the 675 will help fill in the mids a bit and give me a fuller, richer sound. I've always found my current setup to be a bit bright, and even more-so with the new Onkyo.
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