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Lots of good troubleshooting tips are listed in post #3 of this thread to include the one below on connecting an HTPC ...

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Planning to buy a Denon Receiver from the states - living in Canada. Would anyone know if the warranty would still be honored?
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^ Unless things have changed in the last month, the answer is NO. Read the threads about any brand of AVR, and unless you're getting a very cheap one, a warranty is a real good idea these days...especially these days. They ain't makin' 'em better for less money after all... smile.gif

BTW, if you go to a non-big-box retailer, you know who I mean in Canada, the prices are better. This is totally opposite to what most Canadians think re specialized retailers.
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Planning to buy a Denon Receiver from the states - living in Canada. Would anyone know if the warranty would still be honored?
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You've got to buy one of Denon Canada's units in order for the warranty to be valid for repair at a Canadian authorized repair facility, otherwise you'd have to ship it back to the USA.

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Is there any internal setting that would cause this problem?

I have my BD player connected via HDMI to receiver (x3000) and BD player configured to bitstream. However when I select a TrueHD track the receiver displays 'Dolby' and DTS MA receiver displays 'DTS.' I'm trying to remotely diagnose my friends setup so I can't navigate the receiver menus in person. I know who has a Zone 2 configured.

Thoughts?
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It's not the receiver. It has to be the player. Check the "secondary audio" settings.

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It's not the receiver. It has to be the player. Check the "secondary audio" settings.

That's what I keep going back to, the BD player. Just can't figure out what I'm missing in the settings menu. Sony BDPS5100 is the player.
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Hello, I have recently upgraded my speakers and am looking for a new receiver to match them. The speakers are the Pioneer sp-fs52 lr Andrew Jones set along with a BIC F12 sub.

The Denon AVR-X2000 has the features I am looking for but several people (and the first post of this thread) have told me I should be spending twice the price of the receiver on speakers.

Is the AVR-x2000 wasted on the Pioneer Andrew Jones set? Should I look for a cheaper receiver in perhaps another brand? I would like to get 4k up conversion so the x2000 is the cheapest denon option.

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Those are rules of thumb about efficient budget allocation to maximize sound quality given limited resources, but not absolute laws. For example, if you had $1500 to spend you'd almost certainly end with a better sounding system dropping $500 on a receiver and $1000 on speakers than vice versa. The fact of the matter is that speakers are a far greater determinant of sound quality than the difference between a $300 receiver and an $800 receiver.

But it's not like your receiver will blow up your speakers because it is more expensive. If you happen to get a good deal on speakers (eg used or demo models, or speakers that punch above their weight like the Pios) there is no rule that you aren't allowed to get a more expensive receiver if it has some specific features you desire.

That said I would question why you care about 4k upscaling as a key feature?
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Is there a way to save/restore Audyssey configuration on X1000? I'm planning on trying a different audyssey mic positioning (just trying something) and it would be great if I could somehow switch between the configurations.

EDIT: to answer my own question:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1465528/the-official-2013-denon-e-series-x-series-avr-model-owners-thread-faq/2760#post_23775592

That should work with all the Xx000 -models, right? Now I'll just have to search for a ethernet cable that is long enough.
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Yes, the X1000 has the built in SAVE/LOAD feature using Web Control so simply rename the saved file to another name if you want to save multiple configurations.

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Hello, I have recently upgraded my speakers and am looking for a new receiver to match them. The speakers are the Pioneer sp-fs52 lr Andrew Jones set along with a BIC F12 sub.

The Denon AVR-X2000 has the features I am looking for but several people (and the first post of this thread) have told me I should be spending twice the price of the receiver on speakers.

Is the AVR-x2000 wasted on the Pioneer Andrew Jones set? Should I look for a cheaper receiver in perhaps another brand? I would like to get 4k up conversion so the x2000 is the cheapest denon option.

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Ideally you want to buy an AVR that is in your budget and offers the features you require. Unless you sit < 8' from your TV/display or the screen is at least 90" or larger, the 4K upscaling feature is not likely to be of any benefit.

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That's what I keep going back to, the BD player. Just can't figure out what I'm missing in the settings menu. Sony BDPS5100 is the player.

Ensure the BD Audio Mix setting on the Sony BDP is set to OFF.


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That said I would question why you care about 4k upscaling as a key feature?

Thanks so much for the reply. I used the wrong term, I'm really looking for a receiver that has 4k passthrough or up scaling. I'm just trying to be as future proof as possible, I purchased my last receiver just before hdmi became a mainstream standard and I've been annoyed with that ever since.

I would like to keep the receiver for 5-8 years, and it seems 4k will soon be the standard for larger TVs. However I am not sure if any receiver that touts 4k will actually natively support it since the standard isn't much of a standard yet from what I know.

As long as devices have an optical output I could do video directly to a 4k monitor and audio separately, but that is similar to my current situation with my non-hdmi receiver..
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I just received my x4000 to replace my older 2805. After running audyssey it set my crossovers as such:

Fronts 100hz
Center 80hz
Surrounds 60hz
Surround back 80hz

I have klipsch speakers. Rsx4 for fronts and surrounds, rcx4 for center and rw10 sub. Should I leave the settings as is or change them to the "standard" 80hz?
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hi am looking at upgrading from an onkyo 3007. used to have a dennon 3600 which I thought the sound quality great and was better but no hdmi. I notice with the newer denons they don't have the large output transformers like the old 3600 do these make difference or do the later  models have a different technology ie use less current  

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I just received my x4000 to replace my older 2805. After running audyssey it set my crossovers as such:

Fronts 100hz
Center 80hz
Surrounds 60hz
Surround back 80hz

I have klipsch speakers. Rsx4 for fronts and surrounds, rcx4 for center and rw10 sub. Should I leave the settings as is or change them to the "standard" 80hz?

Raise the Surrounds to 80, if you like; but, as a rule of thumb, don't lower any as set by the AVR, after running Audyssey.

The go to the 1st page of this thread & read the Audyssey FAQ, then repeat & apply.

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Streaming Questions
I have used iTunes for a lot of years and most of my music has been ripped to ALAC lossless. For streaming music on the X4000 I can access this on either the Denon's Airplay or my Apple TV, with OK results. However, I can put these files on a USB stick and get great sound. What can I do differently to improve my sound? PS- I am using multiple zones.
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Ensure the BD Audio Mix setting on the Sony BDP is set to OFF.


Doubled and tripled check that as it has been every suggestion I can find.
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hi am looking at upgrading from an onkyo 3007. used to have a dennon 3600 which I thought the sound quality great and was better but no hdmi. I notice with the newer denons they don't have the large output transformers like the old 3600 do these make difference or do the later  models have a different technology ie use less current  

These are "budget" consumer models. For that level of quality you need to go to the Denon 4520CI within the current lineup.

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I can pick up an X2000 open box for $470, or a AVR-2113CI refurb for $350.

Both are from authorized dealers, so I assume the warranty would be 1 year on either model (openbox / refurb).

The only feature I think the 2113 lacks (I am reading the threads correctly) is it cannot play digital sources in a zone 2. My zone 2 is the kitchen where my wife listens to iTunes music / Pandora. Does that mean the 2113 could only play in zone 2 from CD/DVD/MP3 players connected directly to analog inputs?

It seems the AVR-x2000 can play from digital sources, but it must be playing in the primary zone as well.

For $120 price difference, is it worth the X2000?
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Raise the Surrounds to 80, if you like; but, as a rule of thumb, don't lower any as set by the AVR, after running Audyssey.

The go to the 1st page of this thread & read the Audyssey FAQ, then repeat & apply.

Can you be a little more specific as to speaker model numbers, please?

Thanks, I will read it again. My concern is making sure I'm not going to "damage" my speakers. The speaker info that I gave is the specific info. These are older bookshelf speakers.

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POWER HANDLING: 50 w continuous (200 w peak)
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I can pick up an X2000 open box for $470, or a AVR-2113CI refurb for $350.

Both are from authorized dealers, so I assume the warranty would be 1 year on either model (openbox / refurb).

The only feature I think the 2113 lacks (I am reading the threads correctly) is it cannot play digital sources in a zone 2. My zone 2 is the kitchen where my wife listens to iTunes music / Pandora. Does that mean the 2113 could only play in zone 2 from CD/DVD/MP3 players connected directly to analog inputs?

It seems the AVR-x2000 can play from digital sources, but it must be playing in the primary zone as well.

For $120 price difference, is it worth the X2000?

An open box from an authorized dealer will get full 3 year warranty. That tilts the scale towards the X2000. Just make sure all accessories (especially the mic for calibration) are included.

Both receivers can play network audio streams to Zone 2. The digital audio thing refers to *external* sources like a Blu ray player, cable box, Apple TV, etc.

So for example if you were watching a football game from your cable box and wanted to hear the broadcast in all zones, with the X2000 you could turn on All Zone Stereo and you would hear the same audio in the main room and the kitchen. The 2113 would require an additional analog audio cable to facilitate this. But both receivers would allow you to watch the game in the main room while independent steaming Pandora to the kitchen.

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How does one obtain the manufacture date of the X series based off this serial # 3096611798. Thanks.
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^ 309... -> (201)3/09 => September 2013
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first three digits - 309xxx - means year 2013 (the 3) and month September (09).

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That said I would question why you care about 4k upscaling as a key feature?

Thanks so much for the reply. I used the wrong term, I'm really looking for a receiver that has 4k passthrough or up scaling. I'm just trying to be as future proof as possible, I purchased my last receiver just before hdmi became a mainstream standard and I've been annoyed with that ever since.

I would like to keep the receiver for 5-8 years, and it seems 4k will soon be the standard for larger TVs. However I am not sure if any receiver that touts 4k will actually natively support it since the standard isn't much of a standard yet from what I know.

As long as devices have an optical output I could do video directly to a 4k monitor and audio separately, but that is similar to my current situation with my non-hdmi receiver..

To be honest, it's difficult to chase "future proof" in today's rapidly changing market. If you really intend to keep the receiver for that long, I might suggest waiting for a few more months until the new generation of HDMI 2.0 receivers is released. An alternate strategy in the meantime is to make a low $$ commitment purchase and then wait for a year or two to see how HDMI 2.0 shakes out and find the right model for a longer term upgrade, for example buying an inexpensive used or open box HDMI receiver. Then when you upgrade and sell the old one you won't have invested too much money while still enjoying newer features in the meantime.

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Currently downloading new software for my x2000. Does Denon provide notes anywhere?

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