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neutro's Avatar neutro 07:28 AM 03-03-2014
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Originally Posted by William K View Post

It sounds like it might be a lot easier than continuously adding albums to WMP. There is no loss in sound quality right? I usually play FLAC files.

Not sure if you got a reply on this already, but... No, using UPnP/DLNA streaming doesn't induce any sound quality loss as the original file is sent to the media renderer (in our case -- the AVR itself). So when you're selecting a FLAC file, the FLAC file is sent to the AVR. Some DLNA media servers can also do on-the-fly transcoding but this is not required not the norm.

As for using BubbleUPnP -- it can't be a WMP replacement as it only runs on Android. If you want to try other DLNA servers or control points on Windows, there are many good choices. But I like Serviio and foobar2000 myself.

batpig's Avatar batpig 07:47 AM 03-03-2014
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^^ -^^
I must be being extra thick this morning as both of those replies were as clear as mud....

The Denon is currently on about 50. So where do I set it to 0?

Seggers

Sorry, reference is 0 on the relative scale and 80 on the absolute scale.
sat4all's Avatar sat4all 01:02 PM 03-03-2014
Hi guys,

Well, i'm plaining to get one of the 4k sets line up. Will my x2000 do 4k 60hz passthrough?
Selden Ball's Avatar Selden Ball 01:33 PM 03-03-2014
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Originally Posted by sat4all View Post

Hi guys,

Well, i'm plaining to get one of the 4k sets line up. Will my x2000 do 4k 60hz passthrough?

No.

It will do 4k @30Hz, though.

4k@60Hz requires HDMI v2.0, which requires new HDMI chips.
William K's Avatar William K 04:04 PM 03-03-2014
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Originally Posted by neutro View Post

Not sure if you got a reply on this already, but... No, using UPnP/DLNA streaming doesn't induce any sound quality loss as the original file is sent to the media renderer (in our case -- the AVR itself). So when you're selecting a FLAC file, the FLAC file is sent to the AVR. Some DLNA media servers can also do on-the-fly transcoding but this is not required not the norm.

As for using BubbleUPnP -- it can't be a WMP replacement as it only runs on Android. If you want to try other DLNA servers or control points on Windows, there are many good choices. But I like Serviio and foobar2000 myself.
There is a BubbleUpnp download that I installed on my Windows 7laptop and uses "Linn Kinsky" software as an interface. I may be getting a little off topic in this forum but here is the link, look under Download and installation wink.gif
http://www.bubblesoftapps.com/bubbleupnpserver/

I'm going to have a look at Foobar2000 it may be simpler for me, I'll see
jnnt29's Avatar jnnt29 06:11 PM 03-03-2014
I was able to do the firmware update today by running a 50 foot Cat5 wire from my FIOS router directly to my X4000, prior to that my unit would get caught in loop and never update. I have a new issue / question. I have Windows 8.1 and do not see the save / load buttons and I am not able to save the profile. Does anyone have a solution to this? I was unable to find an answer to this in the thread. Thanks JT
jdsmoothie's Avatar jdsmoothie 06:16 PM 03-03-2014
^^
Posts #3-#6 on page 1 of this thread provide some very helpful setup and troubleshooting tips, including post #4 which directly answers your question.
jnnt29's Avatar jnnt29 06:32 PM 03-03-2014
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^^
Posts #3-#6 on page 1 of this thread provide some very helpful setup and troubleshooting tips, including post #4 which directly answers your question.

Thank you very much jdsmoothie I am now able to see the Save-Load buttons on the web app. Now to do the save around the families viewing schedule. Thanks again. JT
jdsmoothie's Avatar jdsmoothie 06:43 PM 03-03-2014
Quite welcome. smile.gif
wkearney99's Avatar wkearney99 06:50 PM 03-03-2014
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I was able to do the firmware update today by running a 50 foot Cat5 wire from my FIOS router directly to my X4000, prior to that my unit would get caught in loop and never update.
Mine's connected through two wired switched before it gets to the FIOS Actiontec router. One switch is in the cabinet with it, the other one's back at the wiring panel and then it connects to the switch. But no powerline or wireless bridging in-between. It updated just fine.
jnnt29's Avatar jnnt29 07:04 PM 03-03-2014
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Mine's connected through two wired switched before it gets to the FIOS Actiontec router. One switch is in the cabinet with it, the other one's back at the wiring panel and then it connects to the switch. But no powerline or wireless bridging in-between. It updated just fine.

That's exactly how mine is setup as well, but it would never update. I'm glad that the direct connection worked and the unit was finally updated. Thanks for the responce
gnphiker's Avatar gnphiker 07:27 PM 03-03-2014
Got my X2000 in today and mostly setup. Sound Quality is noticeably improved over my Sony STR DN1000. I'm hearing much better low level sounds and vastly improved Bass management. Never could get the Sony to sound quite right to my liking.

Outta curiosity what volume level do y'all listen to an action filled DB at? Seems 75 ~ 80 is a good spot. Oddly with my Sony it couldn't go past 45 it seemed.
wkearney99's Avatar wkearney99 08:16 PM 03-03-2014
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2. SAVE/LOAD procedure - Due to the use of browsers other than Internet Explorer for the SAVE/LOAD feature possibly being unstable, Denon removed their use in the Denon "X" series models; however, if you prefer to give them a try, forum member enricoclaudio reported that you can use either Firefox or Safari by entering the following URL into either browser window....http://192.168.X.X/SETUP/OTHERS/f_others.asp replacing the "X's" in the IP address with your own AVR's IP address.

Anyone actually tried saving from an E300? I just did, using Chromium, and the resulting config.dat file is 336k of nothing but zero hex characters!

So I tried from my X3000, this time using IE, and got the same result. The file is nothing but zero hex characters inside. No apparent data!
D Bone's Avatar D Bone 09:03 PM 03-03-2014
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Originally Posted by gnphiker View Post

Got my X2000 in today and mostly setup. Sound Quality is noticeably improved over my Sony STR DN1000. I'm hearing much better low level sounds and vastly improved Bass management. Never could get the Sony to sound quite right to my liking.

Outta curiosity what volume level do y'all listen to an action filled DB at? Seems 75 ~ 80 is a good spot. Oddly with my Sony it couldn't go past 45 it seemed.

Most of us use the relative THX volume (0db is reference level, and anything lower than reference shows as a negative number like -27db for example) I listen to -12db to -15db for blu-rays, and DirecTV is all over the place from -8db to -25db. You can change the setting by going to Settings > Audio > Volume.
gnphiker's Avatar gnphiker 09:51 PM 03-03-2014
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Most of us use the relative THX volume (0db is reference level, and anything lower than reference shows as a negative number like -27db for example) I listen to -12db to -15db for blu-rays, and DirecTV is all over the place from -8db to -25db. You can change the setting by going to Settings > Audio > Volume.

Thanks, I'll give that a geaux tomorrow!
jwells222's Avatar jwells222 11:12 PM 03-03-2014
I have an X4000 receiver, which has Record Out functionality using "Media Player" for composite video/audio out. Is there anyway to directly or indirectly gain Record Out functionality for component video/audio out?
McStyvie's Avatar McStyvie 01:02 AM 03-04-2014
Am really hankering for an x4000 but the CFO has told me I need to wait at least a month.

So, may just be worth waiting for the next models. How does Denon go about pricing the successors? Will it be roughly the same price?

Besides Hdmi 2.0 (which I don't need yet, but who knows in five years maybe?), what else is to be added? Any ideas?

Thanks!

McStyvie
pieandchips's Avatar pieandchips 08:03 AM 03-04-2014
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...CFO...

Like it wink.gif
batpig's Avatar batpig 09:03 AM 03-04-2014
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Originally Posted by McStyvie View Post

Am really hankering for an x4000 but the CFO has told me I need to wait at least a month.

So, may just be worth waiting for the next models. How does Denon go about pricing the successors? Will it be roughly the same price?

Besides Hdmi 2.0 (which I don't need yet, but who knows in five years maybe?), what else is to be added? Any ideas?

Thanks!

McStyvie

Generally yes pricing is relatively stable at the same model tier year to year.

We will know more in a few weeks when Denon announces the new lineup.
batpig's Avatar batpig 09:04 AM 03-04-2014
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Originally Posted by jwells222 View Post

I have an X4000 receiver, which has Record Out functionality using "Media Player" for composite video/audio out. Is there anyway to directly or indirectly gain Record Out functionality for component video/audio out?

The X4000 has component video output but note that there is no cross conversion of other formats to analog output. So it would have to be component in to get component out.
jwells222's Avatar jwells222 10:37 AM 03-04-2014
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

The X4000 has component video output but note that there is no cross conversion of other formats to analog output. So it would have to be component in to get component out.

Is the same true for Rec Out function using Media Player composite output....that the source has to be composite?

Or is the limitation you describe above just for component video out?
philz662's Avatar philz662 12:23 PM 03-04-2014

Anyone having E400 Dolby Digital sound drops running with Directv HR24 DVR ?


jdsmoothie's Avatar jdsmoothie 05:02 PM 03-04-2014
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Originally Posted by wkearney99 View Post

Anyone actually tried saving from an E300? I just did, using Chromium, and the resulting config.dat file is 336k of nothing but zero hex characters!

So I tried from my X3000, this time using IE, and got the same result. The file is nothing but zero hex characters inside. No apparent data!

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1465528/the-official-2013-denon-e-series-x-series-avr-model-owners-thread-faq#user_E9
jdsmoothie's Avatar jdsmoothie 05:10 PM 03-04-2014
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Is the same true for Rec Out function using Media Player composite output....that the source has to be composite?

Or is the limitation you describe above just for component video out?

Both .....


jwells222's Avatar jwells222 08:01 PM 03-04-2014
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Both .....


So, I cannot record onto my VHS player any signals that are coming into the X4000 other than those coming in from a composite source? Is this true of most AV receivers? What about Aventage?
gnphiker's Avatar gnphiker 06:13 AM 03-05-2014
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Originally Posted by D Bone View Post

Most of us use the relative THX volume (0db is reference level, and anything lower than reference shows as a negative number like -27db for example) I listen to -12db to -15db for blu-rays, and DirecTV is all over the place from -8db to -25db. You can change the setting by going to Settings > Audio > Volume.

I like this much better. The Blu-ray's passing DTS HD Master around -15db sound great. Again I'm very impressed with the sound quality. Watched the new A&E show Those Who Kill, DD 5.1 via Comcast and never before have I heard the low level detail that I was getting out of the Sony STR-DN1000.
tezster's Avatar tezster 06:35 AM 03-05-2014
Anyone know if there's a new firmware coming for the X2000? I'm hoping it'll fix my issue with low volume via Network sources without having to send the unit off for repair.
jdsmoothie's Avatar jdsmoothie 06:53 AM 03-05-2014
Yup. Either today or tomorrow. Per post #4 in this thread it will include the fix for the issue with the Netflix DD+ center channel audio issue as well as additional fixes to be posted in post #6 of this thread.
Teremei's Avatar Teremei 09:00 AM 03-05-2014
is it just the x4000 or is anything with that much wattage just gonna run pretty hot? Compared to my 1712 it runs quite a bit hotter, and gets hotter quicker.

Aside from cost, lol. That's about the only thing I can complain about on the x4000. It runs hot and really should have a fan built in. Any hope the next model with xt32 might be built a bit better?
batpig's Avatar batpig 09:45 AM 03-05-2014
It's actually probably the additional processing chips. IIRC the X4000 has an additional DSP chip for audio processing and it also has a lot of video processing (conversion and scaling chips) that the 1712 lacks.

That said I don't think my X4000 runs significantly hotter than any other units I've had in the same spot.
Tags: Denon Avr4310ci Receiver , dolby digital plus , netflix 5.1
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