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Please refer to post 3 of this thread for lots of helpful troubleshooting information. The AVR switching to TV is because you have the HDMI-CEC on the TV (Anynet+, BraviaSync, VierraLink, etc.) set to ON to use the ARC feature. Turn that TV setting to OFF if not using it. See link below from post 3 for more information.

The 'Official' 2013 Denon "E Series" / "X Series" AVR Model Owner's Thread & FAQ

The amp shutting down in protection mode could be the result of a number of issues. See link below from post 3 for more information.

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Thanks for the quick reply. I should have mentioned that the receiver is an AVR-X4000.

The HDMI-CEC setting on the TV is off and always has been.

Section 11 c appears more likely, I've changed the Network IP control to 'Off in Standby' from 'Always On' to see if that makes a difference, if not I guess I might be needing a repaired/replacement HDMI board.

The amp has gone into protection mode even at very low volume, once it was at -60db. I have checked all the speaker cables, it was the first thing I did, but I'll check them more thoroughly to make sure there is no intermittent short.
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The amp has gone into protection mode even at very low volume, once it was at -60db. I have checked all the speaker cables, it was the first thing I did, but I'll check them more thoroughly to make sure there is no intermittent short.
My x4000 started to do that about six months after purchase; it's at Panurgy now for repairs. It would go into protection mode within a few minutes of turning it on; also, it had begun to make a loud POP through the speakers when I turned it off, instead of the usual CLICK.

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The amp has gone into protection mode even at very low volume, once it was at -60db. I have checked all the speaker cables, it was the first thing I did, but I'll check them more thoroughly to make sure there is no intermittent short.
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My x4000 started to do that about six months after purchase; it's at Panurgy now for repairs. It would go into protection mode within a few minutes of turning it on; also, it had begun to make a loud POP through the speakers when I turned it off, instead of the usual CLICK.


As noted in the reported issues in Post 4 of this thread, the powering down issue has been noted by a few X4000 owners but generally presents within the first few weeks of use.

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JD: Called AMAZON, Denon tech report and spoke with you. All same response, soft reset, Multiprocessor reset. I did six of them! No love. I am shipping back to Amazon for replacement. Will miss the little sucker (AVR-X1000).

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The TV source is still being randomly selected, it happened this morning after about 15 minutes, even after changing the Network IP control to 'Off in Standby' from 'Always On' as suggested. Looks like the amp is faulty and should be returned, what a pain.

I guess I'll try the microprocessor reset as a last resort.
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If you have the HDMI-CEC setting on the TV to OFF, you may also want to try setting HDMI Control on the AVR OFF as well.

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HDMI Control on the AVR is also off and always has been.
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Has anyone ever measured the electricity usage for their AVR? My electrical bill has now climbed into the highest-use most-expensive category and so I've been going around with a meter, checking how much wattage everything uses. I was shocked to find that my X2000 uses 200W even when there's nothing playing. (The sleep mode uses almost nothing, at least.) I assume this high use is related to the amplifier design but can anyone confirm this observation?

Assuming this is an Class AB amplifier it's expected to be less efficient than an all-digital Class D. But does it use a lot of power even when there's no signal?
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On average these models shouldn't be drawing more than 90-110W. A 2012 (3313CI) owner posted with a Kill-O-Watt, his unit was drawing about 85W when ON (no source playing) and about 95W at full reference volume so I can't imagine the 2013 models would be much different.

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I am having an issue with my AVR-X2000. I went to watch a movie (Bluray player connected via HDMI) tonight and I was unable to get any sound. I tried a few other discs and I was able to get a TrueHD track to play if I cycled through the audio tracks on the BR player, even through it started on TrueHD. DTS-MA shows up as DTS on the receiver and it does not register as having an LFE track. It also produces no sound. Dolby Digital does not seem to work either as I get no sound for the previews before the movie starts.

This is all very strange because I use the system regularly and I know the setup was working well a week ago. I have not made any changes. It is also very strange because my AVR-1909 recently failed in a similar manner. I was never able to get any sound to come back out of that one. Is this a common issue with denons? Is there a fix?

Edit: I also tried setting my BR player to convert to PCM instead of bitstreaming. This actually made it work, after I switched it back to bitstreaming it failed to produce audio again. This is a workaround, but obviously not ideal. I am beginning to thing the receiver is bad.

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Sounds more like the issue is with the Blu Ray player. Try testing with another BDP.

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So I was researching the 2014 denon models (x2100) but for $300 less I was thinking of getting the x2000. I'm planning on output to my new sony 40es projector for a few years so I won't need to connect my new AV receiver purchase to an UHD tv for a few years. I also don't need output to speakers in another room. I'll be running either 5.1 or 7.1 Martin logan speakers and it'll be primarily playing movies. I'll be connecting ps4, xbox 360, blu-ray.
Any considerations for not getting the 2014 model other than lack of bluetooth and having to buy an adapter for wifi, and of course I won't be "future proofing"?

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I am also still experiencing problems with DD+ content with my AVR-X2000 after the update--similarly to Mr. Bowes. It sounds like digital artifacts in the form of "clicks" and "beeps". These artifacts can be noticeably heard in the front right channel and rear left channel. Can anyone else confirm this problem? It is very frustrating that this problem still remains unsolved. Any insight into this issue from anyone would be greatly appreciated.
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How to use Airplay with Android phone

In an effort to help a forum member resolve an issue with trying to stream Airplay from his Android phone, I finally joined the Airplay ranks, all be it only for a short time. For those of you who have not reviewed the Airplay information I have posted on page 1 in "post #3" of this thread, you can use the doubleTwist app (free) along with the doubleTwist add on MagicPlay app ($2.99). This works great with my Samsung GS3 and X4000.

**WARNING - keep in mind the source device (ie. Android phone) controls the initial AIRPLAY volume on the AVR which will be MAX VOLUME , so make sure to lower the volume before actually beginning to stream.

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So I was researching the 2014 denon models (x2100) but for $300 less I was thinking of getting the x2000. I'm planning on output to my new sony 40es projector for a few years so I won't need to connect my new AV receiver purchase to an UHD tv for a few years. I also don't need output to speakers in another room. I'll be running either 5.1 or 7.1 Martin logan speakers and it'll be primarily playing movies. I'll be connecting ps4, xbox 360, blu-ray.
Any considerations for not getting the 2014 model other than lack of bluetooth and having to buy an adapter for wifi, and of course I won't be "future proofing"?

JDSmoothie I sent you an email about pricing. thanks.
Yup ... responded .... call me .... we're down to only 3 X2000's at clearance pricing.

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I am also still experiencing problems with DD+ content with my AVR-X2000 after the update--similarly to Mr. Bowes. It sounds like digital artifacts in the form of "clicks" and "beeps". These artifacts can be noticeably heard in the front right channel and rear left channel. Can anyone else confirm this problem? It is very frustrating that this problem still remains unsolved. Any insight into this issue from anyone would be greatly appreciated.
Have you tried a soft and/or hard reset? Other X2000 owners have posted the firmware update resolved the Netflix DD+ issue.

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I have tried both and can confirm that the update did significantly improve the audio quality from the center channel. However, digital artifacts in the form of "chirps" and "beeps" remain primarily present in the front right channel and rear left. This problem existed before and after the firmware update. Can anyone else possibly test this and confirm?
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May be an unrelated problem. Do you have a specific Netflix clip that you can recommend others try to test? One which exhibits the problem you are hearing clearly?
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Managed switches most certainly can hand out IP addresses. They're not common in home networks, but there are used ones on ebay that are cheap enough to have in a home network. I have one, as I'm planning on connecting my desktop and server together with two ethernet connections through the managed switch to get 2Gbps transfers.
Yes, in the realm of "all sorts of nonsense is possible" that's true.

More often than not the bottleneck is not the link speed but the host OS and disk subsystem. Link aggregation is quite often a lot more configuration trouble than it's worth... and doesn't solve the perceived problem. But this is a conversation perhaps better left to it's own thread, not here.
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May be an unrelated problem. Do you have a specific Netflix clip that you can recommend others try to test? One which exhibits the problem you are hearing clearly?
I ran into that problem a while ago with a Samsung TV. Turned out their audio decoder did a ridiculously horrible job of handling mid-range audio. Turned out the encoding used for Downton Abbey vocals got all sorts of clipped when played back by the Netflix client on a TivoHD. Go figure. But it gave me ammo to start upgrading another TV to replace that one!
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What are my options for getting a non-HDMI, but wifi connected laptop to stream video content through my X2000 (or for that matter, Panasonic BD player) to my projector? VGA cable is one option, but I'm wondering if there are alternatives. Obviously something like Chromecast, but I don't own one, and trying to to figure out options to get tomorrow's World Cup onto my projector.

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Hi Denon owners. I am new to AV and would Like some advice. I've been given great advice on my novice thread (Novice looking for advice on first home theater)

So here is my question. Many have mentioned and recommend the Denon E300. Right now woot is having a deal on the 1513 for $99.00 with 15 hours left or until sold out. I understand it doesn't have the networking or audyessy, but $99.00 is cheap! What does the community think before I order the E300 for $189?

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What are my options for getting a non-HDMI, but wifi connected laptop to stream video content through my X2000 (or for that matter, Panasonic BD player) to my projector? VGA cable is one option, but I'm wondering if there are alternatives. Obviously something like Chromecast, but I don't own one, and trying to to figure out options to get tomorrow's World Cup onto my projector.
Sounds like morning trip to Best Buy or other local electronics retailer would be a good idea. Get a chromecast from one of them.
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What are my options for getting a non-HDMI, but wifi connected laptop to stream video content through my X2000 (or for that matter, Panasonic BD player) to my projector? VGA cable is one option, but I'm wondering if there are alternatives. Obviously something like Chromecast, but I don't own one, and trying to to figure out options to get tomorrow's World Cup onto my projector.
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Sounds like morning trip to Best Buy or other local electronics retailer would be a good idea. Get a chromecast from one of them.
I don't have many occasions to want to stream content from the laptop, so I'm not sure a Chromecast is a worthwhile investment just for tomorrow's final. Since the laptop and the X2000 are both on the same home network, I was hoping there'd be a way to stream video, much as I can stream audio from my phone to the X2000 via Airplay. I guess that's not the case...too bad.

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...so I'm not sure a Chromecast is a worthwhile investment just for tomorrow's final.
Investment? Srsly? It's $35. Cheaper than a bar tab would certainly be to watch the game at the local pub.
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