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kikkenit2's Avatar kikkenit2 12:07 PM 08-18-2014
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Originally Posted by Neverlies View Post
Is there a way to avoid the persistent HDMI handshake issues? I never had them with my Yamaha.
That is one of the few features that yamaha stands out. Rock solid hdmi interface.
Do you ever have a signal cut out or it just won't start playing?

Jfedorczyk's Avatar Jfedorczyk 12:11 PM 08-18-2014
Hi all,
Trying to understand what output options are available to me with the Denon X4000. I'm going to pickup one of the Lightberry options (link below) I know I don't need an HDMI splitter, as the Denon can do dual output HDMI.

I'm wondering the following though.

Can the AVR send out the same signal from HDMI monitor 1 and a signal from the composite monitor out (media player) at the same time? I can't find anything that confirms or rejects my question.

http://lightberry.eu/
jdsmoothie's Avatar jdsmoothie 12:16 PM 08-18-2014
^^
Only if there is a composite video input as well as there is no HDMI--> analog video down conversion.
Jfedorczyk's Avatar Jfedorczyk 12:39 PM 08-18-2014
rats. Thanks JD!
Dig and Spike's Avatar Dig and Spike 05:21 PM 08-18-2014
I'm need to cool off the AVR E-400. I bought a laptop cooling pad to help cool it. I'm using the front USB to power it but unfortunately it stays on after I shut off the receiver. Is there an option I can select that will supply power to the USB only when it's on? Is this safe for the AVR?
jdsmoothie's Avatar jdsmoothie 05:35 PM 08-18-2014
^^
Set IP Control (p. 120 Owner's manual) to "Off in Standby."
Zzzzz...'s Avatar Zzzzz... 04:51 AM 08-19-2014
About 3 weeks ago I had a problem with my X4000; see my original post which is quoted below. Just now I was watching a dvd and got the black DENON screen again but this time I noticed that the X4000 had changed its input source all by itself! The input that was changed to had nothing connected to it and hence the black DENON screen. The issue of course is why the receiver changed input sources in the first place?

I checked the HDMI cable between the X4000 and my blu-ray player and both ends were securely in place.

Anyone have any further ideas as to what might be going on here?


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Hi,

I just had a bit of strange occurrence with my X4000 - while watching a regular dvd, the image was replaced with a black screen and the word "DENON" in larger letters in the middle. While the image from the film was replaced by the black Denon screen, the dvd keep playing (I could see the time changing on the blu-ray player). I'm not sure if the sound continued to play or not as this occurred during a near silent part of the film. Changing the X4000 input source to another input and then back to the blu-ray player restored normal playback of the film.

Something similar happened a week ago while listening to a CD - I lost sound and got the black Denon screen. The same steps solved the problem.

These are the only times I recall having any problems with my X4000. Is this likely something to be concerned about?

Cheers

jdsmoothie's Avatar jdsmoothie 04:54 AM 08-19-2014
Zzzzz...'s Avatar Zzzzz... 05:31 AM 08-19-2014
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Thanks so much for the reply - I'll give Denon a call tomorrow and see what they say.
cw5billwade's Avatar cw5billwade 09:26 AM 08-19-2014
X4000 owner and I am finally getting around to using zone 2. My current setup is 7.2 in my theater room and I am using an old Pioneer VSX-818 5.1 channelin speaker A for my garage and B for my porch. I would like to make the porchzone 2 off the X4000 using the speaker terminals (on board Amp) so I do nothave to power Pioneer on every time I want to play music outside. I am assumingI can use the pioneer to power my rear speakers but cannot figure out how. Ican always go up the steps to turn the pioneer on and switch to B when I amworking in the garage so I do not care about that.

I am guessing that I would take the rear surround output into my CD or Auxinput on the pioneer and set it to speaker A and then put the surround speakersto the speaker A terminals on my Pioneer. It is the OSD amp assignments I am havingtrouble with. The selection is 5.1 + zone 2 which leaves my rear surround outof the picture. Also volume on the pioneer should I just max it out and let Audysseydo it's thing or put it mid volume

Any help would be great.

I guess the other way is to use the zone 2 pre outs but this still has megoing up the stairs to turn pioneer on.
Bumper's Avatar Bumper 09:27 AM 08-19-2014
Too many posts and a scan turned out nothing yet so here is my question:

Is the rs232 command set for the AVR-X5200W already made available online? Trading in my Onkyo TX-NR5009 for the 5200 from Denon and I have to rewrite my software Driver to Denon.
batpig's Avatar batpig 10:28 AM 08-19-2014
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Originally Posted by Bumper View Post
Too many posts and a scan turned out nothing yet so here is my question:

Is the rs232 command set for the AVR-X5200W already made available online? Trading in my Onkyo TX-NR5009 for the 5200 from Denon and I have to rewrite my software Driver to Denon.
This is the thread for last year's (2013) lower level models. You should probably head to the X4100/X5200/X7200 official thread for future questions: The "Official" 2014 Denon Atmos+XT32 Model Thread (X4100/X5200/X7200)

The RS-232 commands haven't been released yet AFAIK, the models aren't even out yet and the downloads on the UK site (these models aren't even on the US site) don't include serial protocol.

That said, you can go to the Denon website and the protocol download is available for the AVR-4520CI, which will have 95%+ of the commands you need. Basic commands don't really change year to year so the only changes will be minor, maybe a few new codes for some new features (e.g. Atmos surround discrete).
batpig's Avatar batpig 10:31 AM 08-19-2014
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Originally Posted by cw5billwade View Post
X4000 owner and I am finally getting around to using zone 2. My current setup is 7.2 in my theater room and I am using an old Pioneer VSX-818 5.1 channelin speaker A for my garage and B for my porch. I would like to make the porchzone 2 off the X4000 using the speaker terminals (on board Amp) so I do nothave to power Pioneer on every time I want to play music outside. I am assumingI can use the pioneer to power my rear speakers but cannot figure out how. Ican always go up the steps to turn the pioneer on and switch to B when I amworking in the garage so I do not care about that.

I am guessing that I would take the rear surround output into my CD or Auxinput on the pioneer and set it to speaker A and then put the surround speakersto the speaker A terminals on my Pioneer. It is the OSD amp assignments I am havingtrouble with. The selection is 5.1 + zone 2 which leaves my rear surround outof the picture. Also volume on the pioneer should I just max it out and let Audysseydo it's thing or put it mid volume

Any help would be great.

I guess the other way is to use the zone 2 pre outs but this still has megoing up the stairs to turn pioneer on.
If you are using 7 channels (or more) in the main zone you are out of internal amps so you must use external amps to power Zones 2/3. Even if you have an external amp for main zone you can't repurpose the "unused" amps to other zones -- this more advanced custom amp assignment capability is typically restricted to highest level models (e.g. 4520CI), whereas the lower level models are stuck with the menu of static amp assign templates.
cw5billwade's Avatar cw5billwade 10:39 AM 08-19-2014
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If you are using 7 channels (or more) in the main zone you are out of internal amps so you must use external amps to power Zones 2/3. Even if you have an external amp for main zone you can't repurpose the "unused" amps to other zones -- this more advanced custom amp assignment capability is typically restricted to highest level models (e.g. 4520CI), whereas the lower level models are stuck with the menu of static amp assign templates.
So use the zone 2 pre outs into my CD or Aux input on the pioneer and set it tospeaker A and then put porch to the speaker A on my Pioneer. Maybe the Pioneer will wake up with a input but I doubt it.
batpig's Avatar batpig 10:52 AM 08-19-2014
Unless you are using the Pio for something else maybe think about selling it and getting something like the Audiosource AMP 100 which has an auto-on circuit. It's a very popular choice for an inexpensive Zone amp.
Bumper's Avatar Bumper 11:27 AM 08-19-2014
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post
This is the thread for last year's (2013) lower level models. You should probably head to the X4100/X5200/X7200 official thread for future questions: The "Official" 2014 Denon Atmos+XT32 Model Thread (X4100/X5200/X7200)

The RS-232 commands haven't been released yet AFAIK, the models aren't even out yet and the downloads on the UK site (these models aren't even on the US site) don't include serial protocol.

That said, you can go to the Denon website and the protocol download is available for the AVR-4520CI, which will have 95%+ of the commands you need. Basic commands don't really change year to year so the only changes will be minor, maybe a few new codes for some new features (e.g. Atmos surround discrete).
My bad. Too many posts on AVS and I hardly can keep up reading the Atmos thread. I already got the 4520 command table but was wondering about the 5200 because the owners manual states:

RS-232C connector:
Used to connect home automation controller devices fitted with RS-232C connectors. Consult the owner’s manual of the home automation controller for more information about serial control of this unit.

But I can't find that owner's manual.....
Dig and Spike's Avatar Dig and Spike 01:45 PM 08-19-2014
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post
^^
Set IP Control (p. 120 Owner's manual) to "Off in Standby."
Thank you! This is a great and informative forum.
Vinnces's Avatar Vinnces 12:09 AM 08-20-2014
The 5th HDMI Input on my X2000 suddenly stopped working this week. All I get is the Denon background on screen after trying a few different sources plug into the 5th HDMI input. All the other input works fine. Is the 5th HDMI input dead? It happened just pass the 30 days return period to Best Buy for me. A bit annoyed that something brand new developed trouble in a month.
jdsmoothie's Avatar jdsmoothie 12:33 AM 08-20-2014
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Originally Posted by Bumper View Post
My bad. Too many posts on AVS and I hardly can keep up reading the Atmos thread. I already got the 4520 command table but was wondering about the 5200 because the owners manual states:

RS-232C connector:
Used to connect home automation controller devices fitted with RS-232C connectors. Consult the owner’s manual of the home automation controller for more information about serial control of this unit.

But I can't find that owner's manual.....
That quote is of course referring to the "controller's" (eg. Crestron) Owner's manual.
jdsmoothie's Avatar jdsmoothie 12:38 AM 08-20-2014
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The 5th HDMI Input on my X2000 suddenly stopped working this week. All I get is the Denon background on screen after trying a few different sources plug into the 5th HDMI input. All the other input works fine. Is the 5th HDMI input dead? It happened just pass the 30 days return period to Best Buy for me. A bit annoyed that something brand new developed trouble in a month.
Ensure the cable connection to that jack is secure at both ends. If a loose fitting, you may want to consider using a locking HDMI connector (see below).

http://www.amazon.com/Blue-Echo-lock.../dp/B001QV2AKK

Otherwise, give a soft reset (unplug power cord for 10 minutes) a try and if still no joy, a microprocessor reset (post 5). Lastly, you may want to give Best Buy a call as they may still exchange the unit if any are still available.
Vinnces's Avatar Vinnces 01:03 AM 08-20-2014
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post
Ensure the cable connection to that jack is secure at both ends. If a loose fitting, you may want to consider using a locking HDMI connector (see below).

http://www.amazon.com/Blue-Echo-lock.../dp/B001QV2AKK

Otherwise, give a soft reset (unplug power cord for 10 minutes) a try and if still no joy, a microprocessor reset (post 5). Lastly, you may want to give Best Buy a call as they may still exchange the unit if any are still available.
Checked the HDMI cable and both ends look fine. Tried both the soft reset and the microprocessor reset and still no go.

I'm pretty sure this was the last X2000 they had. The sales person had to dig it out from the bottom of a stack of X2100W, for that matter I can't even find the X2000 listed anymore on Best Buy site. I'm still gonna give them a call and see if they can do anything for me. If they are willing I might as well just exchange this for the 2014 model and pay the difference.
jdsmoothie's Avatar jdsmoothie 01:11 AM 08-20-2014
^^
"Look" fine? Did you try jiggling the cable a little in the slot?
Vinnces's Avatar Vinnces 08:22 AM 08-20-2014
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^^
"Look" fine? Did you try jiggling the cable a little in the slot?
Yup, I did.
Tommy Lee 90120 08:43 AM 08-20-2014
I found that 5x factory reset does work well to cure those HDMI blues.
Vinnces's Avatar Vinnces 09:24 AM 08-20-2014
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I found that 5x factory reset does work well to cure those HDMI blues.
Just did the Reset Dance x5 and still no go. T_T

Edit: And of course Best Buy is refusing to do an exchange even for the same unit.
dantr0n's Avatar dantr0n 02:24 PM 08-20-2014
Have an E300 and finally decided to add a sub (NX BAS 500). I am getting no audio output from the sub, just a mild humming sound. Via the LFE/RCA cable test I do hear "static" coming from the sub when rubbing the connector tip (I have tried different cables all with the same result). As the sub was working well when I bought, I would guess the issue lies on some AVR setting or the AVR preout itself. Any thoughts on what may be causing this or is this sub too much for this entry level receiver? I don't have another receiver to test the sub on, but can borrow one if need be.

Sub settings:
"On" (Tried Auto as well but it never flipped on)
Crossover to 120 hz
Volume at noon
Phase 0

AVR settings:
Speakers set to small and 80 hz
Sub is on, set at 120 hz, have tried both LFE and LFE + Main
Have tried various audio modes
JChin's Avatar JChin 03:56 PM 08-20-2014
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Originally Posted by dantr0n View Post
Have an E300 and finally decided to add a sub (NX BAS 500). I am getting no audio output from the sub, just a mild humming sound.
Hi dantr0n, since you added the sub run auto setup.
cablebandit3's Avatar cablebandit3 04:03 PM 08-20-2014
on my x4000 i have to go in the settings and tell it that i have added a sub..or 2
jdsmoothie's Avatar jdsmoothie 04:09 PM 08-20-2014
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Originally Posted by dantr0n View Post
Have an E300 and finally decided to add a sub (NX BAS 500). I am getting no audio output from the sub, just a mild humming sound. Via the LFE/RCA cable test I do hear "static" coming from the sub when rubbing the connector tip (I have tried different cables all with the same result). As the sub was working well when I bought, I would guess the issue lies on some AVR setting or the AVR preout itself. Any thoughts on what may be causing this or is this sub too much for this entry level receiver? I don't have another receiver to test the sub on, but can borrow one if need be.

Sub settings:
"On" (Tried Auto as well but it never flipped on)
Crossover to 120 hz
Volume at noon
Phase 0

AVR settings:
Speakers set to small and 80 hz
Sub is on, set at 120 hz, have tried both LFE and LFE + Main
Have tried various audio modes
Try resetting the microprocessor and then run Audyssey immediately after. If still no joy, exchange the unit.
Teremei's Avatar Teremei 04:12 PM 08-20-2014
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Originally Posted by cablebandit3 View Post
on my x4000 i have to go in the settings and tell it that i have added a sub..or 2
the x4000 has 2 inputs. One labeled sub 1 one labeled sub 2. As long as you hook them up properly then run audyssey it will know you've got 2 subs.

If you don't run audyssey you should, it sounds amazing. And one of the reasons I bought mine.
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