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CostCo only accepts American Express. Otherwise, you have to use cash or Debit.
Actually that may have been reason I used the DEBIT/VISA bank card.
I don't recall for sure.
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COSTCO talked to Pioneer and they claim that the UE22 error code means that the unit is not reading the FW correctly.
Have no idea if that is correct or BS as other info I have seen says the circuit board has gone bad.
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Ok, I remember this now. I updated the FW to my 1522 when I had it. You will need to use a different USB drive. Preferrably something that isn't too large may be a 8 gb or less. Reformat it to Fat32, download the FW update, unzip it and transfer the file to the flash drive.

Thereafter do the update according to your manual. I remember that a lot of people had the same issue, and it was due to being unable to read the USB flash drive.
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I am trying to setup Zone 2 and Zone 3 functionality. Zone2 and Zone3 will be used only listening to ipod/tuner music.
Read the manual and page 35 says "
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Basic MULTI-ZONE setup (ZONE 2)
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Connect a separate amplifier to the AUDIO ZONE 2 OUT jacks on this receiver.
You should have a pair of speakers attached to the sub zone amplifier as shown in the following illustration.
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Question: Do I really need another amplifier to get the zone functionality working?
Don't have a spare amplifier lying around and if I am buying one am I not better off picking up a used receiver from craigs and use that just for tuner and ipod functionality instead of going through the zoned functionality setup?
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I am trying to setup Zone 2 and Zone 3 functionality. Zone2 and Zone3 will be used only listening to ipod/tuner music.
Read the manual and page 35 says "
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Basic MULTI-ZONE setup (ZONE 2)
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Connect a separate amplifier to the AUDIO ZONE 2 OUT jacks on this receiver.
You should have a pair of speakers attached to the sub zone amplifier as shown in the following illustration.
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Question: Do I really need another amplifier to get the zone functionality working?
Don't have a spare amplifier lying around and if I am buying one am I not better off picking up a used receiver from craigs and use that just for tuner and ipod functionality instead of going through the zoned functionality setup?
No, Zone 2 and 3 speakers can be powered from the internal amp.
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It does support ARC, but you first need to go into the setup and enable it. I think there's a specific page in the settings for HDMI stuff. Also make sure you're using the correct HDMI port on the TV itself. On my TV (Panasonic), only one specific HDMI port supports ARC.
No luck here with ARC, either. My TV is Samsung JS9000. I set up the TV's remote to use the 1522 as its output, and that works. The HDMI cable is connected to the designated ARC-capable connector on the TV, which is HDMI4, and to the ARC-capable HDMI output on the 1522, which is HDMI output port 1. I set up for HDMI-CEC and ARC in the 1522 setup menus (I hope I did it right). But there's no sound from ARC.

For those who have ARC working on the 1522, do you have to select the signal using remote button "4", or by some other means? Or does it switch automatically when you change the TV to displaying some signal other than the one from the 1522?

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The HDMI cable is connected to the designated ARC-capable connector on the TV, which is HDMI4, and to the ARC-capable HDMI output on the 1522, which is HDMI output port 1. I set up for HDMI-CEC and ARC in the 1522 setup menus (I hope I did it right). But there's no sound from ARC.
Hi GregLee, while TV app is playing, check if Samsung AnyNet+, ARC or External speaker is enabled.
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Hi GregLee, while TV app is playing, check if Samsung AnyNet+, ARC or External speaker is enabled.
I just did that (not for the first time). On the Samsung menus, AnyNet is enabled, but there is a Device Search function associated that returns the result "no device", meaning, I guess, that the TV looked for connected devices that have HDMI-CEC enabled and couldn't find any. That doesn't make sense to me, since there are actually three such devices connected -- the 1522 AVR, a satellite receiver connected to the AVR, and a BD player connected to the AVR. The TV's remote control works with all three, and that uses HDMI-CEC, I think. (The menu system lets you tell the remote what devices it should control, and I've told it.)

I see nothing specifically mentioning ARC in the Samsung menus. There is an item for directing TV sound to "receiver", which seems promising, but it is greyed out -- I can't select it. There are other references to attaching bluetooth speakers, but I don't have any of those.

I think my TV is screwed up. I don't blame the Pioneer. I can get sound from the TV to the AVR using a digital optical cable, and that's what I'm doing.

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My Samsung would only detect 3 devices. Try disconnecting one and see if it find the receiver then.

Also usually arc is assigned to a specific hdmi port on the tv.
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No, Zone 2 and 3 speakers can be powered from the internal amp.
Thanks Teeitup.

I followed instructions from the manual but somehow both zones are not working.
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Ok, I remember this now. I updated the FW to my 1522 when I had it. You will need to use a different USB drive. Preferrably something that isn't too large may be a 8 gb or less. Reformat it to Fat32, download the FW update, unzip it and transfer the file to the flash drive.

Thereafter do the update according to your manual. I remember that a lot of people had the same issue, and it was due to being unable to read the USB flash drive.

I updated the FW to newest version and got same error.
I took it to a Pioneer service center. They updated the FW again ad it worked for a day or two , then died agai,

They said it would be a $625 circuit/DSP board to repair.
I only paid $599 for it.
What a piece of sht.
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My sc-1522 has audio but no video. Every single feature works except the video output. I switched 5 different brand hdmi cables and 3 different brand displays and there is no video at all. I've turned off video conversion, did a reset and nothing works. I didn't take it to be repaired because I hear repairs are $500+ and since I only paid $499 for it I'm not willing to pay that much. Its weird because it's been working flawlessly for about 2 years, them all of a sudden there was snow in the picture then the picture started flashing and then nothing. Has anyone else had this issue?
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My sc-1522 has audio but no video. Every single feature works except the video output. I switched 5 different brand hdmi cables and 3 different brand displays and there is no video at all. I've turned off video conversion, did a reset and nothing works. I didn't take it to be repaired because I hear repairs are $500+ and since I only paid $499 for it I'm not willing to pay that much. Its weird because it's been working flawlessly for about 2 years, them all of a sudden there was snow in the picture then the picture started flashing and then nothing. Has anyone else had this issue?
Just a few days ago the same thing happened to me. I was watching Netflix on the Xbox One and the picture started going in and out followed by some snow and blank! I could hear the sound but no picture. When I turn it off and wait some time, it will work again, but the problem will repeat itself after a short amount of time.

I am so disappointed, I love the sound of this thing, and it looks beautiful, and I hate to get rid of it but I will never spend so much money to fix it.

So with that said, I will be in the market for a new receiver. Anyone have any suggestions for something with similar sound, but proven quality?
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Just a few days ago the same thing happened to me. I was watching Netflix on the Xbox One and the picture started going in and out followed by some snow and blank! I could hear the sound but no picture. When I turn it off and wait some time, it will work again, but the problem will repeat itself after a short amount of time.

I am so disappointed, I love the sound of this thing, and it looks beautiful, and I hate to get rid of it but I will never spend so much money to fix it.

So with that said, I will be in the market for a new receiver. Anyone have any suggestions for something with similar sound, but proven quality?
I'm glad I sold mine before any issues happened to it. I would recommend Marantz and Denon. I like the XT32 and SubEQ options!
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I'm glad I sold mine before any issues happened to it. I would recommend Marantz and Denon. I like the XT32 and SubEQ options!
Thank you for your suggestions. I am going to contact AMEX and see if they can help with this and start looking for a Denon, the price seems right on some of those.
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Thank you for your suggestions. I am going to contact AMEX and see if they can help with this and start looking for a Denon, the price seems right on some of those.
After I returned my 1522k I picked up a 2013 Denon X4000. I couldn't be more happy. The thing is chugging along great and gone are the days of odd HDMI handshake issues I had with my 1522k. Plus the OSD and feature set are superior on the Denon.

With AVRs I always like to look at the previous model year as you can get steep discounts (ie 1522k at Costco). Therefore I'd second the Denon recommendation from GusGus748s. Denon's 2015-2016 line was announced last month and the X4200W should be on sale towards the end of the year around September. So if you can wait a few months the 2014 (X4100W) lineup should experience a drastic price drop.
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After I returned my 1522k I picked up a 2013 Denon X4000. I couldn't be more happy. The thing is chugging along great and gone are the days of odd HDMI handshake issues I had with my 1522k. Plus the OSD and feature set are superior on the Denon.

With AVRs I always like to look at the previous model year as you can get steep discounts (ie 1522k at Costco). Therefore I'd second the Denon recommendation from GusGus748s. Denon's 2015-2016 line was announced last month and the X4200W should be on sale towards the end of the year around September. So if you can wait a few months the 2014 (X4100W) lineup should experience a drastic price drop.
Good to hear this, I can't wait to get rid of the handshake issues, just waiting for the post holiday 2016 models since I'm mostly looking for immersive format features and options. Most likely Marantz for me.

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After I returned my 1522k I picked up a 2013 Denon X4000. I couldn't be more happy. The thing is chugging along great and gone are the days of odd HDMI handshake issues I had with my 1522k. Plus the OSD and feature set are superior on the Denon.

With AVRs I always like to look at the previous model year as you can get steep discounts (ie 1522k at Costco). Therefore I'd second the Denon recommendation from GusGus748s. Denon's 2015-2016 line was announced last month and the X4200W should be on sale towards the end of the year around September. So if you can wait a few months the 2014 (X4100W) lineup should experience a drastic price drop.
Were you able to return the unit to Costco for a refund or did AmEx take care of refunding your purchase?

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Were you able to return the unit to Costco for a refund or did AmEx take care of refunding your purchase?
I know people on this forum have said that Costco refused a refund, but I had no problem returning my unit to my local Costco warehouse. They refunded my entire purchase price in cash. This was in late 2014, at the time of return my 1522k was 18 months old.

I first contacted their CS concierge team at 1-866-861-0450 to see if the item was covered by their extended warranty program. My thinking being that perhaps they consider AVRs computers. However, after talking with the rep they verified that AVRs are not considered computers for the purpose of their return policy and fall under their general return policy.

As stated in the return policy: "If you are not completely satisfied with your Costco purchase, simply return the product to any Costco warehouse. Please include the product packaging if you have it, although we do not require it for a return to be processed. We also prefer that you provide your original receipt, but if it is not available, we will do our best to process your return without it. To keep our costs low, we must insist that the following be returned within 90 days of purchase for a refund: televisions, projectors, computers, cameras, camcorders, touchscreen tablets, MP3 players and cell phones."

I verified with the rep on the phone that AVRs do not fall into any of the categories listed as a 90 day return (ie. televisions, projectors, computers, cameras, camcorders, touchscreen tablets, MP3 players and cell phones).

I then hung up and called my local Costco warehouse and again verified all the information with a CS rep. I packaged up the AVR and took it to the return counter and they refunded my purchase price.

If you purchased your unit from Costco I would pack it up and take it to a warehouse. If you have problems ask to speak to a manager. In my experience Costco is all about pleasing the customer. Also, bring up their return policy, an AVR doesn't clearly fall into any of the categories listed for 90 day return which indicates it should fall under their general return policy. YMMV, but it's definitely worth trying. After all, Costco's return policy and customer service is why I continue to pay yearly membership dues.

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I know people on this forum have said that Costco refused a refund, but I had no problem returning my unit to my local Costco warehouse. They refunded my entire purchase price in cash. This was in late 2014, at the time of return my 1522k was 18 months old.

I first contacted their CS concierge team at 1-866-861-0450 to see if the item was covered by their extended warranty program. My thinking being that perhaps they consider AVRs computers. However, after talking with the rep they verified that AVRs are not considered computers for the purpose of their return policy and fall under their general return policy.

As stated in the return policy: "If you are not completely satisfied with your Costco purchase, simply return the product to any Costco warehouse. Please include the product packaging if you have it, although we do not require it for a return to be processed. We also prefer that you provide your original receipt, but if it is not available, we will do our best to process your return without it. To keep our costs low, we must insist that the following be returned within 90 days of purchase for a refund: televisions, projectors, computers, cameras, camcorders, touchscreen tablets, MP3 players and cell phones."

I verified with the rep on the phone that AVRs do not fall into any of the categories listed as a 90 day return (ie. televisions, projectors, computers, cameras, camcorders, touchscreen tablets, MP3 players and cell phones).

I then hung up and called my local Costco warehouse and again verified all the information with a CS rep. I packaged up the AVR and took it to the return counter and they refunded my purchase price.

If you purchased your unit from Costco I would pack it up and take it to a warehouse. If you have problems ask to speak to a manager. In my experience Costco is all about pleasing the customer. Also, bring up their return policy, an AVR doesn't clearly fall into any of the categories listed for 90 day return which indicates it should fall under their general return policy. YMMV, but it's definitely worth trying. After all, Costco's return policy and customer service is why I continue to pay yearly membership dues.
Good to know, thanks. I think I got my unit in April of 2013. I believe I still have the receipt too in case something like this happened.
Unfortunately, more & more stores are using the ink/thermal paper where the text fades and comes off easily after about a year or so.

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Good to know, thanks. I think I got my unit in April of 2013. I believe I still have the receipt too in case something like this happened.
Unfortunately, more & more stores are using the ink/thermal paper where the text fades and comes off easily after about a year or so.
Hah, yeah I'm pretty sure mine was barely legible. As long as you have your member card they can look up the purchase without a receipt.
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Add me to the ue22 club.

I'll be returning this to Costco tomorrow.

Scanned receipt way back when to avoid fade issues. Very disappointed.

Ordered a Yamaha rx-a2030 with Discover (3 year warranty plus 1 year Discover) from Amazon (extra 5% cash back this quarter). Honestly I hoped the Pioneer would have lasted me another 5 years. I don't change that often :-(
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It's perhaps telling of current Pioneer products that you guys are experiencing so many issues. I've had handshake issues with my SC-65 since it was new a couple years ago, but pretty infrequently, and likely more to do with other connected gear.


Still though, I'm probably going to give the Marantz family a whirl when I upgrade later this year.

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I just did that (not for the first time). On the Samsung menus, AnyNet is enabled, but there is a Device Search function associated that returns the result "no device", meaning, I guess, that the TV looked for connected devices that have HDMI-CEC enabled and couldn't find any. That doesn't make sense to me, since there are actually three such devices connected -- the 1522 AVR, a satellite receiver connected to the AVR, and a BD player connected to the AVR. The TV's remote control works with all three, and that uses HDMI-CEC, I think. (The menu system lets you tell the remote what devices it should control, and I've told it.)

I see nothing specifically mentioning ARC in the Samsung menus. There is an item for directing TV sound to "receiver", which seems promising, but it is greyed out -- I can't select it. There are other references to attaching bluetooth speakers, but I don't have any of those.

I think my TV is screwed up. I don't blame the Pioneer. I can get sound from the TV to the AVR using a digital optical cable, and that's what I'm doing.

ARC is more trouble than it is worth. Here is how I got mine work:
1. Make sure your TV DOES support ARC. It must be explicitly mentioned but any TV within last 5 years or so should support it.
2. You need to turn on HDMI CEC. On Pioneer, it means both the HDMI CEC control (power on/off) and auto input switch. On TV, make sure similar stuff (name varies between brands) is turned on. Turn off the AVR,
3. Make sure the HDMI connection is on ARC capable port on both end. Typically there is only one HDMI port on the TV is ARC capable. Read the manual. On AVR, it is the HDMI1 out.
4. On TV, make sure you selected external speaker. Once selected, it should auto power on your Pioneer AVR and set input to TV. This is important. You must let TV power on the AVR and auto select TV input to establish ARC link. Manually power on AVR or switch to TV input won't work.


At least this is how I made it work on my LG TV. But, the problem is my LG TV will always switch AVR to TV input whenever it is powered on. It is because the LG TV keeps ARC on all the time once configured. I heard other brands have the same problem. This makes my life very difficult using a Harmony remote and don't use ARC much. So, in the end, I turned it off permanently.

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It's perhaps telling of current Pioneer products that you guys are experiencing so many issues. I've had handshake issues with my SC-65 since it was new a couple years ago, but pretty infrequently, and likely more to do with other connected gear.


Still though, I'm probably going to give the Marantz family a whirl when I upgrade later this year.

My Pioneer Elite VSX-92 also has very flaky HDMI handshake issue from day one. But the AMP itself is rock solid for so many years. SC-1522 is much better on HDMI handshake. But I often lose HDCP from time to time (snow screen).
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My sc-1522 has audio but no video. Every single feature works except the video output. I switched 5 different brand hdmi cables and 3 different brand displays and there is no video at all. I've turned off video conversion, did a reset and nothing works. I didn't take it to be repaired because I hear repairs are $500+ and since I only paid $499 for it I'm not willing to pay that much. Its weird because it's been working flawlessly for about 2 years, them all of a sudden there was snow in the picture then the picture started flashing and then nothing. Has anyone else had this issue?
FWIW, I had the HDMI output board fail on my 1122 and the reasonably nearby Pioneer Repair Center only charged m

e ~100$ for the board and repair. Might be worth having them take a look as it may be less to repair than you think.
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I had my original packing material, pack ins, scanned Costco receipt, and a cell phone video of the UE22 (even flashed that on standby). Had NO issue with return at all.

Real shame. Was a GREAT receiver and i was a real fan of the sound quality and amp section.
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My sc-1522 has audio but no video. Every single feature works except the video output. I switched 5 different brand hdmi cables and 3 different brand displays and there is no video at all. I've turned off video conversion, did a reset and nothing works. I didn't take it to be repaired because I hear repairs are $500+ and since I only paid $499 for it I'm not willing to pay that much. Its weird because it's been working flawlessly for about 2 years, them all of a sudden there was snow in the picture then the picture started flashing and then nothing. Has anyone else had this issue?
Have you tried using the secondary HDMI output? or an analog output?

I know you said "video output" doesn't work -- but not sure if you just tried the HDMI output #1 .
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Just a few days ago the same thing happened to me. I was watching Netflix on the Xbox One and the picture started going in and out followed by some snow and blank! I could hear the sound but no picture. When I turn it off and wait some time, it will work again, but the problem will repeat itself after a short amount of time.

I am so disappointed, I love the sound of this thing, and it looks beautiful, and I hate to get rid of it but I will never spend so much money to fix it.

So with that said, I will be in the market for a new receiver. Anyone have any suggestions for something with similar sound, but proven quality?
Have you tried using the secondary HDMI output? or an analog output?
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Zone 2 vs. B speakers question for you...

I just got some Polk Audio outdoor speakers. Wired 'em up to my "B" ports on my SC-1522-K and they work fine. Downside? I can't change from Speaker A to Speaker B via my phone's iControlAV app. So I was pondering Zone 2. But can I play to Zone 1 + Zone 2 at the same time much like I can play to A + B at the same time? Also, would it "freak" out my receiver if I'm not outputting video to Zone 2 (I assume not) as I only want audio?

Trying to figure out which setup makes more sense. "B" speakers or "Zone 2" speakers.

Can somebody point out any benefits to one versus the other based on my needs? I can't envision wanting two different sources coming from the receiver simultaneously (i.e. TV audio in Zone 1 and Airplay audio in Zone 2), but... if there are no downsides to going the Zone 2 route, I might do it.

Thanks!

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