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Since there isn't one for this particular receiver and Costco just made it a hot ticket item smile.gif I sense there will be a lot of new owners will post or seek information on this receiver.

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Class D3 Amplification
›› Channels: 9.2
›› 720 W Multi ch Simultaneous Drive (1 kHz, THD 1 % @ 8 ohms)
›› 210 W/ch (1 kHz, THD 1 % @ 4 ohms)
›› 170 W/ch (1 kHz, THD 1 % @ 6 ohms)
›› 130 W/ch (1 kHz, THD 0.08 % @ 8 ohms)
Construction Design
›› Advanced Direct Construction
›› Rigid Trans-Stabilizer
›› Insulated Dual Chassis
›› Aluminum Chassis
AUDIO FEATURES
›› THX® Select 2 Plus
›› Dolby® TrueHD/Dolby Pro Logic® IIz/Dolby Digital® Plus
›› DTS-HD® Master Audio, DTS-ES, DTS® Neo:X - 9.1 Channel Surround
›› Digital Core Engine with Texas Instruments Aureus® DSP
›› Hi-bit32 (96kHz) Audio and Jitter reduction
›› 192 kHz/32-bit DAC’s
›› Digital Filter Slow Mode (192kHz)
›› HDMI® Audio Return Channel
›› Pioneer Advanced MCACC® Room Calibration
• 3D Time Axis Measurement
• Polarity Check
• Automatic Crossover Setting
• Reverb Before and After Calibration Results (OSD or AVNavigator)
• Standing Wave Control
›› Pioneer Sound Enhancements
• Full Band Phase Control
• PQLS Bit-stream/Multi-Surround/2 ch Audio
• Jitter Reduction
• Advanced Sound Retriever/Auto Sound Retriever for ARC
• Sound Retriever AIR
• Sound Retriever Link
• Auto Level Control (Multi-Channel)
• Advanced Surround (15+1 Modes)
• Virtual Speakers (Wide/Height/Surround Back)
• Virtual Depth
VIDEO FEATURES
›› 4k2k Passthrough
›› 3D Ready (Blu-ray DiscTM, Broadcast and Games)
›› Deep Color (36-bit) and x.v.Color
›› 1080p/24fps Scaler with Qdeo™
›› Triple HD Noise Reduction
›› Advanced Video Adjustment
›› Stream Smoother/Stream Smoother Link
›› Frame Rate Conversion (60i/p - 24p)
HOME NETWORK FEATURES
›› AirPlay Wireless Audio
›› HTC Connect
›› DLNA Certified® (1.5)
›› Front MHL® Connect
›› Compatible with Windows® 7
›› Music File Playback via LAN/USB (WAV, MP3, WMA, AAC, FLAC)
• 192 kHz/24-Bit Audio playback (WAV, FLAC)
›› SiriusXM® Internet Radio*1
›› Pandora® Internet Radio (Service available in the U.S. only)
›› vTuner® Internet Radio
Convenience Features
›› Digital Audio from iPod®/iPhone®/iPad® via USB*2
›› iControlAV2012 Remote Control App Ready (iOS/Android)*3
• AV Receiver and Blu-ray Disc Player Control from Smartphone
• Sound Explorer (iOS/Android)
›› Air Jam App Ready (iOS/Android)*3 (Optional AS-BT200 adapter required)
• Share music and create playlists via Bluetooth connection
›› Wireless LAN Converter Ready (Optional AS-WL300 required)
›› Auto Power Down
›› Power Save for HDMI Standby Through
›› AM/FM Tuner 63 Presets
›› Sleep Timer
›› Learning Remote Control (Luminous)
›› RF Remote Control (CU-RF100-U) Ready
Custom
›› Zone 2 AV and Zone 3 Analog Audio Out
›› Firmware Update via Internet or USB
›› PC Set-Up with Remote IP Maintenance
›› AVNavigator for easy wiring and setup (PC)
›› Graphic User Interface (GUI) with Album Artwork (HDMI only)
›› Detachable Power Cord
›› RS232
›› IR In x 2, IR Out x 1
›› 12v Trigger x 2
›› 11.2 Channel Preouts
›› Preout Mode
›› Zone Volume, Tone, and Balance

Official Pioneer information page http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Pioneer+Receivers/SC-1522-K

Owner's manual: http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Unassigned-Content/Manuals/SC-1522-K+OPERATING+INSTRUCTIONS

Discussions about Pioneer's auto-calibration MCACC can be found here: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1112470/official-pioneer-mcacc-thread

Latest firmware update link: http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/ephox/StaticFiles/PUSA/Files/SC-1522_65/Ver1_203_084_513_106/AVR_1_203084513160.ZIP

Unzip it on to a USB memory stick and plug into the front USB port. Use the receiver firmware update page to update it from the USB stick. Please note that the latest firmware can not be updated via internet connection on receiver. It must be done through USB stick.

To connect to your wireless network, you will need this Pioneer AS-WL300 adapter http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-AS-WL300-Adapter-Networked-Receivers/dp/B004S0SBYK/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1364515112&sr=1-1

To use Bluetooth connection, you will need this Pioneer AS-BT200 adapter http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-AS-BT200-Bluetooth-Compatible-Products/dp/B004NNULYU/ref=pd_bxgy_e_img_y

Progam your Universal Remote? Here is the official IR HEX codes for this receiver http://www.avsforum.com/t/1465612/official-pioneer-sc-1522-9-2-network-ready-av-receiver-owners-thread#post_23139869

Have a Harmony Remote? Here is how to put those missing IR HEX codes to your remote: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1465612/official-pioneer-sc-1522-9-2-network-ready-av-receiver-owners-thread/180#post_23172047

Information on how to customize receiver bass level after MCACC: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1465612/official-pioneer-sc-1522-9-2-network-ready-av-receiver-owners-thread/300#post_23197878
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My experiment with mobile phone connection (my phone is HTC One X AT&T version with latest JB update, Android) so far:

1. HTC Connect (you need the latest firmware): there is very little information on how this works and how to set it up. It doesn't show up in HTC MediaLink HD device list.

2. MHL: connected the MHL cable provided in the box to my HTX One X and nothing happens. According to the manual it should charge the phone and start MHL operation. My phone does work with my other MHL cable (you need connect a charger to that) that converts to standard HDMI port. Tried the same Pioneer MHL cable to my other phone, Nokia Lumia 920, and it flips through charging and then non-charging quickly. I guess it is due the fact that Lumia 920 does not support MHL at all. So, it appears that the MHL cable is not the problem.


So, that's two out of two mobile connection features not working for me.

Update: I have figured out how HTC connect works:

You need to use the HTC Music app. While playing a song, use three finger swipe up and it will play on the receiver. It plays music only, no video. And won't show up in MediaLink HD device list.
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I bit on this deal as well.

I bought a refurbished Denon 1913 when it was on sale for $280. While it works fine, and I like it, I realized I wanted an AVR with preouts. So I started looking at the Denon 3313ci ($740 refurbished) and the Marantz 5007 ($599 refurbished).

I was about to pull the trigger on the Marantz 5007 when I came across the Pioneer 1522k deal for $599 new.


I did not want to miss out on the deal, so I leaped before I looked, so to speak. I figured I could always return it unopened.

But I am having a heck of a time finding reviews on this Pioneer, and comparisons to other models (like the Denon and Marantz above). Does anyone have any links to any reviews or comparisons of the 1522k?



Based on the MSRP, the Pioneer was the better buy. But tbh, I do not really need 9.2, and some of the extra zone 2/3 features, etc. that the 1522k has. I am most concerned with the quality of the video/audio processors, and the calibration software. I was hoping, based off the msrp, that the 1522k has better processors/dac than the Marantz 5007. But now I wonder if that is true.
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Anyone know if you can use the pre-outs for the front stage(L/C/R & FWs) and then have it power SR/SL and SBs via the internal amps? I'm debating to looking at my local 2 Costcos for the deal on this or going with a Denon 4311 which I know has that capability for more money.

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Anyone know if you can use the pre-outs for the front stage(L/C/R & FWs) and then have it power SR/SL and SBs via the internal amps?
I don't know why not. I'm using the internal amps with these 9 speakers, so I guess you could pre-outs for some of them, instead. There is only one playing mode that uses all those speakers: Neo:X.

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The pre-out may not be controlled by the AVR volume. I have not tried (I have no need for this) so I'm not sure. If it is not controlled via volume control, you will have a tough time to balance the output of different channels.
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Preout are control by volume
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But I am having a heck of a time finding reviews on this Pioneer, and comparisons to other models (like the Denon and Marantz above). Does anyone have any links to any reviews or comparisons of the 1522k?

It is essentially the same thing as Elite SC-65. Try find review on that.
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Based on the MSRP, the Pioneer was the better buy. But tbh, I do not really need 9.2, and some of the extra zone 2/3 features, etc. that the 1522k has. I am most concerned with the quality of the video/audio processors, and the calibration software. I was hoping, based off the msrp, that the 1522k has better processors/dac than the Marantz 5007. But now I wonder if that is true.

I don't use the 9.2 nor zone features either. But the extra amps let you do bi-amp on the fronts if you happen to have a pair of powerful front speakers. So, that is the bonus. The Qdeo video processor is claimed to be top notch but I don't use it anyway.

EDIT: here is a short review (if you can call it a review) I can find http://av-receivers.net/pioneer/pioneer-sc-1522-k-review/
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Network connection options:

SC-1522 comes with only wired Ethernet port. You will have to pay Pioneer $150 for a wifi adapter. Other generic USB wifi adapter will not work because there is no driver support for them. The Pioneer wifi adapter basically operates like those wireless bridges or gaming adapters that converts wireless to Ethernet connection. The advantage is it does not require an AC adapter. It draws power from the USB port on the back panel next to Ethernet port.

However, there are many other options to connect this receiver to your network:

1. Wireless bridge or wireless gaming adapter. They connects to your wifi network and convert it into Ethernet connection. You just need connect the network port of the adapter to the receiver. These thing can be difficult to setup initially (for wireless network settings) and typically require a PC to set it up once.
2. Powerline adapters. You can get a pair of them for about $50 and they are basically plug-n-play. No special configuration required. You connect one adapter to the power plug near your receiver. And connect the other adapter to the power plug near your router. Connect the Ethernet cables on each end and you are done,
3. Moca adapters. You also need a pair of them unless you are a Verizon FIOS customer in which case the Verizon router they gave you already contain Moca transmitter in it. You connect the Moca adapter to your existing coax cable in house on each end and connect the Ethernet cables on each end and you are done.

With all these options, you can also add a cheap network switch (4-port or 8-port) after the adapter so that you can connect multiple devices to it, e.g. your BD player, you game console etc. The connection has enough bandwidth to support those devices. So, you will not need to purchase another $150 adapter next time when you add any device to your HT.

If you like to stream HD video through this connection to other streaming boxes like some BD players, you should consider either powerline adapters or Moca adapters. They both are much more reliable that wireless bridge/gaming adapters.
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It is essentially the same thing as Elite SC-65. Try find review on that.

Thanks.

I saw the other thread and thought the sc-65 and the 1527k were the same, and that the 1522k might be different.

But upon looking more, it seems the 1527k is the canadian version, and the 1522k is the american version?

Either way, I can find a lot more information on the sc-65 than the 1522k.
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There is no mention of 1527 on Pioneer USA site. So, I guess that is Canada model as well.
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IR codes:

Pioneer lists all its receiver's supported IR hex codes here http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Support/Home-Entertainment-Custom-Install/IR+Codes/A+V+Receivers

You will see the SC-1522 is listed on the same column as SC-65.

Harmony Remote's database has very crappy collection of IR commands for SC-1522. I have to use SC-65 codes instead. Even that is not all correct or complete. Someone need to contact Harmony support and give them this list of codes.
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Mind if add this to this thread? http://www.avsforum.com/t/1465618/pioneer-sc-1522-k-and-playstation3-issue
I have yet been able to solve the issue.

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Since there isn't one for this particular receiver and Costco just made it a hot ticket item smile.gif I sense there will be a lot of new owners will post or seek information on this receiver.

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Official Pioneer information page http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Pioneer+Receivers/SC-1522-K

Owner's manual: http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Unassigned-Content/Manuals/SC-1522-K+OPERATING+INSTRUCTIONS

Discussions about Pioneer's auto-calibration MCACC can be found here: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1112470/official-pioneer-mcacc-thread

Latest firmware update link: http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/ephox/StaticFiles/PUSA/Files/SC-1522_65/Ver1_203_084_513_106/AVR_1_203084513160.ZIP

Unzip it on to a USB memory stick and plug into the front USB port. Use the receiver firmware update page to update it from the USB stick. Please note that the latest firmware can not be updated via internet connection on receiver. It must be done through USB stick.

To connect to your wireless network, you will need this Pioneer AS-WL300 adapter http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-AS-WL300-Adapter-Networked-Receivers/dp/B004S0SBYK/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1364515112&sr=1-1

To use Bluetooth connection, you will need this Pioneer AS-BT200 adapter http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-AS-BT200-Bluetooth-Compatible-Products/dp/B004NNULYU/ref=pd_bxgy_e_img_y
Why is it unofficial, when there is no other thread for these?
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Why is it unofficial, when there is no other thread for these?

'cause I don't know if it is ok to call it 'official'.

I will just modify the thread title.
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Mind if add this to this thread? http://www.avsforum.com/t/1465618/pioneer-sc-1522-k-and-playstation3-issue
I have yet been able to solve the issue.

You will have to ask forum mod to merge it into this thread.
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I currently own a harman/kardon AVR 7200, which has just gone blank/dead on me for the third time. First two times, the 'fuse replacement' "trick" worked, but not so far this time, so....

Looks like the 1522 would clearly be an upgrade feature-wise over the 7200, but how about regarding sound quality? The 7200 is a 60+-pound tank that produces full, rich sound; will the 1522 live up to the standard I'm used to in that respect???

Thanks for any and all input! smile.gif
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I currently own a harman/kardon AVR 7200, which has just gone blank/dead on me for the third time. First two times, the 'fuse replacement' "trick" worked, but not so far this time, so....

Looks like the 1522 would clearly be an upgrade feature-wise over the 7200, but how about regarding sound quality? The 7200 is a 60+-pound tank that produces full, rich sound; will the 1522 live up to the standard I'm used to in that respect???

Thanks for any and all input! smile.gif
I had a denon 4520 and and the pioneer sounds much better. the digital amps make a huge difference in the sound. I prefer it. Acutally if you look up the reviews on the pioneer digital recievers you will see they all say the same thing, the sound just opens up.
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The 1522 uses digital amp (which in the past is exclusive to high end Elite models). So it should weight less (and less power on power draw). But it still weights 38.6lb as labeled on the box.

I upgraded from an old trusty Pioneer Elite VSX-92 and this new one sounds better. Two have similar power ratings. The old Elite is a traditional amp and I hate the light flickering every time I power it on.
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What does Pioneer call their equivalent to Audyssey's Dynamic Volume feature for lower volume listening? (or do they not have one?)
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Automatic Level Control or ALC. There is a button on the remote for that.
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Awesome. Thank you.


(When I did a search for it, people were saying that Pioneer did not have it. That did not seem right.)
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It depends model and model years. My old Elite VSX-92 doesn't have it.
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Yes it has that. I use that setting for watching OTA HDTV on my sc-25 but this model has it as well.

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I finally got around to hooking the 1522k up.

WOW.

I do not know why, but I did not expect it to sound so much better than my Denon 1913. I just figured the main difference between AVRs were the various features (things like 9.2 vs 7.1, the different zones, new Dolby protocols, etc.). I did not think it would have such an effect on the sound of music.

On the 1913 I tested my speakers without audyssey and with audyssey. I prefered with audyssey. I then A/B tested the 1913 with audyssey to the 1522k without MCACC. I significantly preferred the 1522k over the 1913. I can only imagine after I start tinkering around with the MCACC settings.

I cannot say if it is the 1522k's better amp, or if it is the processing, or what, but it is noticeably clearer and more defined.



Another bonus that I did not think about was the remote control. I have a Pioneer Kuro 8g HDTV. I do not have a universal remote. The Pioneer 1522k's remote controls my TV just as well as the remote it came with (I can even get into the Kuro's TV settings and adjust them with the 1522k remote). One less remote on the coffee table.


I am officially a fan.
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I finally got around to hooking the 1522k up.

WOW.

I do not know why, but I did not expect it to sound so much better than my Denon 1913. I just figured the main difference between AVRs were the various features (things like 9.2 vs 7.1, the different zones, new Dolby protocols, etc.). I did not think it would have such an effect on the sound of music.

On the 1913 I tested my speakers without audyssey and with audyssey. I prefered with audyssey. I then A/B tested the 1913 with audyssey to the 1522k without MCACC. I significantly preferred the 1522k over the 1913. I can only imagine after I start tinkering around with the MCACC settings.

I cannot say if it is the 1522k's better amp, or if it is the processing, or what, but it is noticeably clearer and more defined.



Another bonus that I did not think about was the remote control. I have a Pioneer Kuro 8g HDTV. I do not have a universal remote. The Pioneer 1522k's remote controls my TV just as well as the remote it came with (I can even get into the Kuro's TV settings and adjust them with the 1522k remote). One less remote on the coffee table.


I am officially a fan.

I returned my 1222 and got the 1522, and I agree that the 1522 sound better for music. Or at least that's what I believe specially for 2.0 stereo with pandora.

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Just picked one up at the Gaithersburg, MD Costco for the deal. It was my last Costco check in the area. I can't beat that deal for running a full 9.1 configuration. Now I have all day to get it set up.
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Just picked one up at the Gaithersburg, MD Costco for the deal. It was my last Costco check in the area. I can't beat that deal for running a full 9.1 configuration. Now I have all day to get it set up.

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Setup was pretty simple although I have no idea if my surround back speakers are working with the various sources. I'm not sure what configurations allow them to be on. I'm watching Frankenweenie which is supposedly DTS 7.1 but does that mean front wide/heights instead of surround backs? I don't know.



My front wides come on Wednesday so we'll see how that affects everything.
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Use PL IIx or Neo: X to convert 5.1 tracks to 7.1 if you have a 7.1 setup. If you have 9.1 setup, PL IIz or Neo:X will convert them to 9.1.

The STANDARD button on the remote lets you cycle through different modes.
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