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View Poll Results: What is your center channel level for movie as compared to your front Left/Right? Thanks for partic
Same as front L/R 11 35.48%
0.5 to 3db higher than front L/R 14 45.16%
3.5 to 6db higher than front L/R 3 9.68%
6.5db or higher than front L/R 0 0%
Lower than fron L/R 3 9.68%
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post #1 of 18 Old 03-28-2013, 05:21 PM - Thread Starter
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What is your center channel level for movie as compared to your front Left/Right? Thanks.
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It is not unusual for the center speaker to be smaller than the mains. After autocalibration, I don't raise or lower any of the channel levels for movies or music.

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Mine is at whatever audyssey sets it at.wink.gif

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Is dialogue a little hard to hear for you guy with center channel level same as main or as is after auto calibration?
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Is dialogue a little hard to hear for you guy with center channel level same as main or as is after auto calibration?
Nope! Everything is very well balanced.

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YPAO wanted to set my center 0.5 db lower than my mains, but I have a hard enough time hearing dialog as-is. So I zeroed it out.

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YPAO wanted to set my center 0.5 db lower than my mains, but I have a hard enough time hearing dialog as-is. So I zeroed it out.

Then Crank it up, Man! biggrin.gif

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After a year of experimenting with different settings (when my old sony receiver was replaced by a new denon), i just turned on the dynamic volume after the last time i recalibrated thru audessy (it gave me the option to turn it on). It made a huge difference. I set it to "evening" as suggested in the audessy site. Dialogue is really clear and much more robust now! This, of course did not ruin the balance among the other speakers. In fact, dynamic volume, lives up to its name-- dynamic. It maintains the harmony along with the rest of my system!
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My center is set at +2.5db and my left and right are both at +3.0db. Those are the trim values chosen by MCACC, my calibration system. I have no trouble hearing dialog, but I have a large center speaker that is essentially a tower lying on its side -- it spits out lots of mid frequencies in various directions. Long ago, with much inferior speakers, I did have to raise the center volume to make dialog easier to hear.

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After a year of experimenting with different settings (when my old sony receiver was replaced by a new denon), i just turned on the dynamic volume after the last time i recalibrated thru audessy (it gave me the option to turn it on). It made a huge difference. I set it to "evening" as suggested in the audessy site. Dialogue is really clear and much more robust now! This, of course did not ruin the balance among the other speakers. In fact, dynamic volume, lives up to its name-- dynamic. It maintains the harmony along with the rest of my system!
Dynamic Volume compresses sound so I never turn it on in my dedicated theater. I do turn it on occationally in my second system in main living room when watching a movie late.
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Dynamic volume is well implemented so the compression does not get in the way of home theater experience. In fact, it complements it better than endlessly tweaking my system. I tried it so many ways (and yes, i was initially concerned about the compression, too) and I find dynamic volume works well for me,.
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Dynamic Volume compresses sound so I never turn it on in my dedicated theater. I do turn it on occationally in my second system in main living room when watching a movie late.

Dynamic Volume rather more "normalizes" the sound as in addition to compressing the louder explosions it will also boost the lower dialogue as beat1 experienced.

Also, for the OP, you can adjust the center speaker volume to suit your preference as it will not effect the EQ settings. Also note, that Audyssey Dyn EQ will boost the bass/surround audio at volume levels below reference (ie. 0db/80) which will sometimes overpower the center channel dialogue for TV/music listening. The bass boost can be reduced by setting the "Reference Level Offset" from 0db to 10db.

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Great explanation. I like the way my surround and bass sound with DynEq, so I just increase my center up 3dbs for better dialog.
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I always bump mine some from where autocal puts it, I always bump the sub some too.... I strill do a lot of 2.0 channel movies and feel the center bump helps there the most and doesn't seem to hurt the real 5.1+ content any.

The sub bump is just cause I love it always. There is the rare title that needs it lowered though, not to often.
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Never, ever, ever use Dynamic Volume...I hate it with a passion. I do, however, really enjoy Dynamic EQ.

My center stays at the same level as my FL/R speakers - 75db. All dialogue is perfectly clear, never overpowered (with correctly mixed soundtracks).

I turn my surrounds down 3db (to 72db) from where Audyssey sets them to compensate for the effects of Dynamic EQ.
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I always bump mine some from where autocal puts it, I always bump the sub some too.... I strill do a lot of 2.0 channel movies and feel the center bump helps there the most and doesn't seem to hurt the real 5.1+ content any.

The sub bump is just cause I love it always. There is the rare title that needs it lowered though, not to often.

I would guess that many prefer to bump the sub 4-5db to suit their preference. smile.gif

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Correct me if I'm wrong but DRC only works for Dolby Codecs and not DTS, right? I have a heck of a time hearing dialogue, let me rephrase that, I can hear it fine but it sounds weak compared to the rest of the soundtrack so I turn my center up about 2.5 to 3dBs higher than the mains to compensate and even then it's a little weak. Also, DRC does seem to correct this when activated but sound effects sound so much cleaner with it off. It's too crunchy and overproduced with DRC activated so I leave it off.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but DRC only works for Dolby Codecs and not DTS, right? I have a heck of a time hearing dialogue, let me rephrase that, I can hear it fine but it sounds weak compared to the rest of the soundtrack so I turn my center up about 2.5 to 3dBs higher than the mains to compensate and even then it's a little weak. Also, DRC does seem to correct this when activated but sound effects sound so much cleaner with it off. It's too crunchy and overproduced with DRC activated so I leave it off.

Quote from the DolbyDigital License Manual..

"DRC: Dynamic range control. A feature of Dolby Digital that allows the
end user to retain or modify the dynamic range of a Dolby Digital
encoded program upon playback. The amount of control is dictated
by encoder parameter settings and decoder user options."


It does not work with DTS.

Additionally note that there are some other dynamic range control schemes available that work with the majority of digital streams in the post-processor mode including Audyssey Dynamic Volume and Dolby Volume. These can be very effective to adjust the volume levels when used with sources such as a cable box or sat tuner for the different levels from channel-to-channel. Also both Audyssey and Dolby have EQ schemes to help balance the audible tonal balance as well...

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