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Connectivity Issues between NR1604 and PS4

I'm currently running my NR1604 amp with a PS3, PS4 and XBOX 360 into a projector system. The PS3 and XBOX have no issues running through the amp to the projector, however the PS4 will not run. I have restarted the PS4 in safe mode and completely restored it to factory settings and still no luck. Sometimes it may make it through the opening scenes of the game, however it then shut downs completely.

This issue doesn't happen when i connect the PS4 directly to a TV however.

Does anybody have any solutions? Most appreciated!
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I'm currently running my NR1604 amp with a PS3, PS4 and XBOX 360 into a projector system. The PS3 and XBOX have no issues running through the amp to the projector, however the PS4 will not run. I have restarted the PS4 in safe mode and completely restored it to factory settings and still no luck. Sometimes it may make it through the opening scenes of the game, however it then shut downs completely.

This issue doesn't happen when i connect the PS4 directly to a TV however.

Does anybody have any solutions? Most appreciated!
Ensure you have the "Deep Color Output" setting on the PS4 disabled.

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How to get my NR1604 to play DLNA-based audio using Track #?

Hello all.

I've had a NR1604 since it came out and am quite happy with it for 2.1 audio & HT performance.

My question is: When playing audio tracks from a DLNA-equipped NAS device, the NR1604 will ONLY play the tracks in alphabetical order - even if I change the names of the tracks (using Windows Explorer).

So, what happens is, when I point to a folder (containing a complete album), the tracks will play:
A, B, C, D (example titles of tracks)
Instead of (what I want): #1 , #2 , #3 , etc. (based on the track order of the original recording).

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Hello all.

I've had a NR1604 since it came out and am quite happy with it for 2.1 audio & HT performance.

My question is: When playing audio tracks from a DLNA-equipped NAS device, the NR1604 will ONLY play the tracks in alphabetical order - even if I change the names of the tracks (using Windows Explorer).

So, what happens is, when I point to a folder (containing a complete album), the tracks will play:
A, B, C, D (example titles of tracks)
Instead of (what I want): #1 , #2 , #3 , etc. (based on the track order of the original recording).

Any ideas?
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It's not about file names, but id3 tags.

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It's not about file names, but id3 tags.
Thanks for the reply. I should have mentioned in the OP that I've checked the metadata for the songs I'm trying to play, and, at least according to JRiver, the track info (ie, Track 1 of 14) is present using the command "Get Info" for all of the tracks I'm trying to play.

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Thanks for the reply. I should have mentioned in the OP that I've checked the metadata for the songs I'm trying to play, and, at least according to JRiver, the track info (ie, Track 1 of 14) is present using the command "Get Info" for all of the tracks I'm trying to play.

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The order in which the tracks/files are displayed depends on the server
specifications. If the tracks/files are not displayed in alphabetical order due to the
server specifications, searching by the first letter may not work properly.

May be tedious for many songs, but you can add the track number in front of the title or use an app like bubbleupnp that supports sorting.

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According to the manual:
The order in which the tracks/files are displayed depends on the server
specifications. If the tracks/files are not displayed in alphabetical order due to the
server specifications, searching by the first letter may not work properly.

May be tedious for many songs, but you can add the track number in front of the title or use an app like bubbleupnp that supports sorting.
That's what's confusing me: I've edited the track names (in Windows Explorer) and added "01 (space)" to the beginning of the first track, "02 (space) in front of the 2nd track, etc., and the Marantz STILL plays the songs alphabetically.

I've got a couple dozen songs on the DLNA server & I've looked at the tracks in other album directories (aside from the 1 directory that's giving me the problem) and the song titles have "01", "02" etc. in front of them. Those other directories play in track number order on the Marantz.

TL;DR version: I have multiple folders of audio contents on a DLNA server and, only the most recently added directory won't play on the Marantz by track number, even when I edit the track title to begin with "01", "02", etc. and the metadata for the tracks shows "Track x of z Tracks".

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That's what's confusing me: I've edited the track names (in Windows Explorer) and added "01 (space)" to the beginning of the first track, "02 (space) in front of the 2nd track, etc., and the Marantz STILL plays the songs alphabetically.

I've got a couple dozen songs on the DLNA server & I've looked at the tracks in other album directories (aside from the 1 directory that's giving me the problem) and the song titles have "01", "02" etc. in front of them. Those other directories play in track number order on the Marantz.

TL;DR version: I have multiple folders of audio contents on a DLNA server and, only the most recently added directory won't play on the Marantz by track number, even when I edit the track title to begin with "01", "02", etc. and the metadata for the tracks shows "Track x of z Tracks".

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Just to be clear you edited track title in the id3? or filename? What is your dlna server and does it have sorting options?

Also, depending on the dlna server, after editing, your may have to re-index the server and restart the receiver.

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Just to be clear you edited track title in the id3? or filename? What is your dlna server and does it have sorting options?

Also, depending on the dlna server, after editing, your may have to re-index the server and restart the receiver.
My DLNA server is a WD MyCloud NAS, attached via Ethernet cable to an Asus Wireless Router. The Marantz NR1604 is connected via a PowerLine adapter to the same router.

So far, I've only edited the Track names by browsing to the target file in the NAS directory structure using Windows Explorer & then manually renaming the title of the track by pre-pending "0x" to the title. I haven't tried to directly edit any of the id3 info.

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My DLNA server is a WD MyCloud NAS, attached via Ethernet cable to an Asus Wireless Router. The Marantz NR1604 is connected via a PowerLine adapter to the same router.

So far, I've only edited the Track names by browsing to the target file in the NAS directory structure using Windows Explorer & then manually renaming the title of the track by pre-pending "0x" to the title. I haven't tried to directly edit any of the id3 info.

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The DLNA media server running on the WD is called Twonky.

You will need to edit the id3 tags and re-index the server.

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Well, I figured out what was causing the "issue" for me - it wasn't an issue at all. Rather, what I figured out was that the Marantz was displaying the audio files EXACTLY the way the display choices are listed.

What I mean is: I've always selected the music I want to listen to by browsing the DLNA server "By Folder". After trying again with a new album I ripped today - which includes the track #'s in the title - and then the Marantz STILL played the tracks in alpha order - I decided to go back and select the tracks "By Artist".

Eureka! Tracks were displayed in track order. Same if I backed out and selected tracks "By Album".

So, in summary, my "Problem" was that I have to select the music I want to hear by Artist, or Album, not "By Folder", and things work.
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At which volume levels it is safe to use NR-1604?
Let's say 90 out of 100. Is it a lot?
Does it safe to run this receiver with such volume level for a long period of time?

I plan to buy one soon and give it a try. Currently I have DENON VR-1912 which is rated 125W at 6Ohm. I a have a big room, but I do not listen to loud music. With AVR-1912 I am listen to CDs at volumes between 30-40 and movies between 40 and 55. So from one hand 70W of NR-1604 sound good enough.
However my speakers Yamaha NS-555 and Yamaha NS-C444 are relatively powerful (100W with max.250W) and I have a 3.1 setup. Will it affect somehow the NR-1604?

I am really new to this topic.

My main drivers to migrate to NR-1604 are the size (fits better to my TV furniture) and the 4k pass-thought.
P.S. I consider to buy a used one and in my country there is currently 1604 on sale, but no 1504.
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Question At which volume levels it is safe to use NR-1604?

At which volume levels it is safe to use NR-1604?
Let's say 90 out of 100. Is it a lot?
Does it safe to run this receiver with such volume level for a long period of time?

I plan to buy one soon and give it a try. Currently I have DENON VR-1912 which is rated 125W at 6Ohm. I a have a big room, but I do not listen to loud music. With AVR-1912 I am listen to CDs at volumes between 30-40 and movies between 40 and 55. So from one hand 70W of NR-1604 sound good enough.
However my speakers Yamaha NS-555 and Yamaha NS-C444 are relatively powerful (100W with max.250W) and I have a 3.1 setup. Will it affect somehow the NR-1604?

I am really new to this topic.

My main drivers to migrate to NR-1604 are the size (fits better to my TV furniture) and the 4k pass-thought.
P.S. I consider to buy a used one and in my country there is currently 1604 on sale, but no 1504.
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At which volume levels it is safe to use NR-1604?
Let's say 90 out of 100. Is it a lot?
Does it safe to run this receiver with such volume level for a long period of time?

I plan to buy one soon and give it a try. Currently I have DENON VR-1912 which is rated 125W at 6Ohm. I a have a big room, but I do not listen to loud music. With AVR-1912 I am listen to CDs at volumes between 30-40 and movies between 40 and 55. So from one hand 70W of NR-1604 sound good enough.
However my speakers Yamaha NS-555 and Yamaha NS-C444 are relatively powerful (100W with max.250W) and I have a 3.1 setup. Will it affect somehow the NR-1604?

I am really new to this topic.

My main drivers to migrate to NR-1604 are the size (fits better to my TV furniture) and the 4k pass-thought.
P.S. I consider to buy a used one and in my country there is currently 1604 on sale, but no 1504.
1. You should never raise the volume level above 80 to ensure there is still sufficient headroom available.
2. The NR1604 will not pass through a 4k/HDCP 2.2 signal that will be sent from the new 4k/UHD Blu Ray players to hit the streets in the next few months.
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I've got my 1604 for about two months, here're some questions/issues:

1. Does marantz use different firmware for different contrary? I bought my 1604 in china and the network media only have internet radio, media server and flickr(which I could get it worked), no pandora, SiriusXM and Spotify. Can I update to US firmware and how?

2. When I connect a macbook air to 1604 via thunderbolt-HDMI adapter, nothing displayed. mac cannot see 1604 but the same setup works well when I connected to TV directly.

3. I have some multichannel flac files on NAS, when I play flac from 1604, there've downmix to two channel. If I play the same file using xbmc, 1604 shows MULTI IN and all channels played well, anyone has the same issue?

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Would any current sub-$300 (US) DACs sound better than what's in the NR1604?

I use my NR1604 almost daily for both HT and 2.1 audio purposes and am completely happy with the sound from my system.

BUT, I've also been reading a lot of articles/reviews about various DACs now available and how they can improve the sound of your overall system.

So, a couple of questions for the forum:

1) I've tried looking this up, but can't find it: what is/are the DAC(s) inside the NR1604?

2) If I use the NR1604 as my only source to output digital and analog audio (ie, BR Disc, CD, Phono, TV audio, NAS -> NR1604 -> Speakers), are there any affordable (max $300 US) DAC's today, in early 2016, that I could plug in to the NR1604 and hear a big difference from what the stock DACs produce?

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I'm hoping this thread is still active enough to help. I just bought a Vizio 4K set and for the life of me I can't get ARC to work at all. I've gone through the posts here and sen tried the Samsung approach. Can anyone please help?
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I use my NR1604 almost daily for both HT and 2.1 audio purposes and am completely happy with the sound from my system.

BUT, I've also been reading a lot of articles/reviews about various DACs now available and how they can improve the sound of your overall system.

So, a couple of questions for the forum:

1) I've tried looking this up, but can't find it: what is/are the DAC(s) inside the NR1604?

2) If I use the NR1604 as my only source to output digital and analog audio (ie, BR Disc, CD, Phono, TV audio, NAS -> NR1604 -> Speakers), are there any affordable (max $300 US) DAC's today, in early 2016, that I could plug in to the NR1604 and hear a big difference from what the stock DACs produce?

1. AFAIK, TI Burr Brown PCM1690.
2. Not that I am aware of.

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I'm hoping this thread is still active enough to help. I just bought a Vizio 4K set and for the life of me I can't get ARC to work at all. I've gone through the posts here and sen tried the Samsung approach. Can anyone please help?
HDMI(ARC) doesn't always work which is why some have to resort to using an optical cable from the TV --> AVR instead. This is often times actually a better configuration for a couple of reasons:
(1) The optical can pass both PCM 2.0 and DD 5.1, whereas many TVs can only pass PCM 2.0 via HDMI(ARC), and (2) When the HDMI(ARC) connection is working correctly, every time you power on the AVR (regardless of the source that was selected prior to placing the AVR in standby), the AVR will switch to the TV Audio source which some find annoying.

On the TV: HDMI-CEC must be enabled and the TV audio must be set to "External speakers"/"Home theater"

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With the above settings made, power off both the TV and AVR. Wait a minute or two. Power on the TV, pause 5 seconds, then power on the AVR. If the HDMI(ARC) connection is successful, the AVR will switch to the TV Audio source a few seconds after being powered on.

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HDMI(ARC) doesn't always work which is why some have to resort to using an optical cable from the TV --> AVR instead. This is often times actually a better configuration for a couple of reasons:
(1) The optical can pass both PCM 2.0 and DD 5.1, whereas many TVs can only pass PCM 2.0 via HDMI(ARC), and (2) When the HDMI(ARC) connection is working correctly, every time you power on the AVR (regardless of the source that was selected prior to placing the AVR in standby), the AVR will switch to the TV Audio source which some find annoying.

On the TV: HDMI-CEC must be enabled and the TV audio must be set to "External speakers"/"Home theater"

On the AVR: HDMI Control must be enabled and the HDMI cable connecting the AVR --> TV must be plugged into the HDMI(ARC) port on the TV (note there is only one HDMI(ARC) port).

With the above settings made, power off both the TV and AVR. Wait a minute or two. Power on the TV, pause 5 seconds, then power on the AVR. If the HDMI(ARC) connection is successful, the AVR will switch to the TV Audio source a few seconds after being powered on.
Thanks for the response! I will try the settings you posted and hope it works. The optical cable is viable, although I'd have to fish it through a wall for about 6 feet. I'm still confused as to how either ARC or optical cable works. If I start Netflix on the Vizio how does the AVR know to stop using audio from my cable to box and start using audio from the Vizio? I get how ARC is supposed to work but if I have to go the optical route I really don't understand how it works.
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Thanks for the response! I will try the settings you posted and hope it works. The optical cable is viable, although I'd have to fish it through a wall for about 6 feet. I'm still confused as to how either ARC or optical cable works. If I start Netflix on the Vizio how does the AVR know to stop using audio from my cable to box and start using audio from the Vizio? I get how ARC is supposed to work but if I have to go the optical route I really don't understand how it works.
The optical input on the AVR defaults to "TV Audio" so simply select the "TV Audio" button on the remote when you want to listen to audio passed from the TV, whether via optical or HDMI(ARC).

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The optical input on the AVR defaults to "TV Audio" so simply select the "TV Audio" button on the remote when you want to listen to audio passed from the TV, whether via optical or HDMI(ARC).
So, whether using HDMI-ARC or optical the switch to TV audio is not automatic and I have to push the TV Audio button?

BTW, thanks for helping me.
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So, whether using HDMI-ARC or optical the switch to TV audio is not automatic and I have to push the TV Audio button?

BTW, thanks for helping me.
Not using the optical, no, but it is when using HDMI(ARC) when first powering on the AVR as I already mentioned.

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Not using the optical, no, but it is when using HDMI(ARC) when first powering on the AVR as I already mentioned.
Please forgive my lack of knowledge. So, if I use optical the switch to TV Audio is not auto and I need to press the button on the remote? If I'm using HDMI-ARC the switch to TV Audio is auto?

It also occurred to me that I may be using an older HDMI cable that is not 2.0 - would that make a difference?

I'm beginning to think it might be easier to run HDMI cables from my 3 sources directly to the TV and not use the AVR for switching.
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Wow, I got it to work! I figured out that I was hiding TV AUDIO in my AVR inputs and once I chose "show" I was able to assign the HDMI-ARC. Thanks for your help.
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I just got the dts:x upgrade on my sr6010 last night and afterwards my settings are the same but my system sounds like crap now(uncalibrated flat eq sound), gonna try and recal it tonight. Anyone else have this issue?
Wrong thread! Please direct your questions on the SR-6010 to the following thread: *Official* Marantz 2015 NR-1506/1606, SR-5010/6010/7010 & AV7702mkII owner's thread

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Wrong thread! Please direct your questions on the SR-6010 to the following thread: *Official* Marantz 2015 NR-1506/1606, SR-5010/6010/7010 & AV7702mkII owner's thread
You are correct. My apologies. Thank you

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Has anyone on this forum successfully gotten a Samsung SUHD TV to work with the Marantz 1604 HDMI-ARC? I've tried everything and every combination of settings on my 1604 and new Samsung JS8500 and noting works in order for me to reliably watch my main source (cable TV) and switch to the Netflix or Amazon apps and get audio from those sources. Out of frustration I added an optical audio cable and set it to TV Audio, but that means having to manually switch sources on the 1604 every time I want to watch Netflix etc, and then manually switch back to Cbl/Sat to watch my main source. Can anyone help?
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Has anyone on this forum successfully gotten a Samsung SUHD TV to work with the Marantz 1604 HDMI-ARC? I've tried everything and every combination of settings on my 1604 and new Samsung JS8500 and noting works in order for me to reliably watch my main source (cable TV) and switch to the Netflix or Amazon apps and get audio from those sources. Out of frustration I added an optical audio cable and set it to TV Audio, but that means having to manually switch sources on the 1604 every time I want to watch Netflix etc, and then manually switch back to Cbl/Sat to watch my main source. Can anyone help?

I have the exact set up and exact problem. Having the same issue.Tried everything. Did you get any further?
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I have the exact set up and exact problem. Having the same issue.Tried everything. Did you get any further?
No, and it really pisses me off. I'm coming from a Vizio 4K TV and it worked perfectly and seamlessly with ARC. I'm going to call Samsung technical support today and demand an answer. If I discover anything by tinkering around with settings or from Samsung I'll report back.
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