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Don't know about the 1604, but for comparison, IIRC, a member used a Kill-O-Watt with the Denon 3311CI (125W) noting that with no audio the consumption was 85W and at reference volume (ie. 0db/80) with a 5.1 setup the consumption only increased to about 95W. I haven't been able to get to a Best Buy to check out the heat output of the new models, but generally if there is any noticeable heat, it is coming from the video card and not from the amps themselves.

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Hello...I am thinking of getting the 1604 but I am confused about the Zone 2 capability. I'd like to use the main zone for movies and music inside but also have 2 speakers outside i'd like to run off of zone 2.

is the zone2 powered on the 1604? if not what exactly does that mean? if its hooked up to the network, will I be able to change source\volume\etc from my iphone/ipad?

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The 1604 is a 7.1 AVR which means if you connect a 5.1 in the main zone then you still have 2CH to power the Zone 2 speakers using the Surr Back speaker posts. Note however, that Zone 2 will only pass on board sources (eg. network audio) and external devices connected with an analog cable. Yes, you will be able to control the Zone 2 speaker volume using either the Marantz remote or iphone/iPad remote app.

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Don't know about the 1604, but for comparison, IIRC, a member used a Kill-O-Watt with the Denon 3311CI (125W) noting that with no audio the consumption was 85W and at reference volume (ie. 0db/80) with a 5.1 setup the consumption only increased to about 95W. I haven't been able to get to a Best Buy to check out the heat output of the new models, but generally if there is any noticeable heat, it is coming from the video card and not from the amps themselves.
I think if you measure total power consumption, as you would with a Kill-A-Watt, you'll include the power going to the video processor that in turn is converted to heat output. Same goes for inefficiencies in the power supply.
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Thanks for the reply jdsmoothie. One question... If I hook up to the 2 surround back does that mean it has to play the same as the main source? I just want my daughter to be able to watch tv while I listen to a different source outside. So zone 2 is not powered right? So is there a little amp I can buy to go along with it?

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If you connect the outdoor speakers to the Surr Back/Amp Assign speaker posts and set AMP ASSIGN to Zone 2, then you can play an independent source (all be it analog only or on board audio only) than what is playing in the main zone. Any speakers connected to speaker posts on an AVR are "powered" as that is what the speaker posts are designed to do. You would only need an external amp for Zone 2 speakers if you decided to have a 7.1 setup in the main zone in which case you could connect the external amp to the Zone 2 pre-outs on the AVR.
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Can anyone comment on how hot it runs?

I just visited a Best Buy/Magnolia store that had one on demo and it was barely luke warm to the touch with no audio playing and would not likely get much warmer with audio playing as generally the majority of the heat is coming from the video card on prior year models.

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I just visited a Best Buy/Magnolia store that had one on demo and it was barely luke warm to the touch with no audio playing and would not likely get much warmer with audio playing as generally the majority of the heat is coming from the video card on prior year models.

Was it in "pure direct" or "source direct" mode by chance? That might turn off the video processor and if that's the primary source of heat could have an impact.
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It was in no mode as there was no audio playing.

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It was in no mode as there was no audio playing.

I actually tried this experiment today as well. You can indeed choose a mode, at least pure direct or source direct, when there is no source being fed. It was not in one of these modes when I walked up and it was still barely warm to the touch. Hard to make a fair comparison to other units because the Marantz gets more space for ventilation above it due to it's small size, while the others are crammed in pretty tight. The Denon's were also fairly cool to the touch, but the plastic cover they have on the top grate also makes it hard to make an apples to apples comparison.
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Not really as the plastic grate only covers the front half of the AVR while any heat (especially on prior year models) is more noticeable on the back half of the AVR. Bottom line is that regardless of whether in use or not, the top of the unit should only be luke warm at best.

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awesome thanks jdsmoothie! I'm going with the 1604 as I believe it will do everything I need and also look good in my setup.

Just one thing about what you said about analog only or on-board audio. This means that there is only an analog input for this right? but would I still be able to play files off my network or iphone and send them to these two speakers? I think the on-board audio would handle this right?

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Can anyone comment on the headphone amp on the nr1604? My place is pretty small so at night we watch tv/movies via headphones while the little one goes to sleep. We currently run our headphones off our Panasonic TC-L37S1 with a y-splitter for my Audio-Technica ATH-M30's and my wife's pair of old Sony's. I would like to step up to a pair of ATH-M50's sometime soon so I wanted to make sure this has the power to drive them and good sound clarity.
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awesome thanks jdsmoothie! I'm going with the 1604 as I believe it will do everything I need and also look good in my setup.

Just one thing about what you said about analog only or on-board audio. This means that there is only an analog input for this right? but would I still be able to play files off my network or iphone and send them to these two speakers? I think the on-board audio would handle this right?

Thanks.

Correct. On board audio would include USB, AM/FM Tuner, internet radio stations, Airplay, Pandora, Spotify and Sirius XM.

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Sorry i'm a beginner in this, i'm just staying to build my home theater. I had old yamaha 6.1 speakers with old avr. Sold my avr and whant to get something better like marantz nr1604 or Onkyo tx-nr626? Really like marantz because of slim, hdmi in the front,airplay, dlna, and looks. Hey need your input, before I make decision I would want to clarify some of things like;
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2. Airplay works only for audio or video too?
3. Would DLNA will play audio file from my external hard drive which its connected to network router?
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1. Yup.
2. Audio only. Apple has not licensed video to AVR mfr's, rather you would need to add an Apple TV for video.
3. AFAIK, yup.

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A new firmware version notice appeared on my 1604 a few days ago: 8300-0384-9543

I haven't noticed anything different as of yet.

I really wish Marantz would publish change logs with these updates!

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A new firmware version notice appeared on my 1604 a few days ago: 8300-0384-9543

I haven't noticed anything different as of yet.

I really wish Marantz would publish change logs with these updates!

Probably parallels the Denon updates for the same model year. Just a guess though.
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Thanks, just bought a silver 1504.

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Know your post was a couple of pages back and a couple of months ago, but I, too, love the esthetics of the Marantz slimline silver units. I live in the USofA, though, and, unfortunately, only the black model is available here (I own last year's NR1603 in black). In reviewing the Marantz UK website, I noticed there were four exterior finishes noted in the General Specifications tab, being gold, silver, black, & gold/silver. It appears that gold (thank goodness) and silver finishes aren't available in the UK. Only the black and gold-silver are denoted as available finishes. I imagine the gold/silver is kind of a light champagne finish, like I've seen on some of the past higher-end Denon and Marantz units. Although the photos of the UK "silver" model appear on the first page of this thread, it seems that it must really be a gold/silver finish according to Marantz's website info. If I really strain, I can maybe see a little gold tone in those photos, but it looks essentially silver to me. If you (or other UK "silver"-model owners) could clarify the actual tone of what I previously thought was a silver finish, I would be very interested in your response(s).

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Thanks, Im thinking between marantz nr1504 or 1603 they are same price at amazon. Here is my dilemma i do have 6 bookshelf speakers Yamaha ns-ac580 6ohms, 45 watts normal, 130 watts maximum, also i have Yamaha sub which is 100 watts. Would it be better to buy a better center speaker and buy 1603 or just go with 1504. Be honest i would be ok with 5.1 because of my room size 10x12. another thing that i would like to have is to send stereo sound to all channels for music prepossess only, wonder if it will be possible on 1504.... Please would like some advice and guidelines...
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If you don't need the analog --> HDMI conversion or component video inputs on the 1603, the newer model 1504 would likely be your better choice. Upgrade the center speaker in either case for a better TV/movie experience. All models feature the "Multi CH Stereo" surround mode to include the 1504.

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Thank you, it makes more clearer picture. I do have few more questions would i be able to connect turn table on 1603? also the pre-out on 1603 how it works? is it only plays whatever in the main zone? Would i be able later on buy good stereo speakers and hook it up with external receiver... or its better off go with 1604? not really big fan of 4k and 3d.
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If the turntable has it's own pre-amp or if you purchase a 3rd party phono pre-amp (~$50) you can connect the turntable to any of the analog audio inputs on the 1603. The pre-outs on the 1603 are for the main zone FL/FR speakers only. And yes, you could buy an external amp to power a set of FL/FR speakers if you felt the 1603 did not have sufficient power for the stereo speakers.

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Thanks, Im thinking between marantz nr1504 or 1603 they are same price at amazon. Here is my dilemma i do have 6 bookshelf speakers Yamaha ns-ac580 6ohms, 45 watts normal, 130 watts maximum, also i have Yamaha sub which is 100 watts. Would it be better to buy a better center speaker and buy 1603 or just go with 1504. Be honest i would be ok with 5.1 because of my room size 10x12. another thing that i would like to have is to send stereo sound to all channels for music prepossess only, wonder if it will be possible on 1504.... Please would like some advice and guidelines...

1603 or 1604 and a new center speaker. You can pick up a nice new 1604 off of ebay for $500.
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1. Yup.
2. Audio only. Apple has not licensed video to AVR mfr's, rather you would need to add an Apple TV for video.
3. AFAIK, yup.

It actually does all these things really nicely. The network radio is also nice.
If you turn up the output for each device in the settings it can actually go pretty loud for a little amp.

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Just one thing about what you said about analog only or on-board audio. This means that there is only an analog input for this right? but would I still be able to play files off my network or iphone and send them to these two speakers? I think the on-board audio would handle this right?

Thanks.

One thing you can do that is cheap (you can do it for any amp actually) is get a USB Bluetooth dongle off of ebay for like $5 and plug that into the USB on the front and run a cord around from the dongle to the CD in and then you can play music from your phone via bluetooth.

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Hi everyone!

I am wanting to get a new home theatre amp, although it will mainly just br used for two channel stereo music and i may upgrade to 5.1 in the future. Anyways... I listen to wide range of music but want an amp that can make music such as pop and rap sound clear and punchy, but also when listening to norah jones, john mayer or pink floyd have it sound delicate and radiant. The point is is this amp (nr1604) a good solution for all genres of music?

My second question is will the marantz sound good when paired with Wharfedale Pacific Evo 2-10 speakers? (These are what i currently own)

Lastly, i have all my music ripped into alac format (through dbpoweramp using accuraterip), will the marantz play my album gaplessly? And if so, from what sources i.e. nas, itunes pc, or ipod with airplay. Furthermore does the sound quality sound as good as a separate CD player component when doing so? (If necessary for quality/gapless i could convert my music to flac if this offered any benefits)

Thanks everyone!!!!! 😄
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Really stupid question but this receiver should be able to drive a 5.1 setup of SVS ultra speakers rather easily wouldn't it?

http://www.svsound.com/speakers/ultra-series

Towers: Nominal impedance: 8 ohms.
Sensitivity: 88 dB (2.83V @ 1 meter full-space, 300-3kHz).
Recommended amplifier power: 20-300 watts.
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Nominal impedance: 8 ohms.
Sensitivity: 87 dB (2.83V @ 1 meter full-space, 300-3kHz).
Recommended amplifier power: 20-150 watts.
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Hi everyone!

I am wanting to get a new home theatre amp, although it will mainly just br used for two channel stereo music and i may upgrade to 5.1 in the future. Anyways... I listen to wide range of music but want an amp that can make music such as pop and rap sound clear and punchy, but also when listening to norah jones, john mayer or pink floyd have it sound delicate and radiant. The point is is this amp (nr1604) a good solution for all genres of music?

My second question is will the marantz sound good when paired with Wharfedale Pacific Evo 2-10 speakers? (These are what i currently own)

Lastly, i have all my music ripped into alac format (through dbpoweramp using accuraterip), will the marantz play my album gaplessly? And if so, from what sources i.e. nas, itunes pc, or ipod with airplay. Furthermore does the sound quality sound as good as a separate CD player component when doing so? (If necessary for quality/gapless i could convert my music to flac if this offered any benefits)

Thanks everyone!!!!! 😄

1. Yup.
2. The Wharfedale are 6-ohm speakers so yup.
3. Nope, AFAIK, you'd have to upgrade to the 5008 for gapless.

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