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I've found that when running the Audyssey setup, is to run the sub louder than what it wants on the screen where you set it's db. It helps to give the sub more oomph.
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I have a 727. Recently, while watching Cable/Uverse, the volume will occasionally fade to nothing. The actual volume indication on the onkyo does not change, just the actual output. It takes approximately 30-45 seconds for the sound to drop.

If I then change channels randomly, I can get the audio back. some channels still have "surround" audio from the left/right, but it's fairly quiet. I have to land on a channel that is not 5.1 or so it seems, to get the audio back, or completely remove power from the AVR.

The Uverse box is plugged in directly to the TV (un65js8500) and audio is returned via ARC to the AVR. I only seem to notice this when watching cable, it hasn't happened during bluray or app viewing on the tv to my knowledge. BluRay is routed directly to the AVR, though.


When this occurs, if I switch to the TV's internal speakers, sound is present.

I'm assuming the AVR is having an issue. Has this been a common issue? I searched the thread but didn't see anyone with quite the same issue.

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I have the TX-NR626 and it seems that zone 2 signal has a high pass crossover on it. I get no low frequencies out of the speakers connected to the powered zone 2.

Does anyone know if there is a way to disable the x-over to get full frequency range? If there isn't a way to disable it on the powered zone 2, does the non-powered zone 2 suffer from that issue?

Any help is appreciated. I have wired my house with several different rooms all making use of zone 2 with a speaker selector and the audio, while clear in mid and highs is lacking any and all low frequencies.

Edit: I hooked up my Marantz 2235B to the non-powered zone 2 output and connected it to a set of speakers and it plays the full frequency range. So, it is just the powered zone 2 output that is not sending low frequencies. Anyone have any idea why? I've gone through every setting and can't find anything showing a high pass x-over on the powered zone 2 output.

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[QUOTE=mp3truck;42627458]I have the TX-NR626 and it seems that zone 2 signal has a high pass crossover on it. I get no low frequencies out of the speakers connected to the powered zone 2.

Does anyone know if there is a way to disable the x-over to get full frequency range? If there isn't a way to disable it on the powered zone 2, does the non-powered zone 2 suffer from that issue?
/QUOTE]

I'm not able to directly answer your Q--sorry. But I have a 626, and use the Android 'Onkyo Remote' app. BTW, to all who have a recr that can use this app, it is KEY to easy control; it is fantastic; faaar better than the remote at least for me, my kids, and my wholly non-techie GF.

Now, in the app, at times on the screen there are 3 or 4 oblong buttons that say things like Game, Music, Stereo, Direct. I have noticed that activating--or NOT--some of these seem to filter lows. Try that.

The unfortunate thing is the 626 doesn't allow Zone 2 tone control (right?), which would've been an easy way to at least boost lows/cut highs.

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I have the TX-NR626 and it seems that zone 2 signal has a high pass crossover on it. I get no low frequencies out of the speakers connected to the powered zone 2.

Does anyone know if there is a way to disable the x-over to get full frequency range? If there isn't a way to disable it on the powered zone 2, does the non-powered zone 2 suffer from that issue?
/QUOTE]

I'm not able to directly answer your Q--sorry. But I have a 626, and use the Android 'Onkyo Remote' app. BTW, to all who have a recr that can use this app, it is KEY to easy control; it is fantastic; faaar better than the remote at least for me, my kids, and my wholly non-techie GF.

Now, in the app, at times on the screen there are 3 or 4 oblong buttons that say things like Game, Music, Stereo, Direct. I have noticed that activating--or NOT--some of these seem to filter lows. Try that.

The unfortunate thing is the 626 doesn't allow Zone 2 tone control (right?), which would've been an easy way to at least boost lows/cut highs.

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Thanks for the reply. A good thought. Unfortunately, in zone 2 from the phone app, the "Listening Mode" four buttons are not there. Also, the Audio button at the bottom right is grayed out when on zone 2.

I do agree that the Onkyo phone app is very nice, though. I listen to zone 2 on my patio and in garage where I've wired speakers to the powered zone 2 and being able to control volume and source from those locations on my phone is great.

Really wish I could get an answer as to why I get no low end frequencies out of powered zone 2. I asked on the Onkyo forum but so far have had no response.
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Strange is that I can't get DVDs or BDs with properly flagged tracks to decode. The receiver info shows the incoming audio as Dolby surround but will only playback direct 2.0 or I have to manually engage DPLII which is a different decoding system. Why is there no auto-sensing as there is for DD, DTS, and their HD variants?


Also, is "Stereo" mode direct 2.0 with sub enhancement? This is what I would use on my old amp for all 2.0 and 1.0 movies for the most part and wanted to make sure the signal wasn't being tampered with. It's silly there isn't a method to do this in the movies tab.
--Is there something for 1.0 encoded tracks to also run the sub?


Onkyo has never responded on my support forum posts, nor will they ever answer the phone during business hours.
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Hey guys, new user here, but recently getting into 4K stuff, so bear with me...

I have the Onkyo TX-NR727, and a Samsung UN55HU7250 Curved 55-Inch 4K Ultra HD 120Hz Smart LED TV. I recently bought a Roku 4 and tried to connect to the Roku to the Onkyo, but it told me it couldn't output 4K because the device it is connected to could not accept the signal. After some extensive google searches I still can't figure out if the 727 can actually accept a native 4K HDCP 2.2 signal. All of the feature pages and the user manual just say "4K passthrough" but even when I configure that setting there's no signal from the Roku. I can't figure out what the HDMI specs are on the receiver / which port to use for the Roku.

The only way I could get the Roku to output 4K was by directly connecting to my Samsung's HDMI 3 port, then using an optical out cable from the TV to the Onkyo for surround sound. It's a workaround but not ideal.

Do you guys have any experience / advice with this stuff? I also bought the Samsung SEK3500U One Connect Evolution Kit to upgrade my TV. Hoping that helps some of my issues, but if the 727 doesn't actually handle HDCP 2.2 then it's a moot purchase.
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Hey guys, new user here, but recently getting into 4K stuff, so bear with me...

I have the Onkyo TX-NR727, and a Samsung UN55HU7250 Curved 55-Inch 4K Ultra HD 120Hz Smart LED TV. I recently bought a Roku 4 and tried to connect to the Roku to the Onkyo, but it told me it couldn't output 4K because the device it is connected to could not accept the signal. After some extensive google searches I still can't figure out if the 727 can actually accept a native 4K HDCP 2.2 signal. All of the feature pages and the user manual just say "4K passthrough" but even when I configure that setting there's no signal from the Roku. I can't figure out what the HDMI specs are on the receiver / which port to use for the Roku.

The only way I could get the Roku to output 4K was by directly connecting to my Samsung's HDMI 3 port, then using an optical out cable from the TV to the Onkyo for surround sound. It's a workaround but not ideal.

Do you guys have any experience / advice with this stuff? I also bought the Samsung SEK3500U One Connect Evolution Kit to upgrade my TV. Hoping that helps some of my issues, but if the 727 doesn't actually handle HDCP 2.2 then it's a moot purchase.
4K passthrough means exactly that it passes the data through without any modification.
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4K passthrough means exactly that it passes the data through without any modification.
I understand that, but according to the Roku if I try to select either 4K or 4K (10-bit) while connected to the 727 it gives me the following:

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This HDMI input does not support HDCP 2.2 which is required to play 4K UHD content. If you have a 4K UHD TV, connect your player to the HDMI inputs labeled HDCP 2.2 and select 4K UHD to try again.
I've tried connecting the Roku to every HDMI input labeled 4K on the 727, and have output the 727 to both my Samsung's HDMI 3 (MHL) and HDMI 4 (ARC). The signal just doesn't come through. But when the Roku is plugged directly into the Samsung the signal shows up just fine.

Thus, it doesn't seem like the 727 is capable of handling a true 4K HDCP 2.2 signal.
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All the receivers in this thread came out before HDCP 2.2 and that also means they won't do 4k for the new 4k blu-ray players either.
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All the receivers in this thread came out before HDCP 2.2 and that also means they won't do 4k for the new 4k blu-ray players either.
Damn. Is there some sort of upgrade I could do to the 727, or do I have to sell it and invest in a newer model?
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I have a TX-NR626, and am having a weird problem with the zone2 stuff.

I use the android app to listen to pandora on my patio (zone2). However, sometimes, I like to listen to it indoors as well. If I turn the receiver on, set it to net, and try to start listening, it's basically stuck on zone2, and I can't seem to get it to turn on the main zone speakers.

I suspect there is some combination of buttons and switches I need to press to get this to work. Right now, the only way I've figured out to undo this, is to pull the power cord and then start it back up. There must be a better way. I've even tried setting zone2 to off, and all I get from that is no sound anywhere.

(I also checked, my receiver is not one of the units affected by the sound/network bug, so, it's not that.)

Any ideas or help would be greatly appreciated.
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I have a TX-NR626, and am having a weird problem with the zone2 stuff.

I use the android app to listen to pandora on my patio (zone2). However, sometimes, I like to listen to it indoors as well. If I turn the receiver on, set it to net, and try to start listening, it's basically stuck on zone2, and I can't seem to get it to turn on the main zone speakers.

I suspect there is some combination of buttons and switches I need to press to get this to work. Right now, the only way I've figured out to undo this, is to pull the power cord and then start it back up. There must be a better way. I've even tried setting zone2 to off, and all I get from that is no sound anywhere.

(I also checked, my receiver is not one of the units affected by the sound/network bug, so, it's not that.)

Any ideas or help would be greatly appreciated.
From the remote app on your phone, click the power button in the upper left corner. This should bring up the menu that shows Main and Zone2. The power indicator for Zone2 should be illuminated blue because it is on when you're on the patio. Press that to turn off zone 2 which should gray it. Press the grayed out power button for Main which should turn on the Main zone and illuminate it blue.
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I've tried Zone 2 on my 626 for decoded surround titles from a separate amp since it's the only way to input extra analog ins--but it does seem that they are permanently filtered.

Odd thing is, the longer I have the amp running the better the decoding gets. When I run the old circulating noise pattern from Video Essentials, the center bleed to the rears in both PL2 and Neo 6 is fairly obvious....but not after running the unit for some time. What in the world...

I figured out most everything else, but it certainly isn't user friendly. It took quite some time to realize that to run 2.0 or 1.0 with the woofer activated you have to use Stereo mode under the music setting. There is also very little auto detection of codecs and it will not process surround encoded tracks despite actually picking up the flag and displaying Dolby Surround!
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Hey guys, new user here, but recently getting into 4K stuff, so bear with me...

I have the Onkyo TX-NR727, and a Samsung UN55HU7250 Curved 55-Inch 4K Ultra HD 120Hz Smart LED TV. I recently bought a Roku 4 and tried to connect to the Roku to the Onkyo, but it told me it couldn't output 4K because the device it is connected to could not accept the signal. After some extensive google searches I still can't figure out if the 727 can actually accept a native 4K HDCP 2.2 signal. All of the feature pages and the user manual just say "4K passthrough" but even when I configure that setting there's no signal from the Roku. I can't figure out what the HDMI specs are on the receiver / which port to use for the Roku.

The only way I could get the Roku to output 4K was by directly connecting to my Samsung's HDMI 3 port, then using an optical out cable from the TV to the Onkyo for surround sound. It's a workaround but not ideal.

Do you guys have any experience / advice with this stuff? I also bought the Samsung SEK3500U One Connect Evolution Kit to upgrade my TV. Hoping that helps some of my issues, but if the 727 doesn't actually handle HDCP 2.2 then it's a moot purchase.
Same problem and temporary solution (HDMI ARC from TV to Onkyo and like you know arc or optical means no dolby THRUE HD 7.1 or DTS HD 7.1 but only dolby digital ex 7.1) with brand new PlayStation 4 pro. How is it solved at that moment for you?

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All the receivers in this thread came out before HDCP 2.2 and that also means they won't do 4k for the new 4k blu-ray players either.
So we need to upgrade to one from like 636 or later?
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Ok, I'm having an issue with my 727, trying to update via USB to the newest firmware. I put the firmware update on the USB and insert it into the SB port on the receiver.

I go into the update and it keeps saying that I have the latest, but I can see by the number that I do not have the latest.


How do I force it to check the USB port for the firmware update?


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Hi all,

i have a onkyo tx nr626 its 2 years old. Bought it online second hand and got this receiver now 1 month. But i have a problem. The receiver became verry hot so i put 3 slow running fans on it. (sucks hot air out of it) the receiver is now cool.
But i have a problem with sound.

I turn on my receiver and i see HDMI Startup.
Then i see television but without sound... if i wait i have sound for a few seconds and then no sound.
If i wait some minutes sounds comes back and stay on the whole time until the next day same problem.
I noticed when i disconnect 220V AC power sounds came back and no problems that day.

I also noticed when i dont have sound i cannot go with the remote app into the receiver (no connection) but when i power down and power up again everything works also the remote app.

Can someone point me to a right direction? is it hardware? i can solder myself.
Or is it some strange hdmi issue? <-- doesnt explain the remote app issue but who knows).

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Hi all,

i have a onkyo tx nr626 its 2 years old. Bought it online second hand and got this receiver now 1 month. But i have a problem. The receiver became verry hot so i put 3 slow running fans on it. (sucks hot air out of it) the receiver is now cool.
But i have a problem with sound.

I turn on my receiver and i see HDMI Startup.
Then i see television but without sound... if i wait i have sound for a few seconds and then no sound.
If i wait some minutes sounds comes back and stay on the whole time until the next day same problem.
I noticed when i disconnect 220V AC power sounds came back and no problems that day.

I also noticed when i dont have sound i cannot go with the remote app into the receiver (no connection) but when i power down and power up again everything works also the remote app.

Can someone point me to a right direction? is it hardware? i can solder myself.
Or is it some strange hdmi issue? <-- doesnt explain the remote app issue but who knows).

Regards,

Tim
I don't have your issue. But I lost sound one day and I discovered my 626 TV1 HDMI port had "given up the ghost". I had to move the TV's HDMI cable to the 626 TV2 port in order to get a picture.

I had an older Onkyo thalt also had an HDMI port failure.

If you do a google, you will find that the Onkyo has a long history of failures.

My PERSONAL opinion is that you need to replace your receiver.

I will replace mine when I can afford it.

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Hi all,

i have a onkyo tx nr626 its 2 years old. Bought it online second hand and got this receiver now 1 month.
I had a similar issue. There is a way to reset the microprocessor which fixed mine (I had to hold a button down while turning it on or something). People have said the audio will probably drop out again. Onkyo has known issues like this and they have a website set up which allows repairs outside the warranty period. So, they are trying to make up for the faulty components. However, I don't know exactly what is covered or whether your second-hand 626 will be covered.
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thx all for your reply.

Contacted onkyo and they say my receiver doesnt match the global fix issue. They say mine is already fixed. So going to open the receiver myself and going to look an measure some bad capicitors? well you know what i mean
If i find something i let you all know.

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Hi all,

i have a onkyo tx nr626 its 2 years old. Bought it online second hand and got this receiver now 1 month. But i have a problem. The receiver became verry hot so i put 3 slow running fans on it. (sucks hot air out of it) the receiver is now cool.
But i have a problem with sound.

I turn on my receiver and i see HDMI Startup.
Then i see television but without sound... if i wait i have sound for a few seconds and then no sound.
If i wait some minutes sounds comes back and stay on the whole time until the next day same problem.
I noticed when i disconnect 220V AC power sounds came back and no problems that day.

I also noticed when i dont have sound i cannot go with the remote app into the receiver (no connection) but when i power down and power up again everything works also the remote app.

Can someone point me to a right direction? is it hardware? i can solder myself.
Or is it some strange hdmi issue? &lt;-- doesnt explain the remote app issue but who knows).

Regards,

Tim
I have the same receiver and it needs to reboot (unplug from power) completely to reestablish network connection and allow the app to work. For me, the unit sometimes reports it is connected to the network even though it does not behave so, and thus the app cannot find the unit on the network. Completely Powering off and on again (by unplugging from wall receptacle) has always cleared this issue for me.

Your issue sounds like hardware problem, and I suspect due to overheating from failure of the internal fan before you purchased it.

Cost of diagnosing and repair likely to be higher than replacing it with something better.

I run an external fan on my unit also to keep things happy inside the case.

Generally, after 3 years with this unit, I would say the hdmi startup issue comes and goes, without changing any settings, but the manual does provide some advice on it.

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I finally bit the bullet and got the Onkyo 626 from A4L (great company by the way). I'm just having a hard time nailing down the setup to get it at the basic level of my old Sony de675. I ran the Audyssey process twice with the supplied antenna-moving around my space. After some tweaking it has my levels at:
80hz for main 5 channels
120hz sub crossover
-6db for L, R and C
-5db for sub
-10 db for LS and RS

To me something is still off and I think I might play with the volume levels a bit. Should they all be so low? Particularly since I have to nearly go to over halfway on the main volume level to start getting any sound. The sub crossover should be right, and once I realized to take all the dynamic EQ and audyssey post processing off many things improved. Even on my older speakers (Klipsch Kg .5, KV-1, SWV) I can hear the difference in clarity and reproduction.

Here are my few questions:
Is there no auto format detecting like on my old Sony amp? It seems I have to manually reset for every different source or incoming audio from the same source. My old Sony would detect everything-even ProLogic flags properly without me having to do anything. The 626 does not and I have to manually induce Stereo mode to have the sub running in any 1.0 or 2.0 track-nor does it detect any ProLogic flags. I've been able to set all 5.1 and HD codecs to automatically straight decode with no processing but no such luck on anything else.

I guess there's no ProLogic included anymore and this is a big issue since I still listen to a lot of these old matrixed audio tracks. DPL2 seems more suited for gimmickery and Neo 6 does a much better job. Once I get my levels etc. fixed I think it will work better than it does now but it still isn't perfect nor does it decode properly into LCRS.

Is "Stereo" mode direct 2.0 with sub enhancement? This is what I would use on my old amp for all 2.0 and 1.0 movies for the most part and wanted to make sure the signal wasn't being tampered with. It's silly there isn't a method to do this in the movies tab.
--Is there something for 1.0 encoded tracks to also run the sub?

Any help or advice would be most welcome. I've been reading many threads on here to try and do this the right way including the Audyssey FAQ.
There is an auto set up for audessy. It works fairly well, I don't recall having to move the microphone around the room, I think it should remain in one place during the whole process (put it near the middle of the room). I dont use the neo, but that is personal preference. Hope this helps.
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I'm using a Chromecast. When the source is stereo, the sub is not on. When the source is 5.1, the sub works. What does my setting need to be in order to play 5.1 when detected, and play 2.1 when the source is stereo?
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I'm using a Chromecast. When the source is stereo, the sub is not on. When the source is 5.1, the sub works. What does my setting need to be in order to play 5.1 when detected, and play 2.1 when the source is stereo?
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From page 55 of your owners manual.
Make sure your front speakers are NOT
Set to "Full Band". From there chose a
Crossover as noted above depending
On what speakers you have."

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Good luck n let us know if it works!
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My TX-NR626 receiver has recently started to make random 'pop' sounds through all the speakers. If I pause whatever listening source I have playing it is a very clear series of pops that appear to be random. Any thoughts on what might be going on here? I have owned the 626 for 3 years now and this is something new that just started this week.
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I also noticed another new change in the behavior of my Onkyo TX-NR626. About 2 weeks ago when i use the 30 second skip, replay, FF or RR on my Directv DVR it causes the Onkyo to cycle the sound settings which results in two distinct clicks in the receiver. This is real annoying and can't be very good for the receiver to do so many times while watching shows.

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You might want to try and unplug it and let it sit for a while and see if it clears up.

Doesn't sound good, that's for sure.
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You might want to try and unplug it and let it sit for a while and see if it clears up.

Doesn't sound good, that's for sure.
Thanks, for the reply, I did try that but it seemed to have no effect. Getting worried the receiver is on its way out.......
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My TX-NR626 receiver has recently started to make random 'pop' sounds through all the speakers. If I pause whatever listening source I have playing it is a very clear series of pops that appear to be random.
I've noticed this recently too. I don't think it's a problem that the 626 is creating though. I've noticed that it only happens on my DirecTV Genie DVR. It doesn't happen when I pause the Chromecast or things on the PS4. My DVR shows a last update date of 3/7 which seems about when it started so I think we're going to end up waiting for the next DirecTV software update.

I've unplugged my 626 to reset it, but it didn't affect it.

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I've noticed this recently too. I don't think it's a problem that the 626 is creating though. I've noticed that it only happens on my DirecTV Genie DVR. It doesn't happen when I pause the Chromecast or things on the PS4. My DVR shows a last update date of 3/7 which seems about when it started so I think we're going to end up waiting for the next DirecTV software update.

I've unplugged my 626 to reset it, but it didn't affect it.

-Seth
Very interesting Seth, yes I think it started around 3/7 so maybe the receiver is ok. I don't have anything other then my Genie I can test with so thanks for posting your findings!
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