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Guys What would you recommend AVR for watching movies? and why?


- - -for 5.1

• YAMAHA RX-V375 + polk TL 1600
• YAMAHA YHT196 + polk TL 1600
• DENON AVR 1513 + lord 5.1 pure accoustics
• DENON DHT1312xp ( denon set)

- - - for 7.1 / 7.2
• ONKYO TX-NR616 + boston xs 5.1
• DENON AVR 2113 + boston xs 5.1
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Why are you limiting your choices? You also have Marantz, Harman/Kardon...which I would take over Onkyo and Yamaha.
So for myself, that would leave Denon, Marantz, HK.
All three are quality brands although I think HK has more robust amps. And imo, all three brands I find to be easier on the ears than Onkyo or Yamaha, which can be a bit harsh in the HF, at least if paired with the wrong speakers.
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So you would take Harman Kardon as good amps? I already checked the HK AVR158 but its already discontinued already and yesterday I saw the HK AVR70 is it good? Last two years ago I bought a gift for my father the Denon AVR1312 with Lord 5.1 pure acoustics and the sound are pretty amazing, now I'm buying for myself and will put on my living room.

I need your opinion. Thanks
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Most certainly. With Denon, HK, Marantz its all good. I've owned the HK 635, and now the 3600, plus a HK3390 stereo receiver.
In the past, HK receiver's amp sections were rated lower than others...meaning an 80w HK would be as or more powerful than 120w receiver of another brand. Although that may not be true with the newer models...they could only be rated equal to other brands.
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I have never liked Yamaha in the past, but thier new Aventage receivers are excellent.

I actually prefer them over the Denon's and Marantz receivers at the same price points. The amplifiers in the Yamaha Aventage (and other models) are down to 2ohm stable.

We just did an A/B test between a Denon AVR-2113CI & the New Yamaha RX-A730 and the difference was really interesting. I would normally be the last person on Earth to romance about the difference in sound quality between receivers. They really are all kind of similar. However, the Denon sounded quite heavy in comparison to the Yamaha. The Yamaha came across much lighter and effortless all the way through low to high volumes.

EDIT: Speakers used in the A/B test were JBL Synthesis LS40, BG RADIA Z1, & Phase Technology PC-0.5 . Sound improved, in our opinion, between all 3 models on the Yamaha as opposed to the Denon.

Yamaha RX-A730: http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/aventage/rx-a730_black_u/?mode=model

Yamaha receivers that our clients have owned previously are all seemingly very very durable. One client in particular purchased one about 6 years ago online (it retailed for $1,000 - can't remember the model) and it feels and works like new. We have had some failures from Marantz and Denon, and especially Onkyo, which is what caused me to maybe look at Yamaha. I came away really impressed.

I like Marantz product over the Denon and Yamaha over Marantz receivers. I just brought into our showroom a Marantz AV-7701 Pre-Amp and it is gloriously beautiful. http://us.marantz.com/us/Products/Pages/ProductDetails.aspx?CatId=AVSeparates&SubCatId=0&ProductId=AV7701

Receiver brands get hot and cold over the years. Before, I would have never looked at Yamaha and stayed with Denon/Marantz. In 2013, I really really like what Yamaha is doing. 2014???? We'll see!

Yamaha Aventage Pros...

- Durability History
- Sound Quality
- iPad APP and Networking is top shelf above anyone else's currently on the market.
- Ease of use and setup.

Cons...

- I would say the A/V Inputs are average on the RX-A730. The 830 is probably worth it as a step up if you need RS232 and other video scaling options.
- Setup MUST be done via App or On-screen GUI. There are really no menu functions available to you from on the face of the actual unit.
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Yeah, for me it's always been Denon vs Yamaha.

If I didn't buy Denon, I would buy Yamaha, and vice versa. wink.gif
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Yeah, for me it's always been Denon vs Yamaha.

If I didn't buy Denon, I would buy Yamaha, and vice versa. wink.gif

From many years ago, I found Yamaha to produce a somewhat harsh sound in the HF, when matched to JBLs.
Since, I've used Marantz, HK, Parasound AVRs, pre-amp, power amps and all produced a smoother HF than the Yamaha.
But I have not heard the new Aventage Yamaha, so maybe they are better.
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From many years ago, I found Yamaha to produce a somewhat harsh sound in the HF, when matched to JBLs.
Since, I've used Marantz, HK, Parasound AVRs, pre-amp, power amps and all produced a smoother HF than the Yamaha.
But I have not heard the new Aventage Yamaha, so maybe they are better.

I completely understand!

The past 5-6 years Yamaha, I think, really forgot what they should be about and designed a lot of receivers with the likes of Best Buy - entry level - in mind. Our Yamaha rep absolutely said as much and agreed verbatim. This past group of Aventage and the models before them really represented an attitude change within Yamaha which was welcomed.

I can tell you that the sound out of the entry level Aventage RX-A730 is not harsh at all. I'm excited for the 2030 & 3030's to come out. I was impressed at how much "oomph" the Yamaha was able to give the JBL LS40. I would say that, for those speakers, in a lot of rooms or lower levels, the Aventage 730 would be plenty, but perhaps the new 1030 would offer a little more for them to draw from.

Side Note: My experience with the LS40 has been nothing short of "Wow!". It is an incredible speaker for multi-channel audio and packs an enormous sound. For a $699 "bookshelf" (I use "" because it's almost as tall as an LCR) it is on my short list of best values in speakers. You could put this thing in a cabinet and fill an absolutely HUGE room with crystal clear vocals, midbass, and sound effects at loud volumes. All from a little Yamaha Aventage RX-A730.
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So guys what do you think the Yamaha RX-V375 + polk audio TL1600? is it worth than the Denon that I'ved posted in the forum? I need your opinion on this if should I buy this, thanks
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is your only choice for speakers little satellites like the TL1600 and Boston XS? Larger speakers will make more of a difference than switching receiver brands.

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How about onkyo 818? Not sure if that's a good Avr for movies.

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The NR818 is $800, would be a waste of money to pair with little satellite speakers.

All the receivers listed will be fine for home theater, its the little speakers that are the problem.

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The NR818 is $800, would be a waste of money to pair with little satellite speakers.

All the receivers listed will be fine for home theater, its the little speakers that are the problem.
aw i see. btw is 818 is better than the new denon x models? except for x4000.

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aw i see. btw is 818 is better than the new denon x models? except for x4000.

I would not go with Onkyo. The past few years we have had a lot of issues to the point where, after 7 years with it, dropped the line completely. The amps failing and blowing out repeatedly. And, especially the HDMI section of the video boards. The slightest power irregularity and we've had nightmares with it.
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So guys what do you think the Yamaha RX-V375 + polk audio TL1600? is it worth than the Denon that I'ved posted in the forum? I need your opinion on this if should I buy this, thanks

With those speakers and with receivers at that price point, either would be fine. Pick whichever one you like, even if it's just based on looks.
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aw i see. btw is 818 is better than the new denon x models? except for x4000.

I don't know anything about the new Denon models yet.

I just know there is no reason to spend $800 on a receiver to pair with Polk TL1600's that have a 2.5" woofer.

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Do I'm doing correctly? This is the way guessing per categories..

BATCH A
Denon AVR1312 - Denon AVR 1513 - Onkyo | TX-SR313 ?
BATCH B
Denon AVR 1713 - Onkyo ?
BATCH C
Denon AVR 2113 - Onkyo TX NR616 - Onkyo TX NR626 ?
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You could put this thing in a cabinet and fill an absolutely HUGE room with crystal clear vocals, midbass, and sound effects at loud volumes. All from a little Yamaha Aventage RX-A730.

even if I tandem this receiver with the boston acoustic xs 5.1?
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