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post #4051 of 4115 Old 01-06-2017, 03:02 AM
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Try this if your cxa5000 is connected to a TV which is in turn connected to an antenna: disconnect the antenna and check if the hum is gone.

I had the same root cause with the A3030 when I upgraded the external amp. Two didn't have hum but the third amp (class A balanced type) had serious hum, and was traced to the antenna.

Hope this suggestion works.


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I only have BD/DVD and Netflix, so no cable TV involved here. When I first got the CX-A5000 I did not have much hum when the processor was ON. Neither at first when switched off for the night. But after 10min or so, it would start to hum and turn into a loud GROWL that could be heard from another room in the morning. This I solved with XLR cables. Before Moving to XLR, I tried other RCA. Still humming issue, but there was a difference in the level of hum. So strange.

I am thinking there might be something with output/input sensitivity?

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I looked up your amp and could not find a Nuforce MCA-200 but did find the MCA-20. If you have the MCA-20 it is a class D amp? Which I have no experience with as all the amps I have ran from my CX have been class A/B. I believe the best advice is the one given regarding a possible issue with an antenna connected to the CX as it may be causing the hum. I read these threads and others pretty consistently and your the first I have heard who has had incompatibility with the CX and external amps BUT all the other posters on this and other forums I have read run either Class A/B amps or Tube amplification.
Ah yes, sorry. MCA-20. It is a Class D, PWM amp. My Sunfire is a A/B that sorta behaves like a Class H or somethign like it.

As I do not have antenna/TV, that is not the cause.

I am suspecting that NuForce is contaminating my powersupply as I also get the eletrical buzzing in my center and front left/right speakers, which are connected to the Sunfire whenever the NuForce is ON. :-(
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First time post - I have searched and read nearly this entire thread and cannot find the answer.


I haveLG OLED tv hooked to receiver through ARC (HDMI out 1). ARC works fine. How do I get video to HDMI out 2 for a projector?
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First time post - I have searched and read nearly this entire thread and cannot find the answer.


I haveLG OLED tv hooked to receiver through ARC (HDMI out 1). ARC works fine. How do I get video to HDMI out 2 for a projector?
Sorry. I have a RX-A3030
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Look at page 61 of the manual. Press HDMI OUT on the remote until you see HDMI 1+2. I do this with my RX-1030.

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Thanks for the response.


I have tried the HDMI out button set to 1+2 and 2 only and still no video. It simply may not be possible for HDMI 1 out to display video to HDMI 2 out.


The only way HDMI 2 out will display video is when the signal is input through one of the HDMI in ports.
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Thanks for the response.


I have tried the HDMI out button set to 1+2 and 2 only and still no video. It simply may not be possible for HDMI 1 out to display video to HDMI 2 out.


The only way HDMI 2 out will display video is when the signal is input through one of the HDMI in ports.
What happens if you turn ARC off?

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HDMI 1 and 2 are outputs, not inputs. ARC is an exception, but that's only for sound - it's Audio Return Channel.

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I have tried the HDMI out button set to 1+2 and 2 only and still no video. It simply may not be possible for HDMI 1 out to display video to HDMI 2 out.
The only way HDMI 2 out will display video is when the signal is input through one of the HDMI in ports.
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HDMI 1 and 2 are outputs, not inputs. ARC is an exception, but that's only for sound - it's Audio Return Channel.
As Philnick pointed out you have your displays connected to HDMI outs (1and 2). You need to additionally connect all of your sources to HDMI inputs on the AVR. You will then get any of these sources to play on either your TV or projector. You can watch any source on your TV with the AVR off by selecting that input and making sure you have the pass through setting enabled.

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Two questions on setup: I know it's dependent on room size, speakers, etc. In my media room I have a 5.1.4 setup with Klipsch Speakers. I'm not sure if I just don't have it loud enough, when compared to my Sony 1060 receiver in my living room which is a 5.1 setup with Klipsch in wall speakers.

(1) For most of your viewing which sound setup do you use, surround, 9.1, etc.

(2) what is the typical volume setting to get a decent sound on the Yamaha? On the Sony usually 25-30 and the center speaker is very clear. I understand the Yamaha shows the inverse. Where should you typically be? Is negative 28-30 too low? Do i need to be around 25? Not sure what people typically listen to it at.
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Two questions on setup: I know it's dependent on room size, speakers, etc. In my media room I have a 5.1.4 setup with Klipsch Speakers. I'm not sure if I just don't have it loud enough, when compared to my Sony 1060 receiver in my living room which is a 5.1 setup with Klipsch in wall speakers.

(1) For most of your viewing which sound setup do you use, surround, 9.1, etc.

(2) what is the typical volume setting to get a decent sound on the Yamaha? On the Sony usually 25-30 and the center speaker is very clear. I understand the Yamaha shows the inverse. Where should you typically be? Is negative 28-30 too low? Do i need to be around 25? Not sure what people typically listen to it at.
Most TV shows I listen to at -15 to -10 and movies I listen at -5. I believe that most Yamaha receivers have 0dB as Reference (that is, the internal test tone, which is played at -30dBFS, should be 75dB at your listening position).

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Two questions on setup: I know it's dependent on room size, speakers, etc. In my media room I have a 5.1.4 setup with Klipsch Speakers. I'm not sure if I just don't have it loud enough, when compared to my Sony 1060 receiver in my living room which is a 5.1 setup with Klipsch in wall speakers.

(1) For most of your viewing which sound setup do you use, surround, 9.1, etc.

(2) what is the typical volume setting to get a decent sound on the Yamaha? On the Sony usually 25-30 and the center speaker is very clear. I understand the Yamaha shows the inverse. Where should you typically be? Is negative 28-30 too low? Do i need to be around 25? Not sure what people typically listen to it at.
As you stated, a lot will depend on room size, speakers (how efficient they are) and to a point your power amplifier (input voltage specs) I have found that in my room which is roughly 30'X20' with speakers placed along the long wall that I hit 80 SPL at 14' away from the speakers at -30 on my Yamaha volume control. This equates to about roughly 1/2 max volume. Now keep in mind I currently am running Klipsch La Scala II speakers which are extremely sensitive, but before I had those in place I had a pair of Klipsch RF-63 speakers and they would hit 80 SPL at 14' at -24 on the volume indicator. I currently run 9.2 setup but I tend to listen to stereo only with music. I also have a Rogue Audio Pharaoh Integrated tube amplifier, and paired with the La Scalas I get about 1/4 turn of the volume knob and it is at 80 SPL and can peak as high as 95 SPL during loud passages. The Rogue uses a tube preamp stage and Hypex digital amps which I think makes part of the difference between it and the Yamaha. Regardless of what you are trying to aim for, please from someone who has been into audio for the last 40 years, try and keep your volume at a safe listening level, nothing is worse than working most of your life to get your dream system together to find out you have lost some of your hearing and won't get the most out of it. OSHA has charts recommending the max SPL and time recommendations to keep this from happening.

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I just ran YPAO on my A5000 a bit ago. Second time I've ran it - I just added an SVS SB12 sub to the mix. I never looked at the results the first time. I don't get it - I have a 5.2 setup and I'm getting a REVERSE note on each of my 5 speakers - subs are 'NORMAL'. I can't imagine that I managed to screw up the polarity of all five speakers. Maybe one - or even two - but FIVE? Anyone have this happen? Should I reverse each of my five speaker terminals?

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I just ran YPAO on my A5000 a bit ago. Second time I've ran it - I just added an SVS SB12 sub to the mix. I never looked at the results the first time. I don't get it - I have a 5.2 setup and I'm getting a REVERSE note on each of my 5 speakers - subs are 'NORMAL'. I can't imagine that I managed to screw up the polarity of all five speakers. Maybe one - or even two - but FIVE? Anyone have this happen? Should I reverse each of my five speaker terminals?

The front three speakers are powered by the Acurus - Outlaw powers the surrounds and zone II.
Don't worry, this is an ongoing issue with just about all Yamaha Receivers/preamps from what I have read on multiple forums. Just verify that all the wiring is correct. I have ran YPAO on both my 3010's and my CX-a5000 multiple times with different speakers and get intermittent REVERSE messages upon completion. My unit always shows my Klipsch La Scala II's as being reversed.


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I just ran YPAO on my A5000 a bit ago. Second time I've ran it - I just added an SVS SB12 sub to the mix. I never looked at the results the first time. I don't get it - I have a 5.2 setup and I'm getting a REVERSE note on each of my 5 speakers - subs are 'NORMAL'. I can't imagine that I managed to screw up the polarity of all five speakers. Maybe one - or even two - but FIVE? Anyone have this happen? Should I reverse each of my five speaker terminals?

The front three speakers are powered by the Acurus - Outlaw powers the surrounds and zone II.
Wouldn't it be simpler just to reverse the phase of the subs? Of course, this might mean wiring a custom crossover cord for each of them, since they probably don't have discrete speaker terminals.

Or move them a few inches nearer or further away - phase is influenced by distance, after all.

EDIT: I actually think there's a "phase reverse" setting for the subwoofer output in most Yamahas - check your manual!


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Wouldn't it be simpler just to reverse the phase of the subs? Of course, this might mean wiring a custom crossover cord for each of them, since they probably don't have discrete speaker terminals.

Or move them a few inches nearer or further away - phase is influenced by distance, after all.

EDIT: I actually think there's a "phase reverse" setting for the subwoofer output in most Yamahas - check your manual!
I don't know if there is a phase adjustment in the A5000 but both subs have a reverse phase knob on the plate amps. Maybe both subs are wired wrong internally? It doesn't make sense - I know how to connect speakers. FWIW it sounds good playing a movie and I haven't switched anything. I've never seen anything like that before.

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Anyone with a cx-a5000 install the 1.87 firmware from 2/16/2017? It only lists napster support in the release note, but I have been having trouble with an LG TV and its optical output causing dropouts with my cx-5000 and wonder if it fixes that at all, or any other improvements besides just napster?
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Sorry if this might be a repeat question. I searched the thread and didn't see anything on it. I have the RX-A1030 set to "Processing" and resolution at "4k". My understanding is the unit has 4k Upscaling, so with that in mind, shouldn't my TV be reading the input signal from the 1030 as 4k, regardless of the resolution of the source material? I ask the question because with non 4k material, my TV "info" displays the source material resolution (i.e., 1080p will say 1080p). When I play a 4k source the TV displays 2160p. I would have thought with processing enabled it wold say 2160 regardless?

This is really more for my understanding more than anything. For all I know, maybe I don't understand what upscaling really is, and/or what the x030 series is supposed to be doing . And btw, I updated the firmware a little over a month ago so I should be somewhat current.

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Sorry if this might be a repeat question. I searched the thread and didn't see anything on it. I have the RX-A1030 set to "Processing" and resolution at "4k". My understanding is the unit has 4k Upscaling, so with that in mind, shouldn't my TV be reading the input signal from the 1030 as 4k, regardless of the resolution of the source material? I ask the question because with non 4k material, my TV "info" displays the source material resolution (i.e., 1080p will say 1080p). When I play a 4k source the TV displays 2160p. I would have thought with processing enabled it wold say 2160 regardless?

This is really more for my understanding more than anything. For all I know, maybe I don't understand what upscaling really is, and/or what the x030 series is supposed to be doing . And btw, I updated the firmware a little over a month ago so I should be somewhat current.
Info on the receiver tells you what it is receiving from the source.
The tv info should tell you 4k though because that is after the avr processing.
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Info on the receiver tells you what it is receiving from the source.
The tv info should tell you 4k though because that is after the avr processing.
Thanks. I'm at a loss then why the TV Info doesn't say 4k across the board as the 1030 processing is enabled and resolution is set to 4k. I also went into the web browser advanced setup to see if there might be additional settings I missed, but I didn't find anything.

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Is there anyway to make the subs active in Direct Mode on the CX-A5000? Now that I have stereo subs, I would like to see how they add to the music experience. :-)
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Is there anyway to make the subs active in Direct Mode on the CX-A5000? Now that I have stereo subs, I would like to see how they add to the music experience. :-)
Pure Direct?...No
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My 2030 and 740 are getting the "access error" msg on Pandora again.
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Let me put this another way and see if it gets any reaction...

YPAO sub eq is nothing more than a factory preset and thats why we all get the same result. YPAO does absolutely nothing to eq your sub.

Pretty radical, huh?

Can anyone prove me wrong?
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Pure Direct? Only if you pass the main speaker outputs through the sub and the high pass audio to the main speakers from the sub.

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My 2030 and 740 are getting the "access error" msg on Pandora again.
Are you still having this issue? I ask because I'd been having the "access error" problem on my 3020 since updating the firmware last November. Of the network services I use on the unit, it was only Pandora because I could access other stuff on the network just fine. I noticed a few weeks ago that if the unit re-established a network connection the error wouldn't trigger, but coming off of standby where it's always connected it would fail initially, even after powering the unit on over the network using the mobile app. I had the unit on a powerline ethernet, and a couple of weeks ago I decided to swap it out with a wifi range extender + ethernet and it has been fine since. My point is, maybe there's something with your link to the network that Pandora doesn't like. In my case, the powerline ethernet was never really reliable in my home and very unstable, and although Pandora ran fine on it for about 2 years, it started failing after I updated the firmware. On the flip side, my 1030 is on the same network and is connected to the router over "normal" ethernet and Pandora has been fine.

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Are you still having this issue? I ask because I'd been having the "access error" problem on my 3020 since updating the firmware last November. Of the network services I use on the unit, it was only Pandora because I could access other stuff on the network just fine. I noticed a few weeks ago that if the unit re-established a network connection the error wouldn't trigger, but coming off of standby where it's always connected it would fail initially, even after powering the unit on over the network using the mobile app. I had the unit on a powerline ethernet, and a couple of weeks ago I decided to swap it out with a wifi range extender + ethernet and it has been fine since. My point is, maybe there's something with your link to the network that Pandora doesn't like. In my case, the powerline ethernet was never really reliable in my home and very unstable, and although Pandora ran fine on it for about 2 years, it started failing after I updated the firmware. On the flip side, my 1030 is on the same network and is connected to the router over "normal" ethernet and Pandora has been fine.
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The issue started recently after about a year of no problems. No recent updates and both are hardwired.
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The issue started recently after about a year of no problems. No recent updates and both are hardwired.
On that note, the only reason why I updated last November is because the "Access Error" started happening on both my 1030 and 3020 (I posted in this thread about it). The firmware update fixed it on both units, but a few days after is when I started noticing the 3020 started having the issue again, which of course was coincidentally related to the powerline. Otherwise, the 1030 (hardwired) hasn't had issues since the update.

If you're current with the FW, the only other thing I can think of trying (barring a router and/or LAN/WAN issue) is setting a static IP on the router (keep the units on DHCP) if you haven't already tried it. That fixed the Pandora and general networking issues that I had with my first Aventage unit (3010), and I've been using static IP ever since.

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I just bought a cx-a5000 from a forum member and so far, am very happy, good price and in mint condition. Even the wife noticed how much clearer dialog is with this setup priot to apo calibration.. That was my only complaint on the RX-V3800 that this one replaced.
I currently have the RX-V3800 in my den. I have been using Yamaha for the last 20 years. I finally to a leap to Marantz for my media room with the AV7702mkII when it was first released.

I am now spoiled by how well HDMI control (CEC) works with the Marantz and primarily Sony components. I have the opportunity to buy the CX-A5000 to replace the RX-V3800 but I need to know how well HDMI control works.

Can I select inputs on the A5000 from the TV? Can I access the A5000 OSD from the TV? The TV is a Sony, HDMI 1.4a and works wonderfully with the Marantz HDMI 2.0 AVP.
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HDMI-CEC works well with my RX-V, I can't speak to the A5000. But I'm not sure that CEC will support what you want, as I understand it. I.e. control inputs and initiate AVR on-screen display with the TV remote. I CAN get some source selection on screen displays, menus, on my Samsung TV using the Yamaha remote with Samsung codes programmed into it.

Not addressing your question, but the Yamaha AV Controller app for iOS and Android is really good, I'm often reaching for an iPad Mini or using the iPad Air to control it from across the room, or in another room.

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