Not to rain on anyone's parade, but it's $3,000 components like these that make me "feel" that much better about the $1300 I spent on my Denon 4311 (3) years ago, now. Just what else are you getting, bottom line, 3 years later for over double the price?
And to that point, what is Yammy doing for the subs? Tell me they're finally providing some meaningful EQ to them if they're sticking with proprietary tech on a $3,000 PRE/PRO?
It's (slower evolution) really a good thing, AFAIC, as I think we've finally reached the point in the last few years where advances have become truly incremental and you don't feel compelled to run out and get a new AVR every 18 months...or maybe I'm just getting older.
Personally, there's simply no way on earth I could dish out this kind of money on an AVR/PRE without the HDMI 2.0/display mate stuff sorted and HDMI everywhere on board at this point. I feel many others will "non act" accordingly.
Still, I don't doubt these will be amazing machines, so enjoy them. For me, unless Onkyo has some big tricks up their sleeve it looks like I'll be "suffering" with my 4311 for another year, lol.