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post #1411 of 4071 Old 02-10-2014, 11:10 PM
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Hi folks, on the 3030 while playing FLAC files (16/44) how large a sonic difference do you find between "STRAIGHT" mode vs. "Pure Direct" mode?


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Just get myself a 2030

The difference from my marantz 5006 is immensevily wast, why didnt I buy this earlier ??

There are some newebi q I dont fix.

- how do I play Pandora and Rhapsody

- how do I turn it on with Roomie remote

- how do I adjust tuner input so I can get my 2 subwoofers.
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I just came from theMarantz AV7005 and I must say the ease of use and all of the features the CXA-5000 provides make for a very enjoyable experience. For movies this pre sounds amazing like wise with music. I watched a little bit of Rush and the separationseparation between the channels was great. YPAO is equally amazing and easy to use. It was also much quicker than audessey. I am very happy with this purchase and would recommend any one sitting on the fence to get one.

 

Thanks, its good to know others really like the Yamaha, personally for some reason could never buy the Marantz

or Pioneer much as i like most Pioneer kit,

and definitely not the Denon either as they are usually so boring sounding

 

yeap still on the fence

but bought the Beast last night online, the "Yamaha P7000s Pro amp" (2x1000 into 4ohms or 1x2000w)

for a sub upgrade, could nt resist, should be here by the end of the wk,

 

if i don't get evicted for noise pollution i let folks know how it sounds

the CX-A5000 will have to wait just a little bit longer

 

enjoy the CX-A

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I just set this receiver up for a friend last night. Sounds Good connected to his old school Infinity bookshelf speakers. I have a couple of questions to some issues I encountered. He is running a 5.1 setup in his main room, 2 bookshelf speakers in zone 2, and a Bose Acoustimas setup in zone 3. All wiring is correct. I used the setup on page 31 of the manual.

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#1. In zone 3, it seems as though no bass is going to the Bose setup. It sounds as if all bass is crossed over and out from that zone. ZERO bass going to the "sub" and just sound to the cubes. Wiring is 2 ch to the "sub" and then up to the cubes. He swore the sub worked before. So I wired into the main L/R to test. And sure enough, the sub "works" as well as it can. These are just being used for mood music in a sitting room.
***Put the receiver in Party Mode and get the same results in this zone-No Bass***

#2. His turntable is connected to the phono input on the receiver-and grounded. We get no sound coming out of it. Connected to his old Yamaha receiver, it works fine. I read in the manual on page 43 where it says something about the type of cartridge the turntable uses may determine if a boosting transformer is necessary. Any thoughts on whether this might be his issue? Never had to use a boosting transformer before.


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Hi folks, on the 3030 while playing FLAC files (16/44) how large a sonic difference do you find between "STRAIGHT" mode vs. "Pure Direct" mode?

I suspect there would be no inherent difference at all, because Pure Direct is not really Pure Direct for FLAC files (the DSP is still involved because it has to decode the input stream to PCM).

Any difference you hear will be because Straight mode applies EQ and Pure Direct doesn't (plus there's no bass management in Pure Direct, so it's not a direct comparison with Straight unless you have all speakers set as Large). When the input signal has to be decoded, Pure Direct really just becomes a quick way to turn off EQ and bass management (which I suppose still might be useful to some people).

With PCM or DSD input, Pure Direct can send the signal directly to the DACs bypassing all processing, and that might be a more interesting comparison, but the main advantage of Pure Direct is probably to send a good quality analog input direct to the output section (bypassing DACs as well as processing).
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FLACs and anything else file played over the network or from USB is decoded by the ARM CPU that handles networking. If it were the DSP doing the decoding you wouldn't be able to hear network sources in zone 2. I'm not sure if the DSP get physically bypassed in Pure Direct mode when a network/USB source is used.
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Good point, but I think it's probably true that Pure Direct does nothing special unless the source is analog (or maybe DSD). But it does serve as a quick way to see what your speakers sound like without EQ and/or bass management.

Edit: looking at the service manual for the A3000 (the latest I have), digital audio from the network processor (e.g. decoded FLAC) is converted to analog on the network board (DAC is a PCM1781). Then in Pure Direct mode it looks like it stays analog and bypasses the main DACs.
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I just got the network adapter and updated firmware, all went smooth. One thing is though, that Pandora keeps getting disconnected (did that before firmware update too) Any thoughts? I'm using the App on my HTC one

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I just got the network adapter and updated firmware, all went smooth. One thing is though, that Pandora keeps getting disconnected (did that before firmware update too) Any thoughts? I'm using the App on my HTC one
Does it say "access error"?

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Yes, anything I can do?
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Yes, anything I can do?
That used to happen to me a lot and still does from time to time. I didnt do anything special to fix it but its a fairly common problem.
Some people try resetting their router. Others try setting up a static ip address for the receiver.
Are you hardwired?

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If theres any way you can hardwire it that would be very beneficial.

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Excellent review of the CX-5000 & MX- A5000 in StereoPhile March issue.
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I would have to run it across the floor so that's a no go
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Excellent review of the CX-5000 & MX- A5000 in StereoPhile March issue.

I am waiting for the online version, as I do not want to pay ~25$for a single magazine
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So I finally hooked up my A2030 yesterday evening. Right off the bat the speakers were louder with the new AVR than my old RX-V867, most likely because the A2030 has more juice than the 867.

 

One thing that surprised me was the video hookups, from everything I can see the maximum video inputs you can use is 7 regardless of whether they are hdmi, component, composite, etc. I am using 4 of the hdmi inputs and one of the component inputs, however I had to connect one of my devices to hdmi input '5' instead of '4' since the component inputs are only 1 through 4. It's hard to explain, basically there is no option to display component 1 input or hdmi 1 input if both inputs are in use, it is only 'av input 1' so you can't have an hdmi device and a component device connected to the same respective input number.

 

Took me a few minutes to figure it out but once I did everything worked fine.


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Hey Marky what did the review say? I tried to ask Kal earlier but that didn't go to well. I understand he has to sell magazines!

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Excellent review of the CX-5000 & MX- A5000 in StereoPhile March issue.

Thank you.

 

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I am waiting for the online version, as I do not want to pay ~25$for a single magazine

??? Cover price is much less than $25.

 

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Hey Marky what did the review say? I tried to ask Kal earlier but that didn't go to well. I understand he has to sell magazines!

I generally say more than I should but Stereophile has to sell magazines.


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Exactly and I have no problem with that. I guess my next question would be how does it compare to the krell foundation? In your opinion!

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Just received my CX-A5000 today. Anyone have the IR codes in either text or Excel format to assist with programming my TSU-9400?

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PM me with your email address and I can send you the codes that I got from Yamaha and then converted from their NEC (I believe they are) to the HEX codes used by Pronto remotes to use with my TSU-9600.

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Exactly and I have no problem with that. I guess my next question would be how does it compare to the krell foundation? In your opinion!

My disclosure policy is unchanged.


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Uh ok!!

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I think I'll just go to the bookstore flip to what I want to know and leave it at that!

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My disclosure policy is unchanged.

Guys, please respect his stance. Just buy the magazine. If you are to cheap to buy a magazine to read what you need, then you should not be buying a pre-pro at all. mad.gif
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I respect his stance and will do exactly what I just said. And thank you for telling me what to do with my cash!

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It's only $2,500. Just buy it already. Now some amps worth using it with. Big bucks!
http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-CX-A5000BL-AVENTAGE-11-2-Channel-Pre-Amplifier/dp/B00DJ4BMG0
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Ok just a brief history. I had an integra dhc 80.3 and just sold it. So now I'm trying to decide between the cx-a5000, the Marantz 8801 and the krell foundation. I'll be pairing whatever I get with parasound halo amps! So money isn't the issue!!!

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Ok just a brief history. I had an integra dhc 80.3 and just sold it. So now I'm trying to decide between the cx-a5000, the Marantz 8801 and the krell foundation. I'll be pairing whatever I get with parasound halo amps! So money isn't the issue!!!
I wish youd been around when I was selling my stuff. biggrin.gif

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