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OK, this thread has really gone off the rails...

 

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Sorry for interloping, but no activity on the 730/830 site. Was wondering if you could help me answer this question-it says in the 830 features that it can upscale to 4k, does that mean that it will take a 1080p Blu-ray and give you some semblance of higher resolution?
Or, am I misinterpreting this? I am making the assumption that the 1030-3030 also would have this capability.
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Sorry for interloping, but no activity on the 730/830 site. Was wondering if you could help me answer this question-it says in the 830 features that it can upscale to 4k, does that mean that it will take a 1080p Blu-ray and give you some semblance of higher resolution?
Or, am I misinterpreting this? I am making the assumption that the 1030-3030 also would have this capability.
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Correct, that's what it means. How well it scales, I have no idea, but it'll convert 1080p or lower resolutions to match the native resolution of a 4K display, if you have a 4K display of course. Your display will do the same for that matter. You'd just have to try each and see which seems to do a better job of it, unless you can find a review site somewhere that's actually measured both. And yes, the higher the unit the more features it generally comes with, not less.

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Since my pj is only 1080p, guess I'm out of luck.
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Since my pj is only 1080p, guess I'm out of luck.
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Or, with a more positive view, you don't have to worry about it. wink.gif
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I wouldn't get the Yamaha to do it, as it's implementation of "4K" and version of HDMI limits it to a maximum frame rate of 30p in 4K/UHDTV.

So if you were to upscale true 50i/p or 60i/p to 4K, it would effectively halve the frame rate to 30. You don't want that. It would make smooth motion 'video' look like juddery 30p.

Because of this limitation of the Yamaha and it's version of HDMI (v1.4), you'd be much better off sending the TV a native signal (SD or HD), and letting the 4K TV upscale to UHDTV internally, which would preserve the native frame rate of the original signal, be it 24, 25, 30, 50 or 60 unique images per second.

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can anyone please whit the Yamaha 3030 can post a pic of what the info button of the Yamaha control show on the screen, thanks in advanced

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Hi guys, I'm looking at receivers and I thought I'd ask here.

 

I'm in a townhouse, so don't need crazy high wattage.  But I'd like the best sound possible for the money.  I'm pretty set on a Yamaha, but I'm not sure what model.  My ceiling is $500, and I see the Aventage RX-A1030 is $500 refurbished at accessories4less.  I'm pretty new to receivers, is it worth the extra over a new RX-V575 or RX-V675 (or x77)?

 

For now, I have an RC-500 center and RB-600 bookshelfs for fronts, but at some point I'll be getting some towers and moving the bookshelf speakers to the back.  I'd like Zone B because I am going to run 2 patio speakers off this amp as well.

 

Wireless networking is not important because I will be using a wired connection.

 

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That would be the previous year's 2012 RX-A1020 rather than the newer 2013 RX-A1030. Also note that Zone B is different from Zone 2 in that Zone B can only play the same source as is playing in the main zone rather than an independent source that can play to Zone 2.

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That would be the previous year's 2012 RX-A1020 rather than the newer 2013 RX-A1030. Also note that Zone B is different from Zone 2 in that Zone B can only play the same source as is playing in the main zone rather than an independent source that can play to Zone 2.

Whoops yes that's what I meant on both counts lol

 

i didn't realize zone 2 and b were different but I know exactly what you mean now. Zone 2 is what I want (could watch tv inside, music outside)

 

do you think it's worth it to spend extra (on a refurb) over a 575 or 675?

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With refurbs you are rolling the dice. Some work great and others don't. I haven't had much luck with them.

I'd shop around online and make phone calls to find the lowest prices.
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With refurbs you are rolling the dice. Some work great and others don't. I haven't had much luck with them.



I'd shop around online and make phone calls to find the lowest prices.

 



Yeah that's how i usually feel as well. It has a 1 year warranty, but not sure if it's worth the hassle. The problem is, there's no way I'd get one new for anywhere near $500. If I was looking new I'd be at a 575 or 675
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Whoops yes that's what I meant on both counts lol

i didn't realize zone 2 and b were different but I know exactly what you mean now. Zone 2 is what I want (could watch tv inside, music outside)

do you think it's worth it to spend extra (on a refurb) over a 575 or 675?
Go for the AVENTAGE AVR if you're after the best sound quality, (vs. the RX-V line I mean...).

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Go for the AVENTAGE AVR if you're after the best sound quality, (vs. the RX-V line I mean...).

 



Yeah, I know I should've lol. I got the 675 new, pricematched to BB for $400 after tax. I can still return it, I'll have to think about this
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Unless you want to step up to a 10x0 series I wouldn't bother. You could probably find a 673 for around 350 but not sure if the hassle of return is worth it.

The 1020 at crutchfield would be interesting at 699 if you can swing that but if you don't need the extra features I don't know if I'd pay extra just for just the sound quality. Ok I probably would but I don't think many others would.
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Unless you want to step up to a 10x0 series I wouldn't bother. You could probably find a 673 for around 350 but not sure if the hassle of return is worth it.

The 1020 at crutchfield would be interesting at 699 if you can swing that but if you don't need the extra features I don't know if I'd pay extra just for just the sound quality. Ok I probably would but I don't think many others would.

I would too -- I'm really impressed and happy with my Aventage.
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Go for the AVENTAGE AVR if you're after the best sound quality, (vs. the RX-V line I mean...).

 



Yeah, I know I should've lol. I got the 675 new, pricematched to BB for $400 after tax. I can still return it, I'll have to think about this

Somewhat generalizing not knowing your setup (room, speakers, sub, room treatments, etc.), but being an owner of a few current Yamaha receivers (RX-A2000, RX-V575 and older RX-V1900), unless it's lacking in features, the sound quality for movies and audio for the most part should be solid. I would suggest putting more coin towards your speakers in the long run. -TD
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Anyone, how is A3030 compare to Pioneer LX57? Thanks. I can't decide which to go

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I believe the LX57 is the SC-75 in the US. I have owned an SC-75, RX-A3020, and a CX-A5000. I prefer Yamaha. Sounds more natural to me. The SC-75 has a more sterile sound to it. That may sound negative, but its not. It comes down to personal preference.

I recommend purchasing both from a store with a good return policy. Test them and return the one you don't want.
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What is the rca output voltage on the pre outs? I can't find it anywhere for the 1030?
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What is the rca output voltage on the pre outs? I can't find it anywhere for the 1030?

1.0 volt at 1.2k Ohms - each pre-out jack, (measured with at 1kHz input).

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So using my 1030 I'm limiting my amp? Amp has input sensitivity at 1.43
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What is the rca output voltage on the pre outs? I can't find it anywhere for the 1030?

1.0 volt at 1.2k Ohms - each pre-out jack, (measured with at 1kHz input).

Posted specs for this are usually very low compared to actual output. I have measured receivers with greater than 4 volts output when manufacturer spec say 1.0v.

I have a 3020 and the outputs of both main channels and subwoofer easily drive pro amps. I would expect the same for the 10x0 series as well.
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Indeed. The low pre-out voltage FUD of Yamaha receivers has already been discussed and debunked many times. Go back about a month in this thread, and you'll find:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1474980/the-official-yamaha-aventage-rx-a1030-rx-a2030-rx-a3030-and-cx-a5000-mx-a5000-thread/1740#post_24426755
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Thanks all. Ok, another trivial question. Is there any way for the receiver to display "Blu Ray" instead of AV1 when I am watch movies? I know, I know....I like the bling lol

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Yes, there is. But you'll need to read the manual. Follow these easy steps:

1. Download manual from http://download.yamaha.com/api/asset/file/?language=en&site=usa.yamaha.com&asset_id=59599
2. Read Page 93.
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Thanks all. Ok, another trivial question. Is there any way for the receiver to display "Blu Ray" instead of AV1 when I am watch movies? I know, I know....I like the bling lol

Yes, go into the inputs on the screen, then press the upbutton, it will allow you to edit the names of the inputs. Took me a while to figure that one out too.

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Is it true that the A3030 power consumption is only rated at 490W? When all 9 channels driven at the same time basically this receiver only get about 54W each? confused.gif
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Is it true that the A3030 power consumption is only rated at 490W? When all 9 channels driven at the same time basically this receiver only get about 54W each? confused.gif

I would bet that the 490 watts is an average/normal value versus maximum. Also, it would be an unusual program material content that would attempt to drive all channels to maximum at the same time (at least for more than very brief peaks).
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