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Wish they had added free amp assign like the 4520 for the extra money on the SR7008. Can see where that would be handy to have as I have an external amp for the front 3 channels. Not much flexibility with the amp assign in either the X4000 or SR7008 as you can't reassign the front 3 channel amps.
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The manual is not absolutely clear - to me - but the remote on the SR7008 seems to be a learning remote with a very small display window while the X4000 uses manufacturer codes and I don't believe it can learn commands.

Being the anal sort, I do like the appearance of the back panel better on the SR7008. Zero value to most but gives me a warm fuzzy feeling. :-)
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Being the anal sort, I do like the appearance of the back panel better on the SR7008.

 

I have always felt Marantz is worth a few bills over its Denon cousin on cosmetics alone. At times they more than stretch the advantage although their limited availability tends to keep the street pricing even wider. A while back I stole a NIB SR7007 for $1,235 and still felt it was some what over priced... ended up returning it when I found a feature I dearly needed it didn't offer.

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I have always felt Marantz is worth a few bills over its Denon cousin on cosmetics alone. At times they more than stretch the advantage although their limited availability tends to keep the street pricing even wider. A while back I stole a NIB SR7007 for $1,235 and still felt it was some what over priced... ended up returning it when I found a feature I dearly needed it didn't offer.
Some like the look for sure.

Marantz has a dedicated page for their new line up. see http://us.marantz.com/us/promotions/pages/index.aspx
and you can compare what Denon offers at http://in-command.denon.com/

I'm waiting for some reviews with lab results against both as the last HomeTheater.com for the SR7007 was not impressive.

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Marantz SR5008, SR6008, and SR7008 Receivers Preview
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SR7008 - $1999
We finally arrive at the top of Marantz’s 2013 SR lineup, the SR7008 for $1999. The SR7008 is a $200 price increase over the SR7007, but there’s good reason for the extra cash, and good reason to upgrade. It’s now a full-fledged 9.2 receiver, with 9 fully discrete 125 watt internal amplifiers and 11 sets of binding posts. The 11 sets of binding posts are accompanied by 11.2 preouts, but unfortunately the SR7008 only has the processing power to support a 9.2 system. A 3rd HDMI output finally appears (2 discrete, 1 clone) and a 3rd zone of audio as well. Even more important is the upgrade to Audyssey MultEQ XT32 & Audyssey SubEQ HT.

The SR7008 sits at an interesting spot compared to the AVR-X4000 for $700 less. Both receivers have a nearly identical feature set, but the SR7008 has full multichannel inputs, 9 internal amplifiers, and higher grade components. The power capacitors are also larger in the SR7008, 15,000uF compared to 12,000uF. Granted, the larger caps are for supporting the extra two channels of amplification, not for providing more power per channel. One final note is that Marantz is going to continue producing last year's SR7007 to help fill the large gap between the SR6008 and SR7008.
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Interestig comment in feedback responses.
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I thought the interesting comment / claim in the preview report was that the Marantz has higher grade components. I have no way of knowing if that is true but would love some verification of that.
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There's a slight comparison here: (http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/receivers/marantz-sr5008-sr6008-sr7008)

Can anyone tell me if this HDAM from Marantz does any improvement on audio as they say on an AVR or that's just "marketing hype"?
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There's a slight comparison here: (http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/receivers/marantz-sr5008-sr6008-sr7008)

Can anyone tell me if this HDAM from Marantz does any improvement on audio as they say on an AVR or that's just "marketing hype"?
Same as whats linked 2 posts above. smile.gif

HDAM is fairly old (1992), whether it actually lives up to its hype is questionable. See this link, also see this link for some info on it. cool.gif

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SR7008 looks pretty interesting. I've been following the thread on the Denon X-series receivers with great interest, but was disappointed that the X4000 could only power two zones and that the 4520 didn't have the digital multizone features. The 7008 covers both bases. I spent some quality time with the 7008 manual and was encouraged. It would replace an ancient SR8000 in the living room and would also power speakers in the master bath and on the patio. XT32 should do a lot for that room given the open floorplan and asymmetrical location of the speakers (I use XT on an older Denon in the media room and have been pleased with the results for multichannel).
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Any insight when these receivers will become available? Amazon has the SR7008 listed, but the page shows available in 3-7 months!
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Excellent! Secondary zone preamps appear to by dying in my Denon 5805 and the SR8000 doesn't power secondary zones. Now the decision will be whether to go for the digital multizone on the SR7008 or the more robust power/dacs/secondary HD capabilities of the Denon 4250.
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I did read the SR7008 user manual and it looks very robust and interesting. It's definitely filling the gap between the X4000 and the 4520. Now my choices are narrowed among the 7008 and 4520, more towards the 7008 smile.gif

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I Guess price may go down, as it simply doesn´t worth it at this price point. I´d rather go to the Denon X-4000, which is exactly the same AVR at US$1200,-.

I do not know what is the strategy from D&M in terms of marketshare gains with it...if there´s any. Maybe it´s to push Multichannel market to Denon.
Denon has no HDAM modules, and the sonic signature is different...
Marantz has their ardent supporters, and this is good news for such buyers..
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Denon has no HDAM modules, and the sonic signature is different...
Marantz has their ardent supporters, and this is good news for such buyers..

Thanks for that, I had just made up my mind to get the Denon X4000 and you have to get me thinking about the Marantz again biggrin.gif
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Denon has no HDAM modules, and the sonic signature is different...
Marantz has their ardent supporters, and this is good news for such buyers..

There are some extra things that the SR7008 have than the Denon X4000 does not:

- 2 more amps
- 7.1 Multichannel input
- Golden biding posts
- Extra Component video input
- Current Feedback
- Learning and illuminated remote

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Also some minor stuff like --
Flasher input
M-X port
Nicer speaker connectors like the 4520
Front height speakers assignable
1 inch taller and deeper enclosure

oh and $600 MSRP difference. smile.gif
might be more like $400 street price difference but will have to wait to see.
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There are some extra things that the SR7008 have than the Denon X4000 does not:

- 2 more amps
- 7.1 Multichannel input
- Golden biding posts
- Extra Component video input
- Current Feedback
- Learning and illuminated remote

But they are still only offer 125 watts/ch amps on the SR 7008? At $1999, HDAM modules and current feedback technology are not enough of a incentive to steer you away from a Denon AVR-4520 which offers 150 watts/ch when close to the $2k mark against current discounting. Mind you I like the look and what it offers though.

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I do like the 4520 better but I want digital multizone capability, something that the 4520 does not have. Also I like the look of the 7008 smile.gif...BTW, I don't need the power of the 4520 because I'm running my front with an Emo XPA-3.

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I do like the 4520 better but I want digital multizone capability, something that the 4520 does not have. Also I like the look of the 7008 smile.gif...BTW, I don't need the power of the 4520 because I'm running my front with an Emo XPA-3.
I agree on the digital multi-zone capability, thats a plus. BTW nice Home Theater setup. smile.gif
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Just got a reply from Marantz customer service saying the new receivers are hoping to be released at the end of July.
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Yes, I think that's the case for the SR7008. The 6008 and 5008 are scheduled to be available on Crutchfield by June 24th.

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_642SR6008/Marantz-SR6008.html

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I read somewhere that these products (sonically speaking) are developed in Japan using B&W speakers. Is (or was) that a fact ?
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Missing wifi come on Marantz get with the time.
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Built-in wifi is not common in my experience. A wifi adapter is a cheap accessory. Seems that most people hard cable their receivers to get faster connections and more reliable connections.
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Built-in wifi is not common in my experience. A wifi adapter is a cheap accessory. Seems that most people hard cable their receivers to get faster connections and more reliable connections.

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if one wants reliable connectivity, hard wired is the way to go. while we all use wifi in hotel rooms, at home at the "kitchen table" & with smartphones/ipods, etc. I for one wouldn't put my faith on it for fast, reliable media streaming & especially any firmware updates. those that want to roll the dice with wifi are certainly free to do so. but I know from my own personal experience with wifi just cruising the 'net, hotel room use or trying to run company software over the 'net, it isn't what I use or will ever use for my home theater. the best you can say is that when it works, it's just an OK experience. at its worst it's a POS for reliability.

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I definitely don't need wifi in my AVR. All my stuff is hardwired with Cat5e inside the A/V cabinet. Even all my network stuff (Comcast modem, Apple Time Capsule, Gigabit Router and Synology NAS) are inside the same A/V cabinet. If someone wants wifi or Bluetooth, then Onkyo is the way to go, but I still prefer Denon/Marantz without those wireless capabilities but having Audyssey MultEQ XT32 + SubEQ HT, something that even the 929 does not have (I mean SubEQ HT)

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The Marantz SR7008 is now listed at Crutchfield with an ETA of July 29th. Electronic Warehouse has it listed with an ETA of July 1st. Both, SR5008 and SR6008 will be available by the end of June.

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I will return my x4000 and try the sr7008 most likely. x4000 works well for movies, was hoping for a bit nicer 2 channel music performance.
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I had a bit of hope that the 7008 would offer 11 channel pre's but knew better. More and more my 4311 looks like it's here to stay another year.

The 4520, x4000, Elites, 7008, yammy 3030....NONE of them give me 11 channels, digital outs to the zones, and full sub EQ. The 4311 does. Guess I'll see what Onkyo brings in the 1, 3, and 5000 series.

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