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View Poll Results: Which is best
DIRAC Live 16 64.00%
Audyssey MultEQ XT32 9 36.00%
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post #1 of 12 Old 06-03-2013, 05:17 PM - Thread Starter
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No one has done this really?
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I suspect the few experienced Dirac users are running Datasat units and hang out in the $20K sub-forum. Multiple existing threads, there.
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no offense, but how many people in a subforum that caters mostly to mainstream receiver owners would you expect to have the opportunity to demo or own $20-40K processors?

not very dam many...

speaking for myself, I've only heard the ADA Trinnov piece one time, at a CEDIA show. AFAIK, there is no one in the Atlanta area who sells ADA let alone Datasat. I believe this metro area is pretty similar to most in the US. also I can't recall anyone in this area who ever posted about actually owning a Datasat or ADA Trinnov prepro.

I think your question has a lot of merit but you'll get more feedback in the $20K+ forum.

edit - RUR beat me to the right answer smile.gif

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No one has done this really?
Really. IF you are looking for a comparison of those two room correction systems, not the DACs or analogue circuitry of the boxes they come in, then you'd be hard pressed to find someone that "has done this".

That doesn't mean it can't be done, since both room correction systems are available in software-only versions that you can buy and install on the same computer, thereby eliminating other variables from the comparison.

http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/arc/

http://www.dirac.se/en/consumer-products/dirac-rcs.aspx

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Really. IF you are looking for a comparison of those two room correction systems, not the DACs or analogue circuitry of the boxes they come in, then you'd be hard pressed to find someone that "has done this".

That doesn't mean it can't be done, since both room correction systems are available in software-only versions that you can buy and install on the same computer, thereby eliminating other variables from the comparison.

http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/arc/

http://www.dirac.se/en/consumer-products/dirac-rcs.aspx

Yes I know I just don't want to spend over a $1000 to compare them! I will ask in the DATASAT thread
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ARC is just a plugin and there is no way to get it to work globally without some problem or the other. I am going to buy a mic and then try the Dirac Live trial with the multichannel analog inputs on my SR5008 since HDMI is a nuisance.
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I am currently comparing Dirac Live on PC vs Audyssey MultEQ XT on my receiver. Just for the purpose of comparison I am temporarily using a HDMI connection for both (I set my AVR to Direct Mode while testing Dirac so that Audyssey is disabled). I will later switch to the multi-channel analog input with my sound card for Dirac because of all the problems with an extra HDMI connection.

I felt Dirac has superior clarity for music. The left and right channels sound like I'm listening on headphones. The continuous subwoofer rumbling from Audyssey has stopped. The sub is only noticeable during loud sound effects. I think Dirac is more suited to stereophiles or music listening. For movies and games I prefer the bass from Audyssey (with both Dynamic EQ on and off).
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I'm reviving this old thread because a completely indipendent test (including both measurements and listening tests) where two leading products are compared face to face is very hard to find for obvious reasons.
A very detailed one had been published here:
www.hometheatershack.com/forums/audio-processing/117433-audyssey-xt32-vs-dirac-live-listening-comparison.html
I've been sincerely impressed by the uncommon intellectual honesty of the tech reviewer who not only took a stand but also modified it where he considered it appropriate after additional testing:
www.hometheatershack.com/forums/audio-processing/117433-audyssey-xt32-vs-dirac-live-listening-comparison-3.html#post1224906

I admire him... it's really unusual
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P.S. Luckily (from my biased point of view) the poll results are aged and outdated

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With the introduction of several miniDSP products incorporating Dirac, as well as the Emo XMC-1, it's impressive how far Dirac RC has come in just a couple of years.

Bravo.
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Sadly the author of that comparison was too much of a giant ***** to make an actual conclusion as to which sounded better.
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Sadly the author of that comparison was too much of a giant ***** to make an actual conclusion as to which sounded better.
If you have a very bad room then Dirac may be superior. MultEQ is cautious when boosting and limits the dB as well as frequency range it corrects. Dirac makes my sub flat to 20 Hz at medium volume which sounds better than Audyssey's safer 30 Hz limit, provided you listen at volumes the speakers can handle.

They are targeted at different audiences. Most people will screw up the Dirac measurement since it does not have multiple chirp fault tolerance like Audyssey. On top of that, Audyssey will also retry a channel if it detects interference. They also may not realize they have to align the -12 dB volume level with -12 dB on their amp. I don't know if this is even correct given the microphone has unknown gain.

With their current marketing strategy, Dirac is only available to advanced users in the first place so the above is not really an issue. They need to include bass management and equal loudness compensation in order to be as friendly as Audyssey. Finally, people should educate themselves about how to properly use whatever tool they choose and not come to incorrect conclusions.

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