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I am looking for some advice as to how best to wire my walkout finished basement. I am basically trying to create a 7.2 surround system in the theater area who's reciever could run the same or a second source to either two additional speakers at the bar and/or two additional outdoor speakers. As far as I can tell I would need a dual zone reciever with the 7.2 speaker outs and an additional preamp source out, which would then go to an external amp and then to a speaker selector, then from there to the two sets of two speakers (two bar and two outdoor).

First, is my method above the best/most cost effective way to achieve this? The additional two sets of two speakers should be able to play source 1 or 2 audio correct? Secondly, assuming this is the best way or if there is a better way could anyone give recommendations of what componenets to buy? Im looking for the best bang for the buck but am not on a very tight budget. Also, I hoping to control the whole system by ipad/iphone. I believe there are some receivers with iphone apps and also a remote speaker selector out there. Thanks in advance for all the help. I am pretty new to the home audio world so help with speaker selection/receiver compatibility would be very much appreciated too. The lower floor is already prewired with CL2 12g speaker wire. Thanks again.
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Although a 9.1 AVR (eg. Denon 4520CI) would be able to handle all zones without an external amp, doing so with a 7.1 AVR + 2CH external amp + speaker selector would be much less costly. Consider the Denon X2000, X3000, or X4000 (see post #2 in the 2013 Denon AVR-E/X Models" thread linked in my sig to compare features) as they all feature Zone 2 pre-outs and the X4000 features Zone 3 pre-outs as well for an independent source to all 3 zones. The vast majority of AVRs on the market today cannot pass a digital signal to other than the main zone so in that instance you would also need to connect an analog cable from the source in addition to the HDMI cable. The new Denon "X" series have an "All Zone Stereo" feature which will pass the same HDMI source playing in the main zone to the other zones. Also, the X3000 and X4000 will pass a PCM 2.0 signal from an optical/digital input to Zone 2 as well.

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Do a search here for the Pioneer SC1522. They are being snapped up fast from Costco, with a promotion sale price of $599. This AVR will do what you want at a price point that was so far unheard of for a 9.2 receiver.

Why go out to a movie theater?
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Thanks for the advice! So could I accomplish a two independent zone set up with solely a receiver? Like a 9.2 or 11.2 system using 2 outs (leaving a 7.2 or 9.2 surround set up) into a splitter/selector for four speakers (2bar & 2 outdoor)? Would this be the easiest way to accomplish this?
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Also where is a good place to purchase receivers, speaker selectors, and speakers? Crutchfield ?
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Forum sponsor Monoprice is a great place for cables, switches, and wire, and if you don't mind paying MSRP, then Crutchfield is a good place for speakers and AVRs, however, you also may want to call the AVScience sales shop for better prices.



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Thanks for the advice! So could I accomplish a two independent zone set up with solely a receiver? Like a 9.2 or 11.2 system using 2 outs (leaving a 7.2 or 9.2 surround set up) into a splitter/selector for four speakers (2bar & 2 outdoor)? Would this be the easiest way to accomplish this?

Yup ... the easiest and most expensive for sure.

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You lost me JD. Your cheapest 7.1 Denon is $649, already $50 more than the 9.2 Pioneer, and I haven't thrown in your cost for your 2 channel amp and speaker selector...

Yes Monty, the Pioneer has 2 zones out, 1 of which passes HDMI IIRC. There are lots of sources for quality HT stuff at great prices, check Amazon, Newegg, etc.

I'm running new Martin Logan Motion 12 mains $450, used Polk center $60, 4 Andrew Jones designed Pioneer BS22's $180, 2 Andrew Jones designed Pioneer FS52 surrounds $170, and 3 subs, latest was Theater Solutions 15F $200.

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You're referring to paying MSRP which although true in many cases, is not always the case as there are a number of authorized Denon resellers that sell below MSRP, AVScience sales to name one. Also, it depends on whether one prefers MCAAC (Pioneer) over Audyssey (Denon).

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Ah, gotcha. The price I'm quoting is for a new Denon from Amazon which is the street price, not MSRP. To your point, One can also get a used 7.1 receiver with HDMI capability for $100 on Craigslist. I've bought 3 or 4 Yamahas that way.

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If you are referring to the X2000, then the listed Amazon sale price is the current MSRP of the unit as Denon lowered the MSRP of several of its models a couple of months ago, while the "street" price at some "authorized" resellers is up to $125 less than that price (eg. AVScience sales). wink.gif


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