Pioneer Elite SC-71 vs Denon AVR -X4000 any suggestions are welcome - AVS Forum
Forum Jump: 
 
Thread Tools
post #1 of 11 Old 06-25-2013, 08:46 AM - Thread Starter
Member
 
Djemil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 34
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
I'm looking to set up a home theater and need everything here is what I have planned for speakers so far
1 x Fusion-8 Alchemy MTM for a center
4 x Fusion-8 Alchemy for fronts and rears
and at least 2 subs that I will build not sure what yet but those will be powered by a pro amp

So I was looking at receivers and these two stuck out to me and I have a buddy at Best Buy that can get me the Denon for $700 and the Pioneer for $610

I'm open to other suggestions as well in the same price point

thanks for your help
Djemil is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 11 Old 06-25-2013, 02:21 PM
585-645-1006
 
jdsmoothie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 42,828
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 276 Post(s)
Liked: 1302
X4000 is expandable to 9.2 and uses Audyssey MultEQ XT32 + Sub EQ HT for dual sub processing.
Djemil likes this.

---------------------------------
"JD" – jd@avscience.com ; shop.avscience.com ; 585-645-1006, AVScience - AVSForum sponsor for 15 years  
Mon - Fri: 8am – 8pm EST (Sat/Sun, leave message)
Call for pricing on Denon, Marantz, Yamaha, Onkyo, Klipsch, Def Tech, Oppo, Parasound 
** Think the AVR is defective?  Reset the microprocessor 4-5 times. 
jdsmoothie is offline  
post #3 of 11 Old 06-25-2013, 02:25 PM
AVS Special Member
 
oztech's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Houston Texas
Posts: 7,657
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 93
Any special needs or wants as they are both capable AVR's.
Djemil likes this.
oztech is offline  
post #4 of 11 Old 06-26-2013, 06:08 AM - Thread Starter
Member
 
Djemil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 34
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
not any specifics they both have plenty of features
this is going to be a dedicated movie room 80% of the time and music the other 20% for this room and a zone two that I ran to the backyard

I think Im leaning to the x4000

Thanks for your thoughts
Djemil is offline  
post #5 of 11 Old 06-26-2013, 07:45 AM
Member
 
j0hnnyyyy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: texas
Posts: 140
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 15
i just bought the sc71 and have same dilemma. i like pioneer because they use class d amps but i dont like the fact that when i got my sc71 home it only has preouts for the fronts. why would pioneer do that when their previous model sc61 has preouts for all seven channels it doesnt make sense. i might be exchanging the sc71 for the denon but i dont want to lose the fact that pioneer uses class d amps

Samsung 64e8000 plasma
denon x4000
BW 683 Fronts,HTM61 Center, BW 685 Rears, sc4000 sw
apple tv
harmony 650
panasonic 210 blu ray
panamax m5300
j0hnnyyyy is offline  
post #6 of 11 Old 06-26-2013, 08:13 AM
AVS Special Member
 
oztech's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Houston Texas
Posts: 7,657
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 93
Quote:
Originally Posted by j0hnnyyyy View Post

i just bought the sc71 and have same dilemma. i like pioneer because they use class d amps but i dont like the fact that when i got my sc71 home it only has preouts for the fronts. why would pioneer do that when their previous model sc61 has preouts for all seven channels it doesnt make sense. i might be exchanging the sc71 for the denon but i dont want to lose the fact that pioneer uses class d amps
I believe the SC-72 has 7.1 pre outs but most of the time the D3 amps handle loads quite nicely.
oztech is offline  
post #7 of 11 Old 06-26-2013, 12:55 PM
Member
 
j0hnnyyyy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: texas
Posts: 140
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 15
the sc72 does have pre out for 7 but for the price the denon x4000 to me is a better value. i finally ended my two month quest of finding a receiver and exchanged the sc71 for the denon x4000 and i must say I love it already and barely had it for couple hours. I was a strong believer of yamaha because I'm running bw speakers but after they screwed me multiple times i decided to try the pioneer sc71. which failed me cause it didn't have the pre outs im going to need also the audyssey is superior to the mcacc in my experience. I am enjoying the denon receiver from the moment I opened it.
Djemil likes this.

Samsung 64e8000 plasma
denon x4000
BW 683 Fronts,HTM61 Center, BW 685 Rears, sc4000 sw
apple tv
harmony 650
panasonic 210 blu ray
panamax m5300
j0hnnyyyy is offline  
post #8 of 11 Old 08-16-2013, 06:53 PM
Member
 
wappinghigh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 173
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
My special need. Multichannel PCM *and* DSD streaming via UPnP. Not USB (this is *not* "streaming")..... VIA UPnP!

Can the Pioneer do this? And gapless?

Thanks
wappinghigh is offline  
post #9 of 11 Old 12-22-2013, 04:23 PM
Newbie
 
superfly36's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 2
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10

I have always been a fan of Pioneer receivers.  They seem to produce a much warmer and true sound reproduction than most other amps I have tried over the years.  I have been using the Pioneer vsx43 for about the last 9 years and  somehow a surge got through to it and it just didn't work the same after that.  I just picked up the Pioneer sc71 for Christmas and of course I could not just let it sit under the tree for a few days,  no it had to be set up immediately!   By far this was the easiest receiver set up I have ever done.  All hdmi equipment to hook up and the MAACC speaker set up program worked almost perfect.  I still had to fine tune some of the speaker levels and change the crossover setting but it did pretty damn good for a quick set up.  I broke out my sound meeter to check volume levels and it got them exactly correct.  Anyway long story short the SC71 has that incredible Pioneer warmth and tone that I have always loved and can never find in other brands.  Picked it up for 879.00 at A&B TV in Austin TX.  They are always very helpful and if you explain your set up and situations to them they will try to sell you what you need not the most expensive thing on the shelf. 

Running:

Pioneer SC71 receiver

Sony BD

Paradigm Mini Monitors V.3 front and rears

Paradigm cc170 Center

TWO Paradigm 10" 250 subs.

 

P.S.  With all the extra power with this D3 amplifier my music sounds incredible even at low levels and I ran an eathernet cable into the receiver and the internet options are pretty much endless with this thing.

Long story short.....Always choose what sounds best to your ears,  but in my opinion the SC71 can not be beat in its price range.

 

Good Luck,

Superfly.

superfly36 is offline  
post #10 of 11 Old 05-31-2014, 09:41 AM
Newbie
 
sajeets's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 4
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 10

Denon x4000 vs the SC-72???

sajeets is offline  
post #11 of 11 Old 05-31-2014, 05:59 PM
AVS Addicted Member
 
afrogt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 22,716
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 43 Post(s)
Liked: 348
afrogt is offline  
Reply Receivers, Amps, and Processors

User Tag List

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off