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post #391 of 402 Old 05-16-2014, 06:28 AM
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I don't know but I do know that most software media players have a shuffle mode. You should be able to connect to one of your choice with the receiver. The one I use is Koo Ra Roo but there are plenty of good ones.
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I am in the process of building up a HT / Listening room in my basement. I have the opton to get the older SC-65 for $950 or the newer SC-75 for $1200.

There is a $250 difference, and I am trying to figure out if the newer unit is worth the extra expense. From what I have gathered, the differences are not too big.

1. The amp is +5w (but I am driving the mains, center and surround pre-out to a 250w Anthem power amp)
2. There is a newer 22bit sabre dac.
3. 4K video
4. and extra HDMI out.

Does the newer DAC help the unit sound any better? I don't have a 4K TV, but might in the future. Does it make the picture on screen look any better, or would I get the same thing with just getting an Oppo 103d and let it upscale to 4K and then pass through the pioneer, or even bypass it for video out and go direct,

Just wondering as these units have been out for a bit now.
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. The 32-bit DAC helps a lot and the audio upscaling too. If you buy it for the additional power, etc, it's not worth the money.

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. The 32-bit DAC helps a lot and the audio upscaling too. If you buy it for the additional power, etc, it's not worth the money.

Helps a lot with what?

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Well, since the DAC deals with sound, then the DAC helps a lot with the sound quality

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I am in the process of building up a HT / Listening room in my basement. I have the option to get the older SC-65 for $950 or the newer SC-75 for $1200.



You might also want to look at the Pioneer 1523-K. Based on everything I can find, it is the same AVR as the SC-75 (with the exception of a gold display and the "Elite" badge). The marketing sheets/spec sheets put out by Pioneer show the same information for both receivers. Oddly, if you look at the SC-75 on Amazon, it tells you "there is s newer version of this item" and links you to the 1523.

The 1523 sells for $999, giving you much more than the SC-65 for essentially the same cost.
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The 1523 sells for $999, giving you much more than the SC-65 for essentially the same cost.

The down side is that the 1523 is only sold in the USA, so being in Canada it becomes a real pain for me..

1. have to ship it to a us mailing address and pay for that
2. warranty void if I try and get it fixed in Canada, considered now grey market
3. if I had to get it fixed, have to bring it back to the usa. travel costs
4. will end up paying not only Canada's HST but also US state tax depending on where it's shiped to, and possible duty bringing it back into canada.

I ended up getting the SC1528K for $1099. I tried to get them to match the US price, or the sale price from Christmas, but they would not go any lower. It wasn't worth the extra fight for another $100.
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The down side is that the 1523 is only sold in the USA, so being in Canada it becomes a real pain for me.

Yes... I missed that part. That does make a difference.

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I ended up getting the SC1528K for $1099. I tried to get them to match the US price, or the sale price from Christmas, but they would not go any lower. It wasn't worth the extra fight for another $100.

The minor differences in model number names by are/country were confusing me at first. When I started looking for an AVR and heard about the Pioneer I was seeing all the model numbers with essentially the same feature set. I guess that have some reason for it.

Isn't the 1528 the "Canadian" version of the 1523? Same difference, I guess. $1099 isn't a bad price. You are right - sometimes it isn't worth the hassle to argue over the last few dollars.
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the SC1528K is the futureshop exclusive. It allows them to never have to compete with any of the dealers.. They have a price beat policy so if you can get a unique product number even though it is an exact same unit, then you never have to worry. I guess it could work both ways but the Elite dealers will generally match the FS prices.
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So I've had my new SC-75 set up with all my stuff for a few days and I must say I am loving it. I'm using it to power a 5.1 setup of Polk Monitors. 70s for the mains, CS2 for the center and 30s for the surrounds. It replaced an Onkyo 607 that was starting to act a little wonky with HDMI handshaking and such and I had too many consoles and other components for its relative lack of inputs, and it didn't support 3D which was requiring me to Jerry rig my PS3 directly to my TV with an optical back to the receiver for 3D stuff on my new Panny 65VT60. I love how it can have completely different settings for every input because I wanted to have the mains send bass to the sub while listening to stereo music but not for any 5.1 stuff. I also like how it has so many HDMI inputs which is a must with me having my Xbox 360, PS3, Xbox One, PS4, Wii U, Apple TV and PC all hooked up to it. Was considering waiting for the HDMI 2.0 refresh for future proofing but when I found out that none of the higher end receivers were coming out until later in the year from any of the manufacturers it kind of forced my hand.

All in all, I'm really glad I jumped ship from Onkyo to Pioneer. I was close to getting a 929 for a moment but with all the HDMI issues I've been having I changed my mind.

The one thing I wasn't much of a fan of was the MCACC auto calibration though. It made my system sound wimpy as all hell. Anyone else feel the same way about this?

One other thing it would've been nice to have on here would've been some kind of SPL reading for the volume control. I work in sound mixing for TV and am used to the SPL setting for reference levels and the -10.whatever dB readout doesn't really mean much to me.
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^ I don't know of a receiver that offers a sound meter as a feature. Personally the first thing I invested in when I bought my first Elite (SC-07) was sound meter from Radio Shack. Inexpensive and handy to have around if you want to check settings. I would also suggest doing some reading over on the MCACC thread, great way to learn more about its functions, etc.

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Very nice! I've had my SC-77 now for about 4 months and I am loving it. I'm essentially powering the same thing as you (Monitor 70's and a CS20...but my back ones are Reference Klipsch speakers) and it's been amazing. I finally got around to running my other zones, and man...it's great. I have a 3 TV display in my theatre room and it's so nice now to be able to run everything from the receiver. Add to it that I have a few splitters set up on my Zone 2 and HD zone...and I'm controlling a TV in my garage and speakers on my patio. So nice. I know my old VSX-23 could do some of those, but it was easy.

I still don't like how I can't get a shuffle on the device though. But I can just as easily stream through the xbox or whatever. But when I'm in my garage or sitting out by the patio, I'm stuck listening to music from media player in the order it's on there. No option on the phone to shuffle (at least that I can find).

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So I've had my new SC-75 set up with all my stuff for a few days and I must say I am loving it. I'm using it to power a 5.1 setup of Polk Monitors. 70s for the mains, CS2 for the center and 30s for the surrounds. It replaced an Onkyo 607 that was starting to act a little wonky with HDMI handshaking and such and I had too many consoles and other components for its relative lack of inputs, and it didn't support 3D which was requiring me to Jerry rig my PS3 directly to my TV with an optical back to the receiver for 3D stuff on my new Panny 65VT60. I love how it can have completely different settings for every input because I wanted to have the mains send bass to the sub while listening to stereo music but not for any 5.1 stuff. I also like how it has so many HDMI inputs which is a must with me having my Xbox 360, PS3, Xbox One, PS4, Wii U, Apple TV and PC all hooked up to it. Was considering waiting for the HDMI 2.0 refresh for future proofing but when I found out that none of the higher end receivers were coming out until later in the year from any of the manufacturers it kind of forced my hand.

All in all, I'm really glad I jumped ship from Onkyo to Pioneer. I was close to getting a 929 for a moment but with all the HDMI issues I've been having I changed my mind.

The one thing I wasn't much of a fan of was the MCACC auto calibration though. It made my system sound wimpy as all hell. Anyone else feel the same way about this?

One other thing it would've been nice to have on here would've been some kind of SPL reading for the volume control. I work in sound mixing for TV and am used to the SPL setting for reference levels and the -10.whatever dB readout doesn't really mean much to me.

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