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Dual video output: hdmi & component

I've got a BD player hooked up to the 7008 via HDMI. I have a TV hooked up via hdmi and a PJ via component. On the 7008 under Video/HDMI Setup> Video Output I have Auto(Dual) selected, but seeing video only on TV via HDMI. Under setup menu Video> Component Video Out> Component> Main Zone is selected also.

Am I missing a step somewhere to see video output on both displays?

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In order to have component video output, you must also have component video input.

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In order to have component video output, you must also have component video input.
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I just bought the SR6008 and got everything hooked up and set up. Everything is working properly except for one very annoying problem:


I have an LG Blu-Ray player plugged into the Blu-Ray HDMI input on the SR6008. When I choose Blu-Ray and the image from the LG Blu-Ray player appears on my TV (an LG TV that is connected via the HDMI monitor output on the SR6008), the image disappears every 10 to 20 seconds with the screen instead going black for a few seconds, then the image from the Blu-Ray player appears again. This continues to occur until a Blu-Ray movie actually starts playing or I start streaming a movie on Netflix (my Blu-Ray player is connected via Ethernet to my network and provides Netflix as an option when the Blu-Ray main screen appears on my tv). And because the screen continues to periodically go black for a few seconds while I'm trying to navigate movie and Netflix menu screens, it's difficult to properly navigate the screens when I can't see them sometimes for a few seconds (while the screen is black). It's kind of like having an uncontrollable screen saver.


Anyone else had this problem, know the cause and/or have a solution? I've tried using three different HDMI cables, but still had the same problem of intermittent black screen until a movie actually starts running.
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I just bought the SR6008 and got everything hooked up and set up. Everything is working properly except for one very annoying problem:


I have an LG Blu-Ray player plugged into the Blu-Ray HDMI input on the SR6008. When I choose Blu-Ray and the image from the LG Blu-Ray player appears on my TV (an LG TV that is connected via the HDMI monitor output on the SR6008), the image disappears every 10 to 20 seconds with the screen instead going black for a few seconds, then the image from the Blu-Ray player appears again. This continues to occur until a Blu-Ray movie actually starts playing or I start streaming a movie on Netflix (my Blu-Ray player is connected via Ethernet to my network and provides Netflix as an option when the Blu-Ray main screen appears on my tv). And because the screen continues to periodically go black for a few seconds while I'm trying to navigate movie and Netflix menu screens, it's difficult to properly navigate the screens when I can't see them sometimes for a few seconds (while the screen is black). It's kind of like having an uncontrollable screen saver.


Anyone else had this problem, know the cause and/or have a solution? I've tried using three different HDMI cables, but still had the same problem of intermittent black screen until a movie actually starts running.
Have you tried any other HDMI input on the receiver and tested the results?
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Have you tried any other HDMI input on the receiver and tested the results?

Yes, tried a couple of other inputs and had the same problem.
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The only reason I could think would be the cause is if the blu ray player's resolution is changing from menu to menu (I.e. If the LG blu ray logo is being displayed in 720p and the Netflix app is 1080p), it might take some time for the receiver to process the signal once the resolution changes. Do you notice that in the corner of the screen it shows different resolutions when the menus change?

I assume you are trying to rule out a bad HDMI board but I also assume this isn't happening on other sources...
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The only reason I could think would be the cause is if the blu ray player's resolution is changing from menu to menu (I.e. If the LG blu ray logo is being displayed in 720p and the Netflix app is 1080p), it might take some time for the receiver to process the signal once the resolution changes. Do you notice that in the corner of the screen it shows different resolutions when the menus change?

I assume you are trying to rule out a bad HDMI board but I also assume this isn't happening on other sources...
The screen going to black for a few seconds every 10 to 20 seconds is occurring while the original Blu-Ray menu screen is being displayed, not while trying to change menus. And you are correct that this is not happening with other sources using the SR6008's HDMI inputs.
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Does the Marantz SR5008 pass DSD through HDMI or does it decode it to PCM? Also how well does DVD-audio and SACD work in surround modes if I use a PM6005 as a pre-out/power amp to beef up stereo audio?

Also while I'm on a roll does the Denon AVRX3000 also encode DSD through HDMI??

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The X3000 and sister model SR6008 are the lowest 2013 D&M models that can pass DSD over HDMI. Unless you are using low impedance speakers at loud levels, the AVR should provide sufficient power for your 2CH listening.

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The X3000 and sister model SR6008 are the lowest 2013 D&M models that can pass DSD over HDMI. Unless you are using low impedance speakers at loud levels, the AVR should provide sufficient power for your 2CH listening.
So the SR5008 absolutely can't to it??
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The X3000 and sister model SR6008 are the lowest 2013 D&M models that can pass DSD over HDMI. Unless you are using low impedance speakers at loud levels, the AVR should provide sufficient power for your 2CH listening.
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This should be an easy one

Question is regarding the SR7008:

For many years I have been using TVs for nothing more than a monitor. Well I recently connected my current TV to the internet to make use of the web features on the TV. I have the TV connected to the AVR with HDMI using ports on both AVR and TV that are designated ARC. I read through the owners manual for the AVR and cannot find anything covering what I have to set the AVR to in order to hear the audio from the TV. On the AVR I use either CBL or BluRay as inputs to the AVR, but what is the input selection to hear the audio from the TV?

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Question is regarding the SR7008:

For many years I have been using TVs for nothing more than a monitor. Well I recently connected my current TV to the internet to make use of the web features on the TV. I have the TV connected to the AVR with HDMI using ports on both AVR and TV that are designated ARC. I read through the owners manual for the AVR and cannot find anything covering what I have to set the AVR to in order to hear the audio from the TV. On the AVR I use either CBL or BluRay as inputs to the AVR, but what is the input selection to hear the audio from the TV?

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On my SR5008, it is "TV Audio" but I'm using S/PDIF optical as I don't think my older TV supports ARC. Don't know if you need to reconfigure it to use ARC or not.
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Question is regarding the SR7008:

For many years I have been using TVs for nothing more than a monitor. Well I recently connected my current TV to the internet to make use of the web features on the TV. I have the TV connected to the AVR with HDMI using ports on both AVR and TV that are designated ARC. I read through the owners manual for the AVR and cannot find anything covering what I have to set the AVR to in order to hear the audio from the TV. On the AVR I use either CBL or BluRay as inputs to the AVR, but what is the input selection to hear the audio from the TV?

Thank you!
Roto,

Try the following steps if you want to implement ARC from the TV to the receiver. It involves enabling HDMI Control on in the AVR menu and for ARC on the TV. You need to do steps in order.

1) Turn on AVR then TV;
2) Turn on HDMI Control in AVR;
3) Turn on ARC/CEC function in TV;
4) Turn off TV and AVR; and
5) Turn on AVR first then TV.

Report back what you find, but you may have to choose audio system as sound output in TV menu. ARC is temperamental and needs everything turned on in the correct order for it to work. Others have given up on it due to TV manufacturers making it hard to play nice with other equipment manufacturers or found a workaround using a separate optical cable to the AVR.

If ARC/CEC goes wonky, just turn everything off. Unplug the Marantz from the power outlet for about 10 minutes+ and then power everything back up in order. Might have to implement the above steps again.

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So the SR5008 absolutely can't to it??
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Got a killer deal on the Marantz SR7008 from Accessoriesforless.com! Should arrive sometime this week and I can't wait. First time Marantz owner, long-time HT hobbyist.

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Hello "First time Marantz owner", I bought mine a couple of weeks ago (also my 1st Marantz product). I am enjoying mine a lot. But be sure to take enough time to let it run in. I think mine took 4-5 weeks to sound the way does now. Also, it runs quite hot (no fan internally), so keep enough space above it to get rid of the heat. The sound is smooth and somewhat laidback (at least with my speakers: Celestion 300's), but refined and nice to listen to for a long period of time. I also like the Audyssey-measurement and the resulting sound (which i only use for films; music it played through Pure Direct).

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Also, it runs quite hot (no fan internally), so keep enough space above it to get rid of the heat.
The SR7008 does have an internal 80mm fan mounted near the left side middle. It blows the air from left to right. However, it rarely comes on due to Marantz having the turn on temperature set too high IMO. I called Marantz about mine soon after I got it and the tech said 180 degrees was "normal". I strongly disagree and therefore purchased an thermostatically controlled external cooling fan set up that works great. I have links to the one I bought in some of my previous posts.
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Problem using 5008 for only center, sw, and surrounds

Hi this is my first post here, though I've lurked on AVS forums for years. I just purchased a 5008 to take my 2.1 system to 5.1. I was hoping to still run my bluray player directly to my 2ch tube preamp and into a pair of tube monoblock amps for FL and FR, as I always I have, for highest fidelity music listening, then run the other channels through the 5008. However, this creates a speaker syncing problem where the signal comes out the FL an FR a half-second before coming out of the other speakers.

Three solutions I've tried so far are:

1. Running it in Pure Direct mode. This reduces the sync delay, from maybe a half second to a quarter second, but the delay is still long enough to be very distracting.

2. Running all 5.1 channels out from the bluray player through the 5008, as well as running the hdmi through it, then running the 5008's FL and FR preamp out to my tube preamp. This solves the sync problem, but significantly reduces the sound quality, even in Pure Direct. (I guess the 5008 must be decoding the FL and FR instead of letting the bluray player decode.)

3. I've tried adjusting the delay settings in the bluray player (Oppo 83SE) to create a longer delay for the FL and FR, but the bluray player limits how much difference in delay I can set between speakers, and the difference isn't big enough.

Btw, I contacted Marantz customer support a week ago, and still no reply, other than the immediate robo-reply saying a real reply would follow.

Any ideas? Thanks.

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Tom, is accessories4less only refurbished units?
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Hi this is my first post here, though I've lurked on AVS forums for years. I just purchased a 5008 to take my 2.1 system to 5.1. I was hoping to still run my bluray player directly to my 2ch tube preamp and into a pair of tube monoblock amps for FL and FR, as I always I have, for highest fidelity music listening, then run the other channels through the 5008. However, this creates a speaker syncing problem where the signal comes out the FL an FR a half-second before coming out of the other speakers.

Three solutions I've tried so far are:

1. Running it in Pure Direct mode. This reduces the sync delay, from maybe a half second to a quarter second, but the delay is still long enough to be very distracting.

2. Running all 5.1 channels out from the bluray player through the 5008, as well as running the hdmi through it, then running the 5008's FL and FR preamp out to my tube preamp. This solves the sync problem, but significantly reduces the sound quality, even in Pure Direct. (I guess the 5008 must be decoding the FL and FR instead of letting the bluray player decode.)

3. I've tried adjusting the delay settings in the bluray player (Oppo 83SE) to create a longer delay for the FL and FR, but the bluray player limits how much difference in delay I can set between speakers, and the difference isn't big enough.

Btw, I contacted Marantz customer support a week ago, and still no reply, other than the immediate robo-reply saying a real reply would follow.

Any ideas? Thanks.

Tom

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Have you run Audyssey? If not do so. If yes, try decreasing the distance to the FL/FR speakers in Manual Setup.

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Thank you, jdsmoothie Yes, I ran Audyssey for the configuration when all 5.1 channels went through the 5008. That's why in that configuration there's no syncing problem. The problem is in my preferred configuration, where the FL an FR outs from the bluray avoid the 5008 completely, going direct to the 2ch preamp and onto the separate amps. Of course, Audyssey, or manual settings for that matter, cannot affect the FL and FR channels when I am running them outside the 5008. Note that that's the configuration I prefer because I don't want the 5008 in that path because it degrades sound quality.

So, I guess my question is: is there any setting I can adjust, or feature I can turn off, that will shorten the processing time in the 5008 so that the 5008 processed signals are as fast the non-5008-processed signals? For instance, is there a fast, true-analog pass-through for all channels?
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Tom, is accessories4less only refurbished units?

I had checked their site a few weeks ago, and also just checked them a moment ago, and the only Marantz SR7008 they have are refurbished units. I really did not want to go the refurbished route as my middle name should be Murphy. Meaning Murphy's Law that something wrong could happen and it seems to usually happen to me. I've heard that many people have purchased refurbished units with excellent results. But there have been some who have had bad luck as well.


Originally I looked at Pioneer/ Pioneer Elites as that's all I've had over the years. I loved their warm sound for music, and they last forever. I still have a 20 + year old Pioneer Elite in my home office that I use for music hooked up to an pair of 25 year old Advent Legacy speakers. But the Pioneer MAACC system is outdated and with Marantz having Audyssey MultEQ XT32, I wanted Marantz as I always have heard that they are great for music. My unit I'm replacing is an Onkyo 875. Great for movies, but HORRIBLE for music. Not to mention that you could fry an egg on top of it. I solved that problem long ago by hooking up a computer fan and placing directly over the hottest place on top of the unit. It barely gets warm. The fan is about 4 inched across and turns about 150 PRM. No noise at all, even if there is no audio coming from the receiver, and it works great. Check out The Cooler Guys for cooling accessories. Oh, and my receiver sits on top of my rack. So not enclosed in any way what so ever.




I decided to purchase new, but had to find an authorized dealer with a great price. Unfortunately, Best Buy Magnolia, Onecall, Amazon and Crutchfield still had high prices on the 7008 even though the 7009 came out. Then after reading his many, many, many posts in Denon and Marantz threads, I contacted jdsmoothie. He is an authorized dealer for many brands including Marantz, so you'll still get your full 3 year factory warranty. He beat all of the companies that I have previously mentioned by a large amount, saving me big $$$, and that was including shipping and tax.


I've only had my SR7008 hooked up for a few days, but I immediately noticed that my music has come back to life. My Paradigm Studio 100 V.5's have never, and I mean never sounded better as I bought them when I had the Onkyo 875. So, for music, the Marantz SR7008 kicks ass, and the movies sound terrific too. I have yet to watch a full movie, but I did test the 7008 for home theater by watching various clips on both the newer Star Trek movies, Fast Five and the newer Total Recall. The Audyssey MultEQ XT32 perfectly EQ'ed my SVS PB12+ sub and my system has never sounded better.

So, my 2 cents worth, buy new, not a refurbished unit. And I highly recommend that you contact jdsmoothie. I'm very glad that I did. And I highly recommend that you get the Marantz SR7008. But if you don't, at least get a receiver that has Audyssey MultEQ XT32. It's worth the few extra $$$.




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Thank you, jdsmoothie Yes, I ran Audyssey for the configuration when all 5.1 channels went through the 5008. That's why in that configuration there's no syncing problem. The problem is in my preferred configuration, where the FL an FR outs from the bluray avoid the 5008 completely, going direct to the 2ch preamp and onto the separate amps. Of course, Audyssey, or manual settings for that matter, cannot affect the FL and FR channels when I am running them outside the 5008. Note that that's the configuration I prefer because I don't want the 5008 in that path because it degrades sound quality.

So, I guess my question is: is there any setting I can adjust, or feature I can turn off, that will shorten the processing time in the 5008 so that the 5008 processed signals are as fast the non-5008-processed signals? For instance, is there a fast, true-analog pass-through for all channels?
professortripp,

Have you considered the following configuration from your Oppo blu-ray player?

(1) 83SE HDMI out ---> Marantz SR5008 ---> external amp
(2) 83SE analogue out ---> tube pre-amp ---> external amp

Your external amp would need to have a manual switch to select between the Marantz and tube pre-amp. Something like this: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0032ANC8M/...I36MQYCSRPAXO8

On the Oppo BDP-93, there is speaker configuration page where distance and level settings can be made for the analogue output section. Think you should have something similar for the 83SE. On the Marantz SR5008, copy Audyssey settings for the correct levels and distances of FL and FR speakers across to the Oppo.

With HDMI connection to the SR5008, you have a choice of using Audyssey REQ in stereo mode. Compare that to DIRECT/PURE DIRECT mode as well as to item (2) on which sound you prefer.

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Thank you, jdsmoothie Yes, I ran Audyssey for the configuration when all 5.1 channels went through the 5008. That's why in that configuration there's no syncing problem. The problem is in my preferred configuration, where the FL an FR outs from the bluray avoid the 5008 completely, going direct to the 2ch preamp and onto the separate amps. Of course, Audyssey, or manual settings for that matter, cannot affect the FL and FR channels when I am running them outside the 5008. Note that that's the configuration I prefer because I don't want the 5008 in that path because it degrades sound quality.

So, I guess my question is: is there any setting I can adjust, or feature I can turn off, that will shorten the processing time in the 5008 so that the 5008 processed signals are as fast the non-5008-processed signals? For instance, is there a fast, true-analog pass-through for all channels?
Ah, so then I misunderstood your first post. As a minimum an AVR requires the FL/FR speakers so you would need to include them connected to the AVR when running Audyssey. You would then disconnect from the AVR and connect them to the external amp. The distances to the remaining speakers (C/SL/SR) can be adjusted up to 60' in order to speed up the signal to them.

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I'm still having the issue with the PVR. Anyone have any ideas?
I have also hazy picture with CBL/SAT and when I go to menu (Marantz SR6008) and change settings and exit menu the picture will be with good contrast again.

Henningh, have You find the solution?
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