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Afraid this has been a hard and expensive lesson for you.
Hopefully not. I tried again and got a much more receptive CSR. He asked me to send them a pdf of my receipt and he'd "pass it up the line" and see what they can do.

Honestly, they do have some responsibility (as do I - yes, I know I probably should have tested it back when I got it). They sold me a dud AVR. A good company, concerned with its reputation and who valued its long-time, repeat customers, would stand behind its product, reduced refurb warranty or not. We'll see what kind of company Marantz is. I'll post back with the results when I hear something.
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can you please expand upon this? If he uses the same speaker cable and banana posts/jacks on both sides where can the impedance mismatch happen that is different from a pro doing it? I ask because I am building my HT now and thinking of using the under stairs area for all AV equipment with the front showing through the side. I was considering running speaker cable from wall jack back to another wall jack in closet and then making short (1-2') jumpers to back to AV equipment. I was concerned about having more connections but not due to impedance; more do to every point of connection is a potential point of failure/interference. Thanks
Hi zoepup,

I used the words "impedance mis-match" thinking back to electrical circuit theory. This may have caused a concern and appologies for this. You are correct in thinking my concerns are related to potential points of failure within the circuit with each 'break' such as the pig tail, wall jack, in wall cable + any other connectors along the circuit.

If any of these components within the circuit are not properly installed or perhaps loose, it will increase the overall circuit impedance as seen by the amp.

The wire gauge, conducting material should be the same for each component within the circuit - this is not always the case. It doesn't really matter that much for short distances, provided one is sensible in choicing the right components.

Since you intend to have a number of section breaks within the circuit, if you have a digital multi-meter, best to measure the overall impedance of the circuit. The goal is to ensure that circuit impedance is significantly less than (by serveral orders in magnitude) the lowest impedance of your speaker. Check with your speaker manufacturer on the freqeuncy vs. impedance response curve. This will ensure that the full voltage is seen at the terminals of the speaker and the loss across the rest of the circuit from the amp onwards is neglible.

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I should mention, I have had a professional wire impedance matching volume knobs for zone 2 and 3. Not sure if this changes anything. I was only proposing a wall plate - or I can do keystone jacks to make connection and disconnection (if necessary) more easy. Can you hotswap speaker cables when a receiver is on, or this a bad idea?
Hot swapping speaker cables is generally a bad idea. You want to switch the power OFF before touching any potential live circuit and avoid any shock hazard.


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I guess this is what I am unclear on. I have no front speakers right now. Can I use my in-ceiling (directly above) as my 2.0 front left and right, my kitchen as zone 2 and my outdoor as zone 3 until I get tower speakers? Or is zone 3 unpowered? I was planning on getting an Emotiva amp (not sure which one) to power the 3rd zone when I get real zone 1 speakers. Will Audyssey figure out that I am using speakers above and adjust for it? I am really not too worried about tweaking things right now if I can just get things running properly.

Alternatively, can the 4 in-ceiling speakers be put in one zone and the outdoor pair in the second? If that means the inside speakers are playing the same audio, I guess that's no biggie until I can get a separate amp.



Zone 1 in ceiling are directly above MLP, Zone 2 are behind, in the kitchen as diagrammed. I have not done any other pre-wiring for fronts or surrounds. I figured the in-ceiling above MLP would transition to rear surround in a 5.1 setup.

Loudness? I doubt I will crank anything above normal listening, maybe turn it up once in awhile, but not neighbourhood shaking-loud, especially considering these are very basic speakers.
As jdsmoothie advise, the SR7008 has internally 9 amplifiers. So you should be able to do a 5.1 configuration for the main zone, a 2.0 stereo for Zone 2 and 2.0 stereo for Zone 3. My mistake in thinking the SR7008 had 7 amps internally and you need an external set of amps.

Follow jdsmoothie's recommendation for what you want to do. Based on what you said, my understanding of your setup is as follows.

main zone in the living /dining room. 2 in ceiling speakers.
Zone 2 in the kitchen. 2 in ceiling speakers,
Zone 3 in the outdoors. 2 speakers.

Since you've got just 6 speakers that need power, the 9 internal amps of the SR7008 can drive them.

If you're concerned about sound quality in the main zone, make sure the speakers are setup with the right angles as shown in the owners manual and reproduced below.

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Solution to "low volume" for network sources bug

Hi,

Only two months after buying a brand new Marantz SR5008, the volume for any of the network sources (DLNA, internet radio, etc.) dropped dramatically. Where previously normal levels of 20-40 were used, suddenly I had to crank it up to 60-80. Other sources like HDMI audio from the TV, analog CD player, etc. remained unchanged.

I tried doing a factory reset, power off for 30 minutes, a couple of more factory resets, but the problem remained.

Looking on the Internet, I discovered I was not the only one having this issue. Finally, I found the solution on a Denon related forum (the Denon's have the same issue), but as we all know the close relationship between the two, I applied the exact same solution to my Marantz and yes, the problem is solved!

Solution:

1) Go download the latest firmware from the marantz support website: http://firmware.marantz.eu/
2) Follow the instructions to update the firmware through a USB dongle (I previously already did a network firmware update, but this didn't fix the problem - and there has to be an update to do this )
3) Don't forget to do a cpu reset by pressing Channel+ and Channel- while powering on the device (is also part of the instructions).

The whole process took about 45 minutes, but it saved me a trip to the shop, wait 3 weeks for Marantz service to do this, go back to the shop, re-install all my wires and cables, etc.

Remarks:

I have only discovered this yesterday, so I do not know whether the bug is actually fixed in the firmware, or that the whole updating process truly resets the whole receiver in way that the normal factory reset does not. The firmware release notes do not state anything related to this particular bug...

It would be very helpful to know exactly why the receiver suddenly drops its volume for network sources in order to avoid the problem (assuming that the firmware does not already fixes it).

Hopefully this will help other people with the same issue...

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Hi all,

I have an SR5008 and I am having this same problem. For whatever reason, the volume of the inputs via Network are far lower than other inputs, so I find myself cranking the volume up on the receiver. In fact, when I play music through Airplay, the receiver caps the volume at 75 (the volume is at 100% on the volume control in Itunes). I wasn't able to download the firmware update as instructed above because I live in North America; however, I did do all software updates directly on the receiver.

I have checked the "Volume Limit" and it is off. I have also gone to "Source Level" in inputs and this was at 0 (although I have since increased this to offset the low volumes).

Any ideas? Thanks.
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Since most stores are clearing out their *008 stocks (in Canada and I can get a good deal 'relatively speaking') I'm thinking of picking up the 7008. I have a Denon X1000 running with 5.1 set up. Is it worth while upgrade moving up to SR7008 from the X1000 in terms of pure audio quality?
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Yes .. but I wouldn't do it unless you can use the additional features as well or unless you can't upgrade your speakers or add another sub.
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Hi all,

I have an SR5008 and I am having this same problem. For whatever reason, the volume of the inputs via Network are far lower than other inputs, so I find myself cranking the volume up on the receiver. In fact, when I play music through Airplay, the receiver caps the volume at 75 (the volume is at 100% on the volume control in Itunes). I wasn't able to download the firmware update as instructed above because I live in North America; however, I did do all software updates directly on the receiver.

I have checked the "Volume Limit" and it is off. I have also gone to "Source Level" in inputs and this was at 0 (although I have since increased this to offset the low volumes).

Any ideas? Thanks.
Hi rgood,

Do you have a test source such as the AIX records audio calibration disc and an inexpensive hand held Sound Pressure Level meter?

What you can do is check the SPL levels are about 75dB at the Main Listening Position (MLP) from two separate places. You would need to adjust the Main Volume on to carry this out. You would be using the pink noise test tracks.

(1) through your blu-ray player and the test tracks; and
(2) through your PC and streaming the test tracks.

Be sure both test places are set to unity gain. If both places show 75dB at the MLP, then the Marantz is correctly doing the decoding and volume control.

If the difference is greater than the error on your hand held SPL meter, then further investigation needs to be carried out.

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Since most stores are clearing out their *008 stocks (in Canada and I can get a good deal 'relatively speaking') I'm thinking of picking up the 7008. I have a Denon X1000 running with 5.1 set up. Is it worth while upgrade moving up to SR7008 from the X1000 in terms of pure audio quality?

JD always gives good advice, but I think it might be a pretty good upgrade regardless. It's a much higher end receiver than the 1000. Among other things, you would be going from Audyssey MultiEQ to XT-32, two steps up, and the top of the Audyssey line. The room EQ alone would be a pretty big upgrade. If the price is good enough, and the AVR is affordable, it might be a pretty good investment. You never know when you might want to add speakers later, too.
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SR6008 amplifier thoughts/advice

Hi,
I have a SR6008 with a pair of Klipsch RF82 II's for my mains and (2) Klipsch RW12D subs. I was lucky and recieved a email from Polk audio with a code for the friends & family 50% off sale recently and purchased a center channel speaker and a pair of surrounds.
Center-Polk CSiA6
Surrounds-Polk FXiA6


I figured since I was going to be making the connections for the new Polks it would be a good time to go all out and purchase a 2chan. stereo amplifier so I have more headroom when listening to music. These are a couple I have been looking at:

1) Marantz MM7025 which has 140watts per chan. @ 8ohms. http://us.marantz.com/us/Products/Pa...oductId=MM7025

2) Emotiva XPA-2 which is 300watts per chan. @ 8 ohms.
https://emotiva.com/products/amplifiers/xpa-2


Any thoughts or advice would be appreciated. Perhaps you know of a different amp etc. I would like to keep the price around a grand give or take.

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JD always gives good advice, but I think it might be a pretty good upgrade regardless. It's a much higher end receiver than the 1000. Among other things, you would be going from Audyssey MultiEQ to XT-32, two steps up, and the top of the Audyssey line. The room EQ alone would be a pretty big upgrade. If the price is good enough, and the AVR is affordable, it might be a pretty good investment. You never know when you might want to add speakers later, too.
Thanks for the advice. That's what I'm thinking - to future proof myself a little bit and get this unit. I don't foresee using Dolby Atmos for the next few years (if ever), however I can see adding another SVS PB-1000 to the one I already have, so having the sub-eq along with XT-32 sounds worthwhile for me. I don't like that Denon/Marantz don't offer a receiver in their line up with XT-32 but not Atmos and we have to pay the premium for Atmos just so we could have the XT-32 feature. The previous generation is the only lineup we have to fall back on just to have XT-32.
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A Klipsch center (eg. RC-62) would be a much better match for proper timbre matching of the front speakers with your RF-82's which are actually quite efficient and unlikely to require any additional amplification even after adding the 3 additional speakers.

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Thanks for the advice. That's what I'm thinking - to future proof myself a little bit and get this unit. I don't foresee using Dolby Atmos for the next few years (if ever), however I can see adding another SVS PB-1000 to the one I already have, so having the sub-eq along with XT-32 sounds worthwhile for me. I don't like that Denon/Marantz don't offer a receiver in their line up with XT-32 but not Atmos and we have to pay the premium for Atmos just so we could have the XT-32 feature. The previous generation is the only lineup we have to fall back on just to have XT-32.

You are very welcome! I agree with you. I was thinking yesterday that since I have no interest in Atmos, I am likely to keep my 7008 for several years to come.
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