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post #1 of 14 Old 07-19-2013, 01:26 AM - Thread Starter
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Hi My Name is Randy and i am Moving to a new house soon where I will Have no Neighbors !! I have lived in a upstairs apt for 8 Years and now I'll be able to have my "TUNES" Back !!! So I went out and purchased all of this:

2-Polk Audio RTI-12's
1- CSI5 Polk center channel
2-infinity qps-1 quadrapole surrounds
1-Theater solutions sub15d 600w

I have narrowed my research on a receiver I like but I am unsure what model to choose ..I dont know if the Yamaha RX-A830 will have enough power to run my RTi12's .. it claims 110w per channel.. but i wondered if anyone had this speaker config and has tried it ?
how much power do I need per channel ?
I will want to Bi-amp the RTI12's
Never had a setup like this before so any help would be greatly appreciated

I am locked in on wanting a AVENTAGE receiver but want to get one that fits the power requirements I should have...
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I was in the military for many years and know the feeling, I lived in a dorm for many years and was so stoked when I bought my first home as I had been collecting a large stereo system and was finally able to play it without worrying about bothering my dorm mates. couple of questions; what is your budget, how large is the room you are setting the above up in, and what are your listening preferences? You also have to factor in budget. If you can, get the highest model you can, I run a RX-A3010 in a 24'X18' room with no issues, and my wife has a 12'X12' room running a RX-A3010 with Polk RTi8, RSi5 surround and RCi4 center and in both situations getting to reference is a ear bleeding experience and both systems don't run out of gas. Now I added external amps to my system just for the extra headroom if needed but I still only listen to it at +38 at the loudest (even though older recordings do require more volume due to the way they were recorded, i.e. Van Halen, Motley Crue ect.) You also look to run two subs, so to get the best results for YPAO you will need to go with the RX-AXX20 or RX-AXX30 series to get the benefit of YPAO setting up the subs correctly. You can go with the RX-A830 if in the future you do plan to add external amplification as I do believe that model has pre outs.

Hope this helps and happy listening

P.S. I do have the CX-A5000 on preorder as I am going back to separates but that is a different story

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Those Polks have a 90 dB efficiency rating. The A830 will drive them easily. And as smitty wrote, you can add an external amp in the future should you need one.

By the way, you won't hear any improvement when bi-amping from one receiver. You might fool yourself into thinking that it sounds better, but more likely all you're doing is doubling your speaker cables.

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I fully agree with JBWIII above, as I have "Been there, Done That" when it comes to bi-amping and there is absolutely no benefit. This conclusion is based on using a SPL meter before and after bi-amping the same speakers and there is no difference. I also tried the Bi-amping on the wifes polks with the same conclusion. The only way bi-amping may provide any benefit is if you utilize and tweek an active crossover unit/parametric equalizer and set the crossover points manually before the signal is sent to the amplifiers thereby sending dedicated trebble and bass to the appropriate speaker inputs and even doing this YMMV at best.

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if you can stepup to a 1030 it's a better receiver better dac and amp. rti 12 typically want a lot of juice(you may want seperate amp at some point) but watt wise you won't see much diffrence between the 1030 and 830. I have and advantage 820 so report back how they play on that.
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Hi Randy...I don't know what your budget is but for what it's worth Amazon is selling the 3010 at 30% off list. I just bought one and its is a great receiver. If you don't like it you can take advantage of Amazon's excellent return policy.
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Thank you everyone for your suggestions ! I am currently searching for a aventage 1030
Will repost after I get it to let you all know how it worked out !
Thanks again !!
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Former USMC !! Oooooohhh rahh !! Semper Fi !!
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The reason I wanted to biamp is for the front height in 3d audio signal I read that it will add to my "3d experience "
Or is that all just BS ?
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What does biamping have to do with the front height speakers? They can't be biamped to my knowledge.

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I think you may be confused by the manual, if you set bi-amp in the amplifier settings menu, the front/rear heights outputs are used for bi-aping hence they are not available. In my experience using a RX-A3010 you would set the amplifier settings to "Basic" and set front height speakers to "Use" then connect them to the appropriate speaker posts. I utilize the front height speakers and they add the 3d experience I believe you are looking for.

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i guess i just thought if i biamped it would simulate the effect that you get with front height speakers.. im a noob .. im just learning ..
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so after realizing its gonna take so long to save for my AVENTAGE i decided i couldnt wait to hear my system so i found a Sony STRDN1030 for 300$ brand new in the box on craigslist so im picking it up tmrw ..i will save for a Aventage and get the one i REALLY want ! The 3030 !!
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All I can say is WOW !!!! I love Polk audio!!!!! My RTi 12's are "the ****" ...
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Recently I located 4 fxi5's for 160$ !!! now i'm so stoked to set up in my new house its killing me ! here is my updated list of home theater gear..

Mitsubishi 73" dlp 3d ready 1080p
Playstation 3:D
Sony strdn 1030
fronts-2 polk rti12's
Center- 1 polk csi5
side-2 fxi5's
rear -2 fxi5's
sub-theater solutions sub15(600w -15" down-firing)

still holding out for my Yamaha rxa2030 9.2 ch for side surround with bi-amped fronts

also I just ordered my 3d glasses and emitter from dimensional optics:D:eek:
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