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I am in the process of getting a basic home theater setup in our living room. The setup will be a basic 5.1 with all in-ceilings and a M&K Sub. I will be sending the source to a Pioner PDP-5020FD. The main video sources are the DirecTV Genie (HR-34) and Pioneer BDP-51FD. I also have a Toshiba HD-XA1 that I may hook up as well as an Apple TV (Gen 1). This will more than likely be a gift for my Birthday so I am looking to stay ~$300 and bellow. Frys Electronics here in Houston is having some killer sales right now and am kind of indecisive as that last receiver I owned was a Yamaha RX-V2500.

I am looking for something that will run this setup adequately and provide a little bit of future proofing. The receivers that I am looking for help on are:

Onkyo TX-NR414 the attractiveness of the receiver is $189 price point, but the lack of auto speaker setup (I have a dB meter and know how to manually balance, so not a huge deal breaker) and the dated looking on-screen display seem archaic. Also, all the issues Onkyo has been having scares me.

Pioneer VSX-1022-K ($249.99) I've never owned a Pioneer receiver before and haven't heard much good about them other than the Elites being great units.

Harmon Kardon AVR 700 honestly the $217 is the only thing that caused me to look at it.

Denon AVR-1613 ($329) the most expensive and seems to be a highly regarded receiver for the price point.

Yamaha RX-V375 ($249) I've always been a Yamaha die-hard but am wanting to try another brand unless this is best bang for the buck.

Onkyo TX-NR515 ($249) Only downfall is they are open-box

I know I listed a lot but I'm just trying to get the best bang for the buck here. I liked the auto setup of YPAO my old Yamaha offered but the fact it didn't setup the sub like the Audyssey MultiEQ does on the Denon makes the Denon very attractive. Let me know what you guys think and if I need to elaborate on anything let me know. I appreciate the help.
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With a budget like that you may want to consider buying refurbished. The Denon 1913 is a pretty decent receiver. It uses Audyssey MultEq for room correction - it works well and is more reliable than the Onkyo. If you could stretch the budget a bit more you might like the Yamaha HTR-7065. Its the clone of the well received Yamaha A820 minus a few external features and 5wpc or so in power. Not enough to worry about.

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Thanks for the reply. Refurbished is not a problem with me but I want to pick up locally, not order. The 1913 was never a consideration as its $579 unless your referring to a refurb 1913. The 7065 refurbished is $799. $300 is honestly my top price as I don't think I can push for more.

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Personally I think Onkyo's are great. That is, when they work. To me they have longevity problems and, I've become gun shy over them. My 707 lasted two years and, is now, a paperweight. While it worked it was great. The 616 lasted a week. Luckily I could return it. So, for me, I would cross that off the List. But that's me. I use the Receiver for entertainment purposes and I hate problems. Defeats the purpose.
HK I know nothing about. Never really caught my attention.
Denon I like. Had a 1913 and loved that. If its too expensive I like the 1713.
Pioneer, except for the Elite, which are expensive in Canada, I've never really liked.
I love the Yamaha's for longevity and sound. Plus I've never had a HDMI handshake problem or anything ever go wrong.

Bang for the Buck I would personally buy the Yamaha 373 or 375 (which is discrete, this year). My second choice would be Denon, mainly for the Audssey calibration.

Remember that in the budget category, if equally calibrated, nearly all the Receivers are similar. So choose one with the best options and go for it. Most of these opinions are subjective. Yours will probably differ. Get a shop that allows returns. Choose two or three and try them. That's what I do.
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Thanks for the reply. Refurbished is not a problem with me but I want to pick up locally, not order. The 1913 was never a consideration as its $579 unless your referring to a refurb 1913. The 7065 refurbished is $799. $300 is honestly my top price as I don't think I can push for more.

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If you click on the link I supplied for the HTR-7065 you'll see the price isn't close to $799 - more like $389.

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Since you have a Fry's close buy why not look at the Denon E400? Its on sale for $299 until closing tonite. Its basically the equvalent to last years 1913.

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_033AVRE400/Denon-AVR-E400.html?tp=179

http://slickdeals.net/f/6161714-Denon-AVR-E400-7-1-Channel-4K-and-3D-Pass-Through-Networking-Home-Theater-Receiver-with-AirPlay-for-299-99-at-Frys-FS

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If you click on the link I supplied for the HTR-7065 you'll see the price isn't close to $799 - more like $389.

Sorry, I didn't see the links and was basing the price off of what I can get locally as I don't want to order.
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Since you have a Fry's close buy why not look at the Denon E400? Its on sale for $299 until closing tonite. Its basically the equvalent to last years 1913.

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_033AVRE400/Denon-AVR-E400.html?tp=179

http://slickdeals.net/f/6161714-Denon-AVR-E400-7-1-Channel-4K-and-3D-Pass-Through-Networking-Home-Theater-Receiver-with-AirPlay-for-299-99-at-Frys-FS

Shows up as $599, also as my Birthday is tomorrow I won't be picking this up until tomorrow or this weekend at the earliest.
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Shows up as $599, also as my Birthday is tomorrow I won't be picking this up until tomorrow or this weekend at the earliest.

Hi jvcjb, Happy Birthday! Just call 877-688-7678 to order and pick it up tomorrow.
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The sale ends tonite and it is definitely $299 in store. I was in my local Fry's 2 days ago and the slickdeals thread I linked earlier confirms it.

There will be a new Fry's sale starting Friday. Most likely different receivers will be on sale.

As for future proofing you cant expect much of that for $300. Receiver features change year to year and you cant really predict what is coming down the pipe.

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The sale ends tonite and it is definitely $299 in store. I was in my local Fry's 2 days ago and the slickdeals thread I linked earlier confirms it.

There will be a new Fry's sale starting Friday. Most likely different receivers will be on sale.

As for future proofing you cant expect much of that for $300. Receiver features change year to year and you cant really predict what is coming down the pipe.

Gotcha, it shows up as $599 with the link you posted so I was just mentioning that. Either way looks like I will miss out on this deal as I don't have the money yet. The cash for the receiver is coming as a birthday gift, maybe tomorrow there will be something better or equivalent.
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The first link I posted was from Crutchfield so that you can see all the features.

The new ad is already out. Looks like the the Onkyo TX-NR616 is on sale for $349.
http://www.frys.com/ads/page4#AdNavi

you can look at the feature set here.
http://www.onkyousa.com/Products/model.php?m=TX-NR616&class=Receiver&source=prodClass

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The first link I posted was from Crutchfield so that you can see all the features.

The new ad is already out. Looks like the the Onkyo TX-NR616 is on sale for $349.
http://www.frys.com/ads/page4#AdNavi

you can look at the feature set here.
http://www.onkyousa.com/Products/model.php?m=TX-NR616&class=Receiver&source=prodClass

The AVR-1613 is still $329 which is good. The Onkyo scares me because of the HDMI issues.
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The 1613 for $329 is fair at best. Now that the E300 is out the 1613 should start going on clearance soon.

I actually got my 1613 for $138 Thanksgiving weekend. Its never been that low again but I bet it goes down to $199-$229 in the upcoming months.

The Denon e300 was $199 at Fry's 10 days ago and the E400 $299 until Thursday night. They'll come on sale again if you can wait.

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The 1613 for $329 is fair at best. Now that the E300 is out the 1613 should start going on clearance soon.

I actually got my 1613 for $138 Thanksgiving weekend. Its never been that low again but I bet it goes down to $199-$229 in the upcoming months.

The Denon e300 was $199 at Fry's 10 days ago and the E400 $299 until Thursday night. They'll come on sale again if you can wait.

That's a killer price. It would be a no brainer if I could get it for that price. I meant $329 is good in the fact it didn't go full price.
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Costco sells the 1613 for $299.

http://www.costco.com/Denon-AVR-1613-5.1-Channel-Network-AV-Receiver.product.100058297.html

Nice! With Bestbuy's new price match policy I will be sure to shop around before pulling the trigger. This might even open up receivers I've not considered before, like the E400 or E300 or X1000. Are one of these that much better than the 1613 (take price out of it). I know the E400 is 7.1 (don't need that) but the x1000 offers Audyssey MultEQ XT wihch none of the others do.
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the E300 is pretty much the same as the 1613. 5.1 with Audyssey MultEQ

The E400 replaced the 1913. Both are 7.1 with Audyssey MultEQ

the X1000 replaced the 1713, both are 5.1 and have Audyssey MultEQ XT

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Check your local best buy as well. I just picked up a Yamaha 473 for $199 on clearance. You can check your local stores clearance and open boxes online now.
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I will check for sure. I'm hoping that whatever I end up with I can price match and pick it up at Best Buy so I don't have to drive an hour to Frys.
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So my situation has changed for the better. I am looking for the best receiver around $500 that has at least Audyssey MultEQ. I would like to buy from either Best Buy or Frys for speed and simplicity of returning/exchanging in the rare event something fails. Unless someone proves otherwise I'm wanting to stay away from Onkyo because of all of the HDMI issues I'm reading about. I'm thinking Denon may be my only choice as Yamaha's YPAO doesn't EQ the sub on a receiver in my price range. Thoughts?
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So my situation has changed for the better. I am looking for the best receiver around $500 that has at least Audyssey MultEQ. I would like to buy from either Best Buy or Frys for speed and simplicity of returning/exchanging in the rare event something fails. Unless someone proves otherwise I'm wanting to stay away from Onkyo because of all of the HDMI issues I'm reading about. I'm thinking Denon may be my only choice as Yamaha's YPAO doesn't EQ the sub on a receiver in my price range. Thoughts?

You want a Denon?

1713
1913
2113CI
E400
X1000

All sound like they would suit your needs...

Best Buy has the xx13 series receivers on clearance. If you google "Best Buy Open Box" you can search "your store" to find out what they have. I picked up a 1713 for $260 a couple weeks ago.
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Local Best Buy has Marantz SR5007 for $468 (missing remote and software and antennas) and a Denon AVR1713 for $259 the other Best Buy (have 6 in a 10 mile radius) has the 1713 for $232
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WOW! as I'm branching out I'm seeing an amazing selection... 2113CI for $373. Thank you for the recommendation I know about Open Box and clearance but haven't thought about searching that.
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Here is the receivers that are sticking out and am wondering what is the best deal for the money.

Marantz SR5007 $498.99

Denon AVR-2313CI $499.86

Denon AVR-2113CI $373.99

Denon AVR-1713 $215.99 / $259.86

Denon AVR-1913 $289.99

Considering all of these have Audyssey MultEQ XT is it worth spending the difference between the 1713 or 1913 for the 2113CI or is it overkill knowing I'll never be able to install 7.1 due to room constraints and the additional add-ons might go unused?
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Ended up getting the AVR-1913 today for $299 NIB. Couldn't pass up the deal. Kind of bummed it doesn't have MultEQ XT but it still seems like a great piece for the money.
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Ended up getting the AVR-1913 today for $299 NIB. Couldn't pass up the deal. Kind of bummed it doesn't have MultEQ XT but it still seems like a great piece for the money.

That's a great price, BUT if you didn't need 7.1 you probably would have been better served with the 1713 (since it has XT)
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That's a great price, BUT if you didn't need 7.1 you probably would have been better served with the 1713 (since it has XT)

I don't need 7.1 but the lack of component connections kept me from driving back to the store and exchanging for a NIB 1713 for $50 less. I can't wrap my head around why they didn't make the 1913 XT enabled like the 1713. I understand about the extra channels and DSP chip size requirements but you would have thought they would have accommodated for that. The 2nd zone capability opens up options for me down the road since I plan on doing a covered patio at some point and the backyard is off of the living room.
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