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I apologize if this has been covered. I did try to search first. I found one old thread that was probably quite helpful when it was current.

Having been out of the receiver market for a while, I need some help figuring out which model lines would be suitable. I have no loyalty to a particular brand, but my experience with a Sony receiver from 2001 or so wasn't the best. Still...I would not rule even Sony out. Maybe their current products are better?

What I am really hoping to find is a quick reference to various AVR manufacturers' model lines. I don't really have a good starting point for my search for my next AVR.

My budget is limited to about $400-700, but I am willing to shop for sales or open box items, or even wait a bit if a unit that would be perfect for me is a bit out of my price range right now.

Priorities:

Good, clean sound
5.1 channels minimum
3D pass through
Robust construction
4 HDMI inputs minimum
Supports streaming from Android and/or Apple
Robust speaker wire binding posts--preferably banana clip compatible

"Nice to haves":

Wireless networking
Smartphone/tablet remote controllable
Additional surround channels
4K pass through for future-proofing
Second subwoofwer output

Any thoughts?
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Your requirements can be met by the vast majority of AVRs on the market released in the last couple of years. For more information on the Denon line check both the 2012 and 2013 threads linked in my sig, reviewing post #2 which provides a comparison of the various models in each year group. The Marantz models are going to marry up fairly close with their Denon cousins as both brands are owned by the same parent company D&M.
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Thanks very much. I'll read those posts ASAP.

My problem has been that when I look at the forum what I see mostly is a whole lot of owners threads for various model series with no price talk allowed--and I have no idea how current the models are. That, or threads comparing two models under consideration for purchase.

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Hi Kevin

With your $400 - $700 budget range and your questions, I think you'll find this Audioholics article helpful: http://www.audioholics.com/buying-guides/how-to-shop/best-budget-receiver-2013. The comparison chart looks to cover most of the features you're looking for as well. These are all current/2013 models, so it should help you a lot in identifying current model numbers. Another place to start is the individual AVR manufacturer's websites.

If you wanted to spend closer to your $700 limit, you'd generally look to a bigger number than shown in the article; eg. Denon AVR-X2000 or Onkyo TX-NR626. Both these give you the extra two rear channels.

From the A/H comparison, it's a close call but the Denon AVR-X1000 (or X2000 for RRP $700) would be my pick for you, mainly by virtue of having the higher tier implementation of Audyssey (your best bet for good, clean sound) and secondly, for Airplay and the 3 year warranty. The Onkyo TX-NR525 or 626 (RRP $600) would be a close second, due to a lower tier version of Audyssey and no Airplay. The Onkyo only betters the Denon in your "nice to have" WiFi and 4K passthrough. The second sub output is not really an issue at this level of AVR, as it would simply be an internal splitter feeding the same signal to both jacks - a Y splitter cable achieves the same thing.

BTW, this is an interesting thread (link) that discusses 4K "support" in AVR's.

Good luck with your research!
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Newegg has the Yamaha RX-V773WA for $700. It has everything you need
including the Wi-Fi. Many independent websites are ranking Yamaha at the
top recently, including that Audioholics link. I bought this new there 3 months
ago for $480 shipped. It is due to go on sale again soon.
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Newegg has the Yamaha RX-V773WA for $700. It has everything you need
including the Wi-Fi. Many independent websites are ranking Yamaha at the
top recently, including that Audioholics link.
I bought this new there 3 months
ago for $480 shipped. It is due to go on sale again soon.

"... that Audioholics link" didn't exactly do that ^

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Can you please provide links to some of the "Many independent websites"?


If we're now not talking RRP, Crutchfield have an open box Denon AVR - X2000 (link) for $585. Very good value IMO.
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The only brand I am biased against is Sony. Cnet has them #1 mainly
because they come with Bluetooth and Wi-Fi for free. Everybody else
makes you pay extra for those plugins. The 773WA has everything except
Bluetooth, including full preamp out.

I also avoid Onkyo after my 1007 hdmi board got so hot I turned off my furnace.
They burn up pretty fast. I have a Denon 4311 and hooked up 11.2 for a while.
Many sites rated the Pioneer 11xx models well also, so I picked up a 1121 for
$429 shipped April 2012 in another Newegg close-out sale. I only buy receivers
with full preamp out. Just in case.

Yamaha has been making professional musical instruments and speakers for a
long time. They know how to make bass notes sound fine without auddysey.
Their onboard amps are a little under powered, but 10 watts per channel is never
a deal breaker. Yamaha has had stronger multizone capabilities for years. Denon is
finally catching up there.

Thay Audioholics link has the Yamaha top three and Home Theater has them #1
in the same price range here.
http://www.hometheater.com/content/top-picks-av-receivers

Here is another. All in the first few links of a google search "best home theater receiver".
http://www.consumersearch.com/home-theater-receivers

And another on the first page of search.
http://www.tested.com/tech/set-top-boxes/456857-best-home-theater-av-receiver/

This is enough for now.
http://av-receiver-review.toptenreviews.com/
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I am also in the market for a new AVR.....similar budget to the OP.

Currently leaning heavy toward the Denon x1000 since I just need 5.1
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I am also in the market for a new AVR.....similar budget to the OP.

Currently leaning heavy toward the Denon x1000 since I just need 5.1
That receiver has every important feature in that price range new ($450+/-). Very nice.
This is probably the lowest price if you are willing to buy refurbished with warranty. $320
http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/DENAVRX1000/DENON-AVR-X1000-5.1-Channel-Networking-Receiver-w/AirPlay/1.html

Consider getting a 7 channel receiver for a little more money. Almost all 7 channel receiver amplifiers will put out about 30% more
watts per channel when used as a 5.1. And zone 2 has stereo power built in if you decide you want some sound on the patio etc.
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Hi Kevin

With your $400 - $700 budget range and your questions, I think you'll find this Audioholics article helpful: http://www.audioholics.com/buying-guides/how-to-shop/best-budget-receiver-2013. The comparison chart looks to cover most of the features you're looking for as well. These are all current/2013 models, so it should help you a lot in identifying current model numbers. Another place to start is the individual AVR manufacturer's websites.

If you wanted to spend closer to your $700 limit, you'd generally look to a bigger number than shown in the article; eg. Denon AVR-X2000 or Onkyo TX-NR626. Both these give you the extra two rear channels.

From the A/H comparison, it's a close call but the Denon AVR-X1000 (or X2000 for RRP $700) would be my pick for you, mainly by virtue of having the higher tier implementation of Audyssey (your best bet for good, clean sound) and secondly, for Airplay and the 3 year warranty. The Onkyo TX-NR525 or 626 (RRP $600) would be a close second, due to a lower tier version of Audyssey and no Airplay. The Onkyo only betters the Denon in your "nice to have" WiFi and 4K passthrough. The second sub output is not really an issue at this level of AVR, as it would simply be an internal splitter feeding the same signal to both jacks - a Y splitter cable achieves the same thing.

BTW, this is an interesting thread (link) that discusses 4K "support" in AVR's.

Good luck with your research!

Thank you. Sorry it took me a while, but I want to thank you for the useful information.

I especially appreciate the link to the 4K information. I've crossed that off of my list of required specifications.
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Thank you. Sorry it took me a while, but I want to thank you for the useful information.

I especially appreciate the link to the 4K information. I've crossed that off of my list of required specifications.

No worries Kevin, I'm glad it helped. How are the purchase deliberations going?
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