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post #1 of 11 Old 08-20-2013, 04:26 PM - Thread Starter
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Hi everyone,,I could use your help...I have done some research but am so new to this surround sound stuff that I don't really understand it all.

Here is the scenario: Standard sized family room with a 56 inch tv...2 zones. Interior zone has three DEFINITIVE Mythos 2 speakers (left, center, right) surrounding the tv and two DEFINITIVE Mythos Gels for the rear pair . The sub is a DEFINITIVE Cube1, I think,,but not sure,,,might be a supercube 11. Outside (Zone 2) are 2 fairly large wall mounted SONANCE speakers.

I can't get anything new.

I am trying to decide between the PIONEER ELITE VSX-33 7.1 or the Yamaha RX-V773 7.2. Each are refurbished units. Looks like the Pioneer hit the market in 2010 and the Yamaha hit it in 2012.
The Yamaha refurb price is $449 out the door with a 1 year warranty.

The Pioneer refurb price is $480 out the door.

I am looking to get durability,,I won't be using all the bells and whistles. Any help is appreciated and thanks in advance
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I would compare each unit against it's equivalent new price. Then decide if the saving is a fair trade off for less warranty and potentially fewer features. Personally I buy my amplifiers new and run them until they fail or become obsolete. Obsolesce is potentially a greater concern with an AVR. I'm on my 4th AVR now but still using the same stereo amplifier I purchased back in the mid 1980s.

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The Yamaha uses YPAO calibration which has a universal crossover for all speakers which is a drawback. You have Mythos Gem surrounds which have 3.5" drivers. You'd probably want to cross them over at 100hz while your fronts should probably be crossed over at 80hz.. With the Yamaha you can only have one crossover setting.

The Pioneer uses MCACC calibration and you can set the crossover for the front, center and surrounds independently.

I'd get the Pioneer for that reason despite the shorter warranty.

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Interesting point raised by afrogt about the crossover points. A quick check on the manufacturer's literature indicates that they recommend a 120 Hz crossover for the Mythos Gem. Perhaps the Pioneer would be a better choice.

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Thanks. I discovered the Pioneer warranty is 90 days for what it's worth. I too am leaning toward the Elite.
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Pioneer uses a global xo for the speakers. This is not a disadvantage. All major avr companies recommend bass management. Audyssey also recommend bass management with all speaker set to small. There is no objective data to support setting different xo's for the speakers in a HT is better than a global xo.

I may be wrong but, most pioneer elite avr's have a 2 year warranty. Mine has a 2 year warranty if it is purchased thru an authorized dealer.

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Either one will do a fine job especially if youre not concerned about the bells and whistles. The Yamaha is more reliable than Pioneer imo.

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I decided to get the YAMAHA and ordered it. Even though the opinions here pointed to the Pioneer, I decided the 1 year warranty and the 2012 versus 2010 production year was the safer alternative. I also like the styling of the Yamaha better. Thanks for all the help!!!!! I see it comes with a wireless adapter:
-IEEE 802.11b/g/n compatible
-Auto setup by WPS (Wi-Fi Protected Setup)
-Manual setup by PC
-2 LAN ports to support up to 2 network products
-Powered by the DC out USB connection on the back of the RX-V773WA

If anyone is not too tired to entertain my electronic stupidity, can you explain how or why I would need or use two wireless adapters in my house. How would the one that comes with the Yamaha be used...can I do without it??? Do I need it to run PANDORA

Thanks again in advance
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Read the manual when you get it. If you still have questions you can post them in the 773 thread.

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http://www.avsforum.com/t/1449409/the-official-yamaha-rx-v773-thread/240#post_23631484

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Thanks Bond..you directed me to where I need to be now.
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