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Helping a friend find an AVR who wants zone A 5.1 and zone B 2.1.

Do most (any) AVRs support this, or is zone B typical 2.0?

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Most of your upper end models have a sub out in zone 2 if you look at pictures of the back of the unit most are labeled as such.
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Thanks - I figured as much, just hadn't researched far redface.gif

A related question, is it possible to force an AVR to only provide one zone (i.e. 1 or 2 but never both)?

I ask this because his setup is such that the ideal situation would have one pair of speakers doing dual duty: rears in the 5.1 and mains in the 2.1.

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Thanks - I figured as much, just hadn't researched far redface.gif

A related question, is it possible to force an AVR to only provide one zone (i.e. 1 or 2 but never both)?

I ask this because his setup is such that the ideal situation would have one pair of speakers doing dual duty: rears in the 5.1 and mains in the 2.1.
As far as I know with the brands I have used you need separate speakers for different zone no dual duty that I am aware of on 5.1 but on 7.1 the rears can either be used as a different zone or 7.1 but not both you will have to make a decision on setup.
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As far as I know with the brands I have used you need separate speakers for different zone no dual duty that I am aware of on 5.1 but on 7.1 the rears can either be used as a different zone or 7.1 but not both you will have to make a decision on setup.

My suspicions as well...

Looks like in order to do dual duty a speaker selector, used in reverse to be a source selector, would also be needed - that way the AVR outs for 5.1 rears and zone 2 mains could go to the switch and then hook up to the speakers.

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A related question, is it possible to force an AVR to only provide one zone (i.e. 1 or 2 but never both)?

I ask this because his setup is such that the ideal situation would have one pair of speakers doing dual duty: rears in the 5.1 and mains in the 2.1.

Why do you need setup zones then? Just setup 5.1 and when you want to play 2-ch stereo music, just turn off any DPLIIx or DTS processing and you get 2.1.
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Why do you need setup zones then? Just setup 5.1 and when you want to play 2-ch stereo music, just turn off any DPLIIx or DTS processing and you get 2.1.

I see your point, it should be do-able with just a 5.1 AVR and some kind of a speaker-switch.

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Thanks - I figured as much, just hadn't researched far redface.gif

A related question, is it possible to force an AVR to only provide one zone (i.e. 1 or 2 but never both)?

I ask this because his setup is such that the ideal situation would have one pair of speakers doing dual duty: rears in the 5.1 and mains in the 2.1.

Rears in a 5.1 would make it 7.1 and if that's the case, then yes, Denon 7.1 AVRs would allow you to select 7.1 or 5.1 + 2.0/2.1.

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Rears in a 5.1 would make it 7.1 and if that's the case, then yes, Denon 7.1 AVRs would allow you to select 7.1 or 5.1 + 2.0/2.1.

No, the rears of the 5.1 will be the fronts in the 2.1 (i.e. LR of 5.1 is FL of 2.1, and RR of 5.1 is LF of 2.1).

That's why I'm thinking a 5.1 AVR with a 2.1 zone 2. Then LR of zone 1 and RF of zone 2 would be connected to one speaker through a switch; similarly for RR of zone 1 and LF of zone 2 and the other speaker.

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Ah .. okay .. in a 5.1 setup, the surround speakers are more accurately referred to as the "side" surrounds (regardless of whether you place them to the rear or not) and are connected to the speaker posts labeled "Surround". On Denon 7.1 AVRs the "Surround Back" speakers posts can be designated as either Surround Back or Zone 2 (among a few other settings). IIRC, some Yamaha 7.1 models may allow you to drop down to 3.1 in the main zone and use the extra 4 channels for both Zone 2 and 3.

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