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Hi guys,

Ok, so I'm scanning Future Shop website in Canada.

What would make me want to spend $480 for the Marantz 1403 vs. $350 for the Denon 1713?

I don't care about Airplay (or even know what that is), WiFi / Blutooth etc. Just want to pair it up with the Energy Take Classic 5.1 (possibly upgrade in a few years) and watch movies / television. Am I getting a lot better sound quality from the Marantz, or am I just paying a premium for the slim jim look?

That's pretty well it, I'm open to any other suggestions as well. I'm essentially looking at CNET reviews but I'm not sure how reliable those are in terms of 'Top 10 of 2013' etc.

It will be paired up to a Panasonic TC-P65ZT60, Cable box and Blu-Ray player.
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No, you're getting the same sound. Actually the Denon 1713 will sound better because it has a more advanced version of Audyssey. And it has the networking features too even if you don't want them.

you're paying for a slimline chassis on the Marantz, that's it.

Get the Denon.

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Ok, thanks guys. I appreciate your direct answers!
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Question - I don't think that Denon has preouts other than the sub preout. The Marantz has preouts for the mains and sub.
Which is going to sound better for 2 channel music: the Denon powering the speakers with the advanced version of Audyssey, or the Marantz as a pre-pro with no Audyssey but a good stereo amp connected to it?
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The Marantz and Denon both have Audyssey. One has Mult EQ and the other MultEQ XT.

Whether the 1403 sounds better with an external amp depends on the quality of the amp and how loud you need to play your system.

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That's what I meant to say.. would the better version of Audyssey w/ the receiver as the amp do better than the lower-end version of Audyssey, pre'd to a good external amp. In my case it's an Emotiva UPA2. Ive been debating on getting the 1403 for a preamp.

Does the AVR-1713 have any kind of Audyssey setup in direct mode? Ive heard that most receivers auto-disable it in direct mode but some don't. I wonder which group these 2 receivers fall into? I'll take the Marantz if does it and the Denon doesn't. That plus the preouts and its hard to say no. If the Denon has MultEQ regular or XT for direct mode, it would be an easy choice for a music person using the receiver as the amp and a tougher choice for someone wanting to run separates.
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Unless the 1713 is unable to provide sufficient power to the speakers at the volume levels you listen, the higher version of Audyssey MultEQ XT will trump the external amp + MultEQ configuration. Audyssey is disabled on all current Denon and Marantz models when using either DIRECT or PURE DIRECT (ie. have to go back at least 7 years for it not to be disabled).

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Unless the 1713 is unable to provide sufficient power to the speakers at the volume levels you listen, the higher version of Audyssey MultEQ XT will trump the external amp + MultEQ configuration. Audyssey is disabled on all current Denon and Marantz models when using either DIRECT or PURE DIRECT (ie. have to go back at least 7 years for it not to be disabled).

So for movies the Denon 1713 is better, but for 2 channel music the Marantz 1403 has the edge since it has preouts for the mains, the 1713 doesn't, and neither will run Audyssey in direct mode. Got it.
Is there a known list of receivers that will run MultEq XT in 2-channel mode?
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Any AVR that uses Audyssey can do so in 2CH mode.

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