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Hey Guys,

I recently got a Yamaha RX-A830... While at my local BB I had the opportunity to get an open box Yamaha A2020 or a brand new A830 for roughly the same price. I chose the A830 since it was brand new and had the box and all accessories/etc. I should note that I am happy with the A830 but I can't help but wonder if the A2020 would have been a better buy.

Anyway, with my current setup I didn't think I'd need more than the A830 and the guy at BB basically said I wouldn't gain much from the A2020 since I wouldn't need the additional zones it offered... I was wondering what you guys would do, given the opportunity to get either receiver at about the same price and why? Would I see much difference between the two receivers given that the A2020 can output more watts per channel?

I mainly use my receiver to watch TV and HD movies via Plex and Apple TV.

Below is the current equipment in my HT setup and AV closet
  • Definitive BP8 Fronts
  • Pioneer "Andrew Jones" Center Channel
  • In Ceiling (cheap) rear speakers
  • BIC PL-200 Subwoofer
  • Samsung UN60F8000
  • Tivo Roamio Pro
  • Xbox 360
  • Apple TV 2
  • Harmon Kardon 3390 (to drive zone 2 output for other rooms of house)


The only other thing I may need to look in to is what kind of warranty I'd get with the A2020 since it's open box... not sure if I'd get the full manufacturer's warranty or not. Anyway, for those of you that own either your thoughts would be appreciated!
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I just purchased a 830 and will be at BB Friday, can't wait. Here's what I saw when I compared the 2 on Yamaha's site... 830 7.2, 2020 older model and 9.2, 2020 has 35 more wpc. Also the 2020 has 6 additional DSP programs and a high resolution music enhancer for older recordings. If you need 9.2 then the 2020 was your choice. Other than above stated per Yamaha's website, the other features look close or same.

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I just purchased a 830 and will be at BB Friday, can't wait. Here's what I saw when I compared the 2 on Yamaha's site... 830 7.2, 2020 older model and 9.2, 2020 has 35 more wpc. Also the 2020 has 6 additional DSP programs and a high resolution music enhancer for older recordings. If you need 9.2 then the 2020 was your choice. Other than above stated per Yamaha's website, the other features look close or same.

Thanks, I'm not sure if the extra wpc will make an appreciable difference. I don't care much for the additional DSP programs or music enhancer as I mostly listen to the receiver using straight or pure direct. The only other thing I could tell was that the 2020 had a dedicated phono input. I was thinking of getting in to vinyl again at some point but I'm assuming I could use any old audio in for phono? Is there any real difference between a regular input and phono input?
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That friend is a great question. I'm guessing your also safe regarding the inputs, no difference. I was considering a 3020 on a4less for $1300 but only for being the top model last year. Would I benefit from a bunch of extras??? Nope. We both have more flexibility and function than we could ever configure and its refreshing knowing we have the most up to date firmware and features. I don't think anyone of us will ever shake the urge for higher end open box deals, just like with my Denon deal, I wasn't satisfied and it wasn't what my previous Yamaha had already delivered as far as expectation. I'm viewing that as just a $399 side track, fwiw.

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Thanks, I'm not sure if the extra wpc will make an appreciable difference. I don't care much for the additional DSP programs or music enhancer as I mostly listen to the receiver using straight or pure direct. The only other thing I could tell was that the 2020 had a dedicated phono input. I was thinking of getting in to vinyl again at some point but I'm assuming I could use any old audio in for phono? Is there any real difference between a regular input and phono input?

There is definitely a difference with the phono input. The phono input essentially has a built-in phono preamp that is required for use with vinyl. It doesn't really matter where the phono pre-amp is located in the signal chain (built into the turntable, between turntable and receiver, built into the receiver) but there needs to be one somewhere. Most cheap turntables, likes ones in the $150 range will have a built-in pre-amp. When you start going higher price you will find some that do and some that don't. If you plug a turntable into a regular input, you will get sound but it will be beyond useless.

As far as the 2020 and 830 power difference, there will be no legitimate difference. A couple of things to keep in mind with receivers and volume, first, it take double the power to get a 3db difference. So with the 830 rated at 110 watts, to get an extra 3 db (which is very minimal) you would need to have 220 watts of power. 35 watt difference will get you about 1.5db extra volume. That being said, you should also keep in mind that receiver power ratings are very very very overblown. The ratings they publish are for 2 channels driven. This means that your real power output in a surround system will be significantly lower anyway.

All that being said, power ratings for receivers should be very low on your list of priorities. In my opinion, your choice in room correction is significantly more important. IIRC, the 2020 has a more advanced version of YPAO that will do some EQ for your sub (but you would probably want to verify with yamaha).
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Much gracias with the phono clarification, not my forte there : )

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Thanks for the replies guys... Looks like (for me) there isn't too much appreciable difference between the 830 and 2020. I'll be keeping my 830 then as it does everything I need it to do. If I get around to using vinyl I'll just need to make sure the turntable/record player has a pre-amp built in.
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