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My Denon AV receiver bit the dust. It no longer turns on. I may open it up to see if it's a power supply malfunction, but my knowledge is limited. Unless I could find a blown cap or similar, visually, I won't be able to fix it. The current system is this: Denon DHT487-DV

It's a HTIB system. I no longer use the DVD player as I use my HTPC with a Blu-Ray player, but the speakers and sub are still alive.

Any suggestions on a decent replacement for the receiver? I was looking at refurb Onkyos here:
HT-R391 - $179.99
HT-RC440 - $219.99
TX-NR414 - $199.99
TX-SR313 - $199.99
HT-S3500 (system with speakers) - $279.99

I also looked on newegg at these:
Harman/Kardon AVR 1650 - $281.99 (I've seen this on sale for much less before)
Harman/Kardon AVR 1565 - $199.99
Pioneer VSX-822-K - $199.99

I truly don't know the main difference between these, so I figured I'd ask some of the pros here. tongue.gif

Look like Onkyo has a 20% off deal today!! Promo Code: COLU

Thanks in advance!!
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Just signed up for Club Onkyo and the HT-R391 comes up as only $129.99. Wow. I get 10 points plus the 20% off and I'm looking at almost $100. That's cheap, but I wonder what the catch is.
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Don't get the HTR-391 as it doesn't not have a sub level output for a powered sub. It uses speaker level outputs and you won't be able to connect your Denon sub. that's the catch.


Get the Pioneer VSX-822, the HK 1565 or one of the higher up Onkyos if you're willing to take a chance on their reliability.

The Pioneer has networking, Airplay, Pandora and internet radio streaming which is a plus.

I would actually recommend the Denon 1613 as is has better room correction than the receivers you listed. And it has networking too.
http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/DENAVR1613/DENON-AVR-1613-5.1ch-Networking-Receiver-w/AirPlay-3D-ready/1.html

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Thanks for the response!
Good eye on the sub output. Damn... It was $93 shipped too after all of the discounts.
Do you recommend anything from the onkyo refurb section? I am willing to take the risk, especially that it's a 1-yr warranty. I'm ok with having no receiver for a week or two if I have to, as the TV's internal speakers can hold me down temporarily.
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problem is repair tends to be longer than 1 or 2 weeks.

Where are you located?

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I live in Nanuet, NY, about 25 mi from manhattan.
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You'll probably say it's dumb, but worth mentioning. What if I bought a high-level output to low-level converter as such:
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/cat_i331_line-out-converters.html

How about the ONKYO HT-RC440... it's only $150 w/free shipping at that site you linked earlier, cheaper than at Onkyo themselves ($219 - 20% = $175).
http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/ONKHTRC440/ONKYO-HT-RC440-5.1-Channel-3D-Ready-Network-AV-Receiver/1.html

I do have an iPhone, so Airplay would be nice.

The DENON AVR-1613 from their site is roughly $212.32 after shipping, so it's a $62.32 more. At this point I'm deciding between those two and leaning towards the Onkyo HT-RC440 because of price.
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Onkyo doesn't have Airplay. You need Denon, Marantz, Pioneer or Yamaha for that.

Get whichever receiver meets all your needs. It seems you're putting a premium on price over features.

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Onkyo doesn't have Airplay. You need Denon, Marantz, Pioneer or Yamaha for that.

Get whichever receiver meets all your needs. It seems you're putting a premium on price over features.
Well, Airplay may be a very nice feature after all. Thanks for your help so far, bud!!
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I'm torn between the DENON AVR-1613 and the Pioneer VSX-822-K... my only delay so far has been that I'm waiting for a front page deal, but getting impatient...
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I'm torn between the DENON AVR-1613 and the Pioneer VSX-822-K... my only delay so far has been that I'm waiting for a front page deal, but getting impatient...

Both models are built @ the same Sherwood factory.
For the money either one is a good deal, my personal preference is the Pioneer..

Just my $0.05.... 👍😉
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Oh, it's DEFINITELY a great deal, even at $199, but I did see a refurb sell for $155 @ NewEgg just 2 weeks ago and I'm beating myself up for missing out. My current Denon died a few weeks ago, I unplugged and plugged it back in and it worked... I wish it died then b/c I would have hopped onto the front page deal I missed out on.

If I buy it, I'm going with newegg most likely (no tax and their warehouse is one state away)... I live in NY and they often ship from NJ to me.
Now, the Denon you mentioned is what's had me caught up on which receiver I want... since I took your word for it having better room correction.
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Okay, so I got the Pioneer VSX-822-K for $180 brand new from NewEgg. There is a 10% off promo code for the newegg mobile app: MBLEMC10

For $5 I upgraded to ground shipping which estimates 1-day delivery (since I'm in NY and they have a warehouse in NJ). I'm HOPING they ship today so that I get it tomorrow and can set it up tomorrow night since I'm busy the rest of the weekend. THANKS FOR THE HELP, GUYS!!! smile.gif
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Damn, the HK 1650 is currently $199 at newegg:
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882121081

Oh well. I'm liking the Pioneer, so I shouldn't be upset per se. smile.gif
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The HK doesn't have networking or airplay so you might have been disappointed in the HK 1650.

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The HK doesn't have networking or airplay so you might have been disappointed in the HK 1650.
I didn't catch the Airplay actually. Dude, it's fun using it. smile.gif

I actually had my baby in his activity center, similar to one of these:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Evenflo-ExerSaucer-Activity-Center-Mega-Splash/14978058

I popped in with airplay and when I hit play on my iPhone it scared the crap out of him... thankfully, he didn't cry! smile.gif He's only 6 months old, and did rock out to some heavy metal.

What receiver/speakers do you have set up?
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