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I am looking to replace my older Onkyo TX-SR604 receiver because it doesn't have 3d passthrough and I'd like to go back to actual surround sound again vs "All Channel" mode smile.gif

The speakers I have currently are:

Center: SVSound SCS-01
Front L/R and Rear L/R: SVSound SBS-01
Sub: SVSound PB12-NSD/2 (The one with 2 12's in one box and 3 large ports on back.. the dua version PB12-NSD on their site now shows 2 single sub boxes so I'm guessing it has changed since I got mine about 4-5 years ago)

I'm looking to stay right around the $500 mark but am quite intrigued by the Audyssey XT that the Denon AVR-X1000 has... in that price range, is there anything that would provide better sound out of the speakers/sub I have? All I need is a 5.1 system and don't care anything about wifi, netflix, pandora, etc. My tv has app for that all crap. 2nd zone is not necessary either.

Ultimately I'm after what will provide the best sound. 3d passthrough and 2 hdmi inputs and one hdmi output is basically my only requirements as far as that goes.
I'm just wondering if a new receiver to replace my old one will give me a little more punch or liveliness because mids/highs are a bit dull sounding at the moment and from what I gather from reviews SVS speakers are usually pretty good... just want to try to get the most out of them I can. Looking forward to suggestions... Thanks in advance!!
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I'd go with the Denon myself, but Pioneer, Onkyo, and Yamaha all offer excellent receivers in that price range.
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Dont expect any kind of room correction software like Audyssey, YPAO, MCACC to make a big difference in the way your speakers sound. The best way to get better sound is to get better speakers. Atleast look for an AVR with a good built in EQ. Yamaha models have a great built in 7 band parametric EQ.

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Only downside to Yamaha's YPAO is it doesn't EQ the sub till you get to the 2xxx model.
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you could last years Denon 1713 and save yourself a little money. It still has Audyssey MultEQ XT
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Should either be a noticeable difference from the older Onkyo SR604 I have now ?
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Better room calibration on the Denon units and the ability to decode TrueHD and DTS-MA from blu ray discs.

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Should either be a noticeable difference from the older Onkyo SR604 I have now ?
Nearly any modern receiver will probably sound better and meet your requirements but dont expect it to sound like you have a different speaker system. Again, good room correction software and a good built in eq will make the most difference.

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Should either be a noticeable difference from the older Onkyo SR604 I have now ?

Most likely yes. The 604 only uses the lowest version of Audyssey 2EQ which like the similar lower level Yamaha models cannot EQ the sub, while MultEQ XT in the Denon "X" series can EQ the sub as well as has 16x better speaker filter resolution than 2EQ.

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Personally I wouldnt buy a different receiver just because it has a little better version of room correction software. I dont think EQing the sub is going to make a big difference and it could be done better manually if really desired.

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Most would agree that Audyssey does an incredible job of EQing both speakers and subs, but as always ... to each their own.
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He already has Audyssey just a lower version.
Serious question though. Why would anyone ever buy an AVR that doesnt have Audyssey?

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Personally I wouldnt buy a different receiver just because it has a little better version of room correction software. I dont think EQing the sub is going to make a big difference and it could be done better manually if really desired.

I'm planning on upgrading anyway since mine doesn't currently have 3d passthrough. I have to run HDMI from DirecTV straight to the tv then either 1.) an audio out from tv to avr or 2.) audio out to avr from directv box. The problem with this is that my directv box won't do optical audio out and hdmi out at the same time and my tv doesn't have an optical out so I have to run in Onkyo's full channel mode all the time where all sound comes out of all speakers all the time effectively killing surround sound since I upgraded my tv. Any new receiver with 3d passthrough fixes that issue... I'm just trying to go ahead and get something noticeably better sound quality wise while I'm at it.

Is there any advantage in getting Denon's AVR-X3000 instead of the AVR-X1000 ? I've seen it on eBay for very close to the same price as I can grab the AVR-X1000 for locally. Any advantage if 5.1 is all I'm going to use in getting the 3000?
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Im not familiar with those two models but Im sure there are advantages. If you can get a 3000 for the price of a 1000 I would do it.

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The X3000 is much more feature rich than is the X1000 ; however, eBay resellers will not likely be authorized Denon dealers so there would be no valid mfr's warranty.

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The X3000 is much more feature rich than is the X1000 ; however, eBay resellers will not likely be authorized Denon dealers so there would be no valid mfr's warranty.
Did you see my previous question about Audyssey?

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Regardless of the brand of AVR purchased, the average buyer will benefit from an on board auto EQ and even more so with one that can EQ the subwoofer which as I previously indicated, Audyssey 2EQ cannot do. Upgrading to a more current model like the X1000 not only provides the desired Sub EQ feature but also the 3D pass through he desires.

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Just wanted to update... I went ahead and snagged the Denon AVR-X3000 off of eBay... I understand the deal with eBay sellers not being authorized but I just couldn't pass on the price... especially since I had almost $80 in eBay bucks expiring soon... wink.gif

Thanks again to everyone for the recommendations... it is much appreciated.
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