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I am currently using an Onyko 805 no problems. Just want one with hdmi pass thru  arc  and good video upconversion at least two zones "patio Speakers" and about the same power output.

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Do you have a price range / price max in mind?

I'd suggest the Denon AVR-X4000, but it doesn't have the same power rating specs as your Onkyo, although it does have multi-channel pre-outputs so you could always add an external amp if you needed more power.


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I recently switched from an Onkyo 809 to the Denon 3313 and have been very happy with the SQ. I also have a Marantz in another system and am very happy with that as well. What's your budget and your power needs?

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using an 805   just ordered a 3313 hope it works out and is as reliable as the onyko that it will replace .. 110 watts using Klipsch RC62 for center and RB61 for front and Bose cubes for rear and surround.

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The 3313CI uses the same version of Audyssey MultEQ XT as do both the 805 and 809, so audio quality should be similar. As eljay suggested, the better upgrade would have been the new X4000 which not only has a a few more features (to include HDMI/optical/digital coax to Zone 2) but also uses the much more advanced version of Audyssey MultEQ XT32 with 32x the speaker filter resolution as XT.

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Pro: Network diagnostics; Input Assign (analog audio inputs); Expandable to 9CH w/external 2CH amp; MultEQ XT32, Sub EQ HT (dual subs); 11.2 main zone pre-outs; Audyssey LFC, DTS Neo:X (9.2); Audyssey DSX (9.2); HDMI Video Select (USB, Tuner, Network + CD + Phono); InstaPreview (HDMI – 2D); Zone 2 HDMI Audio (Through/PCM – PCM 2.0 to Zone 2 speaker posts/pre-outs); Optical/Coax digital PCM 2.0  Zones 2/3; All Zone Stereo (Zones 2/3); 2nd Analog Devices DSP
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Well there is one con and it can be a big one depending on one's budget. COST. Right now the 3313 can be had for almost half of what the X4000 costs because it's last years model and Denon is dumping them. I got mine for $700. True the new Audyssey XT32 is a big plus and if you have the extra $600 then I agree, buy the X4000. But if you don't then the 3313 is a good choice. I really like the 3313 over my Onkyo 809, (even though they have the same Audyssey). To me the Denon sounds much clearer and has better SQ. But that truly is just my opinion and I know that a lot of Onkyo owners would argue against me on that. But I really like the SQ I get from both my Denon and my Marantz. 

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thanks for the info. I had tried the Yamaha 2020 very nice but "squirrely" when I would try to use it with my Samsung tv the receiver would turn on then off and come up on audio 1 . I would have to switch it to video 1. also changing channels with my direct tv . It would loose video and I would have to reacquire video 1. Called both Crutchfield and Yamaha support no help. Yamaha tell me problem sounds like Samsung. but old 805 no problem. Just want hdmi pass thru. Crutchfield says buy a
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I think you will be happy with the 3313. It will meet your needs and it sound great and it has a great price.

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Well there is one con and it can be a big one depending on one's budget. COST. Right now the 3313 can be had for almost half of what the X4000 costs because it's last years model and Denon is dumping them. I got mine for $700. True the new Audyssey XT32 is a big plus and if you have the extra $600 then I agree, buy the X4000. But if you don't then the 3313 is a good choice. I really like the 3313 over my Onkyo 809, (even though they have the same Audyssey). To me the Denon sounds much clearer and has better SQ. But that truly is just my opinion and I know that a lot of Onkyo owners would argue against me on that. But I really like the SQ I get from both my Denon and my Marantz. 

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thanks for the info. I had tried the Yamaha 2020 very nice but "squirrely" when I would try to use it with my Samsung tv the receiver would turn on then off and come up on audio 1 . I would have to switch it to video 1. also changing channels with my direct tv . It would loose video and I would have to reacquire video 1. Called both Crutchfield and Yamaha support no help. Yamaha tell me problem sounds like Samsung. but old 805 no problem. Just want hdmi pass thru. Crutchfield says buy a

$200+ universal remote.

For your next purchase,, suggest you give me a call at AVScience as we are both Denon and Yamaha authorized dealers, and I would very likely have resolved both of your issues/concerns had you purchased from us. wink.gif

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What's your budget and your power needs?

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 For your next purchase,, suggest you give me a call at AVScience as we are both Denon and Yamaha authorized dealers, and I would very likely have resolved both of your issues/concerns had you purchased from us.

jdsmoothie that is great to know, I don't know about the OP but I know that when it comes to my next AVR upgrade I will call you first for both advice and possible purchase. 

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