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You and Saturn aren't the only dinosaurs on this thread...I'm still happy with my Jitterbug.
Ooooh...the one with the really big buttons? I envy you. No phone can quite "butt dial" like a Jitterbug. I still have my old Motorola brick phone, survived many a job site too I might add...still waiting for the Smithsonian to make an offer! My asking price is 98 cents, but so far negotiations have stalled. Damned budget cuts.

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Ooooh...the one with the really big buttons? I envy you. No phone can quite "butt dial" like a Jitterbug. I still have my old Motorola brick phone, survived many a job site too I might add...still waiting for the Smithsonian to make an offer! My asking price is 98 cents, but so far negotiations have stalled. Damned budget cuts.
Earlier this year I came close to joining the 21st century by considering a smart phone, but I'm too cheap to pay the prices they charge for data plans. Besides, as long as I can make phone calls, I'm pretty happy.

My appologies to Anthem MRX owners for being off topic (I am an AVM owner though if that counts ).
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Hmm now I gave for some time to listen to my mrx 710, it's really awesome.
But after some movies I have found out I sometimes have some distortion in my right surround speaker, not sure if it's in the movie or the reciever which curses the problem.
E.g at the Avengers 1:45:55 when the big monsters comes through the portal. And it's not the only time I have heard it.
I'm listening at -30 db. It's running a set of monitor audio silver RX with RX 8 fronts and RX fx surround.

My other problem is a humming/zumming from the reciever which comes and goes with 10-20 sec intervals.
It's so loud I can hear it 1.5-2 meter away while there's music or voice on the system.
Hope someone can help
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Audio start delay not 100% gone

I picked up a MRX710 a few days ago. Running the ARC was very easy, even using a Macbook and Parallels. I was dreading that, but I had no problems at all (other than having to connect a CD drive to get to the calibration file). My receiver doesn't have any brightness difference between medium and maximum on the front panel display, but that hardly seems to merit an exchange, especially since this unit is eventually going to live in a closet.

One observation is that the complaint that a lot of people mentioned early on - the audio delay when changing music tracks on an optical/coax source - does still seem to exist, but it's very slight. I'm running the most recent firmware (1.2.1), with a Mac connected via coax, and I've noticed that if I pause playback for 5 seconds or so, and I resume at a new track, the first attack on that track is clipped. This seems to be much less severe than people originally reported - it's literally just the attack, just milliseconds - but it's still there. I don't understand why that firmware change couldn't completely fix this, particularly - as many have mentioned - the Japanese receivers don't do this. (I've just switched from a Denon.) The problem is unique to the coax (and maybe optical) digital connections, but doesn't exist via HDMI, presumably because that signal is constant.

Anyway, that issue is still there, unless there's some hidden newer firmware I don't know about. Great receiver once the audio is playing, though.
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More distortion clues

Just got the MRX710 a few days ago, and damn it, it turns out I am experiencing the distortion as well. It's on my right channel, and I've only noticed it with well-recorded minimally-compressed (live jazz or classical) piano music. It's there whether or not I use ARC.
If I'm running the audio through HDMI, I can GREATLY reduce the distortion by turning on Dolby Volume, and it gets "better" the higher the setting on the Dolby Volume Leveler, but that changes the audio considerably. I've always hated Dolby Volume and would rather not use it. Running the same audio via coax, I can't find any way to reduce the distortion (as in, Dolby Volume does not correct it). Not sure if that's a clue?

I don't know if the forums will let me share an MP3 link, but if so, here's an excerpt that has very audible distortion on my system. This is from one of the Oscar Peterson CDs on Telarc. Zero distortion via headphones or other (non-Anthem) receivers. (I haven't tried it using the MRX710 as a pre-amp.) Do you guys hear any distortion with this track, played at a fairly high level?
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...Distortion.mp3

Speakers - but I doubt it's relevant - are Paradigm Signature 8 and a Signature Servo sub. I'm running the speakers bi-amped, currently only two channel. I'm running firmware 1.2.1. My dealer is on vacation for the next week, so I can't exchange or return this for a while, so if anybody wants me to try anything, I'm open to it.

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...the audio delay when changing music tracks on an optical/coax source...
That is correct. Singal locking is still not instantaneous, but on coax/optical, it is much faster than on HDMI. What you are experiencing is the muting circuit, which mutes the MRX after not receiving signal for 3-5 seconds (not tested). The display should switch to "no signal" from "2.0 PCM". On HDMI this does not happen, due to the continuous workings of HDMI (signal will stay locked indefinitely), but the locking itself is slower over HDMI.

Most of our issues came from the overly aggressive muting circuit, which muted tracks after 1 sec of no-signal / digital silence. This has been fixed. The noticeable lock time still persists, and I'm not sure it'll be (or if it can be) improved.

I'll test your file on my 510. Oh and you can always ask support about the lock-time, if they are working on something they'll send a beta firmware to you.

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Just got the MRX710 a few days ago, and damn it, it turns out I am experiencing the distortion as well. It's on my right channel, and I've only noticed it with well-recorded minimally-compressed (live jazz or classical) piano music. It's there whether or not I use ARC.
If I'm running the audio through HDMI, I can GREATLY reduce the distortion by turning on Dolby Volume, and it gets "better" the higher the setting on the Dolby Volume Leveler, but that changes the audio considerably. I've always hated Dolby Volume and would rather not use it. Running the same audio via coax, I can't find any way to reduce the distortion (as in, Dolby Volume does not correct it). Not sure if that's a clue?

I don't know if the forums will let me share an MP3 link, but if so, here's an excerpt that has very audible distortion on my system. This is from one of the Oscar Peterson CDs on Telarc. Zero distortion via headphones or other (non-Anthem) receivers. (I haven't tried it using the MRX710 as a pre-amp.) Do you guys hear any distortion with this track, played at a fairly high level?
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...Distortion.mp3

Speakers - but I doubt it's relevant - are Paradigm Signature 8 and a Signature Servo sub. I'm running the speakers bi-amped, currently only two channel. I'm running firmware 1.2.1. My dealer is on vacation for the next week, so I can't exchange or return this for a while, so if anybody wants me to try anything, I'm open to it.
I had a similar problem on my 500 (not my 710) when I originally bought it several years ago. Turning on Dolby volume reduced the distortion, although the distortion in my unit was present even at low volume. A factory reset and then a new firmware install took care of it. It never returned after that.
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False alarm on that distortion

After much more investigating (including running the MRX710 only as a preamp into my Denon receiver, then running the Denon on its own and still hearing the distortion), it appears that the problem is not with the MRX710, but with one of my Signature 8 towers. Now to figure out how to get service on a 110 pound speaker that is a year out of warranty... (I bought these in 2008. Oy.)

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Just got the MRX710 a few days ago, and damn it, it turns out I am experiencing the distortion as well. It's on my right channel, and I've only noticed it with well-recorded minimally-compressed (live jazz or classical) piano music. It's there whether or not I use ARC.
If I'm running the audio through HDMI, I can GREATLY reduce the distortion by turning on Dolby Volume, and it gets "better" the higher the setting on the Dolby Volume Leveler, but that changes the audio considerably. I've always hated Dolby Volume and would rather not use it. Running the same audio via coax, I can't find any way to reduce the distortion (as in, Dolby Volume does not correct it). Not sure if that's a clue?

I don't know if the forums will let me share an MP3 link, but if so, here's an excerpt that has very audible distortion on my system. This is from one of the Oscar Peterson CDs on Telarc. Zero distortion via headphones or other (non-Anthem) receivers. (I haven't tried it using the MRX710 as a pre-amp.) Do you guys hear any distortion with this track, played at a fairly high level?
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...Distortion.mp3

Speakers - but I doubt it's relevant - are Paradigm Signature 8 and a Signature Servo sub. I'm running the speakers bi-amped, currently only two channel. I'm running firmware 1.2.1. My dealer is on vacation for the next week, so I can't exchange or return this for a while, so if anybody wants me to try anything, I'm open to it.
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Hmm now I gave for some time to listen to my mrx 710, it's really awesome.
But after some movies I have found out I sometimes have some distortion in my right surround speaker, not sure if it's in the movie or the reciever which curses the problem.
E.g at the Avengers 1:45:55 when the big monsters comes through the portal. And it's not the only time I have heard it.
I'm listening at -30 db. It's running a set of monitor audio silver RX with RX 8 fronts and RX fx surround.

My other problem is a humming/zumming from the reciever which comes and goes with 10-20 sec intervals.
It's so loud I can hear it 1.5-2 meter away while there's music or voice on the system.
Hope someone can help
Just saw Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem and America the first Avenger. Both movies the Distortion happened on ONLY the right surround speaker which is a Monitor Audio RX FX. It's under under some specific scenes with a lot of sounds going on, not shooting etc, it's mostly from music, jets from planes and such.
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Just saw Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem and America the first Avenger. Both movies the Distortion happened on ONLY the right surround speaker which is a Monitor Audio RX FX. It's under under some specific scenes with a lot of sounds going on, not shooting etc, it's mostly from music, jets from planes and such.
Swap the speakers and retry that scenes
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Swap the speakers and retry that scenes
Good suggestion, my thoughts exactly.
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Swap the speakers and retry that scenes
I tried that and it seems it's still there.
I've troede turning off arc which seems to remove the distortion.
How to fix that?
the hum/buzz from the reciever seems to be most present when watching TV with audio return. Hmm
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Ok I just ordered an MRX 510...coming from an Marantz av8801 that I was having so many problems with decided to give up on it. I will be using my own amps instead of the built in ones. I am excited to be get another anthem as I love the dedication and quality they put in their work. Having ARC as well will be a welcome addition.

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For Nick or any owner who uses the 12V trigger output on the MRX receivers: does the said output have a built-in delay, i.e. does the "triggered" component turn on immediately on powering up the MRX or a few seconds later?

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For Nick or any owner who uses the 12V trigger output on the MRX receivers: does the said output have a built-in delay, i.e. does the "triggered" component turn on immediately on powering up the MRX or a few seconds later?

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There's a delay. The trigger on my 310 comes on about when the internal amps do.
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For Nick or any owner who uses the 12V trigger output on the MRX receivers: does the said output have a built-in delay, i.e. does the "triggered" component turn on immediately on powering up the MRX or a few seconds later?

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There's a delay. The trigger on my 310 comes on about when the internal amps do.

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Thanks, guys. Hopefully that means that power amps and/or subwoofers aren't triggered until any turn-on transients occurring in the MRX preamp have settled down.
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For those of you that have worried about the MRX shutting down on certain apparently benign speaker loads, I just read something interesting in a review of some RBH speaker over at Hometheaterreview.com. Long story short, the Anthem is not the only receiver to do this, and it may not do it even though a different AVR did. Here's the relevant section of the article:

I highlighted those impedance numbers for a very specific reason. By all rights, the RBH CTx Series speakers should work with virtually any mass-market AV receiver, given its numbers. Even the minimal impedance of the C-4x is right in line with what you would expect from a speaker with a rated nominal impedance of eight ohms. RBH is, after all, one of the few companies that you can always count on to rate its speakers meticulously and conservatively, and the CTx Series system is no exception.
So I thought nothing of connecting the system to the Onkyo TX-NR636 7.2-channel receiver that I was reviewing when the RBH speakers arrived. I fired up the receiver, cued up the disc currently in my Oppo Blu-ray player (the DVD-Audio release of Chicago II by Rhino), and sat down to get acquainted with the new speakers. Despite being rated to drive a six-ohm load, though, the Onkyo simply couldn't handle that disc's dynamics when played through the RBH speakers. Any appreciable peak resulted in the receiver going into fault-protection mode.
Not quite sure whether to blame the receiver or the speakers (but strongly suspecting the former, given that I had run into problems with it during the course of its review), I swapped out the Onkyo for my trusty Anthem MRX 710. From there, I'm happy to report, the installation, setup, and listening process was almost 100 percent problem-free.

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From there, I'm happy to report, the installation, setup, and listening process was almost 100 percent problem-free.
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...do you know, (or anyone else here) anything about IRule?...
Hi whodunnit - thx for the hint. I guess it's rather easy to setup since it uses a (costly) IR emitter box in most cases. Even though they claim to have IP based control options the Anthem brand is only listed as IR compatible devices.
But I'd rather have sth that comes out of the box with IP based controls for Anthem and Oppo, etc. an no extra hardware involved.
OpenRemote might be an alternative since I might be able to run the server on a existing box but at the moment I just don't find the time to dig into such projects... so I'll have to wait until somebody comes up with a turn key solution (or gettin early retirement)
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Hi whodunnit - thx for the hint. I guess it's rather easy to setup since it uses a (costly) IR emitter box in most cases. Even though they claim to have IP based control options the Anthem brand is only listed as IR compatible devices.
But I'd rather have sth that comes out of the box with IP based controls for Anthem and Oppo, etc. an no extra hardware involved.
OpenRemote might be an alternative since I might be able to run the server on a existing box but at the moment I just don't find the time to dig into such projects... so I'll have to wait until somebody comes up with a turn key solution (or gettin early retirement)


I have IRule and have to somewhat disagree with the costly remark. Yes you initially buy the software...and an IR emitter box but for what you can do with it you cant get this level of control without buying a installer solution. If you can get an IP address you most likely can control it with IRule. I just got my MRX 510 so I will be seeing how I can control it with IRule. On the MRX 510 let me just say WOW! after running ARC this is amazing sound coming from this sucker!!

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