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post #1 of 10 Old 11-26-2013, 02:20 PM - Thread Starter
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I am overwhelmed with all the AVRs out there. I don't want to overspend and i am trying to get my ducks in a row for black friday in case a good deal shows up. Here is what I need it to do:

A. Dual zone (powered)
B. Airplay
C. iPhone app for remote control
D. Minimum 3 HDMI inputs and 1 HDMI output

I don't need superior sound quality as this is not in my "home theater" room. I do have a somewhat dated Acoustimass Bose system (one subwoofer and 5 sattelite speakers).

Brands i am interested in are Pioneer, Yamaha, Denon, Sony...

Would love to pay less than $400. Is that possible?
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That's easily doable.

Accessories4less has a sale on Black Friday.
http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/cms/specials/Specials/1.html

Denon 1913, 2113 and E400 all meet your needs.

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If you don't mind picking up a refurbished receiver from last year's lineup, then you can take a look on Accessories4less. In order to get a powered 2nd zone you generally have to go with at least a 7 channel AVR. If for want to run both a 7 channel main room and a two channel zone 2, then you'll need a 9 channel AVR. I'm not up to speed on Pioneer, Yamaha, or Sony but you'll be looking at last year's Denon AVR-3313 or this year's Denon X4000. Onkyo will be TX-NR818, 828, or 929. A4L has the Denon/Onkyo starting at $649 plus $70 for a 5-year extended warranty. You can probably hit your target $400 by opting for a non-powered zone 2 and just buy powered speakers ( must have zone 2 pre-outs ) for zone 2.

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First off look for a 7.1 or 7/2 capable AVR. Most will let you assign unused back surround channels as a powered zone two. Denon's 1712 is one example. Read the descriptions for the AVR that interests you - you'll find when you do the 'leg-work' the answers are easy to find - nobody is trying to hide such info. I spend lots of time reading the user manuals. Lots of info there!

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7.1 receivers like the Denon AVR 1913, 2113 and E400 will have powered zone 2 as long as you do 5.1 in the main zone.

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Wow.  Great information from this crowd.  Followup question to afrogt, just to make sure I am on the same page with you.  The bose speaker system I have is "5.1"?

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If it has 5 speakers and a subwoofer then yes it is 5.1.

Any 7.1 receiver can be configured as 5.1.

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Obviously, I like the prices at that link but I am not familiar with refurbished items.  What does that really mean and is it safe to assume there is more risk?

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With those refurbished AVRs you usually get a one year warranty instead of the standard two years. Many 'refurbished' electronics were bought by people that bought an item - took it home - and found it too difficult to set up and get sound and video from it. They are stuck back in the box and taken back to the store who turn all such items back to the distributor. Accessores4less are authorized to sell the brands they market. I've bought many refurbished items over the years - I've had very little problem with any of those items.

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Obviously, I like the prices at that link but I am not familiar with refurbished items.  What does that really mean and is it safe to assume there is more risk?

I've only had one instance where a refurbished receiver was actually DOA. I was covered by the shorter warranty but it was an inconvenience hooking it all up, discovering it didn't work properly, disconnecting, and sending it off to a service center. You'll have to decide whether saving the 40% to 60% is worth the potential hassle. I would definitely pick up an extended warranty on any complex piece of gear as the odds of something breaking are higher than with other electronics.

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