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post #1 of 7 Old 11-27-2013, 11:23 PM - Thread Starter
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I have Focal 836 mains that are driven by an Emotiva XPA-2, medium sized Polk center channel, 2 Polk rears, plus a 12" Velodyne sub. 70% Music, 30% Movies.

It is time to finally retire the Denon 3805 that I bought new in 2005. She has served me well. Besides being outdated, my only complaint is that it has never given me the bass from my mains that I wanted.

My new receiver's amp will ONLY power the center channel and rears, so I am not overly concerned with the receivers amp section. However, I want as high quality sound as possible for under $1,500, and I do run my music -LOUD-. All my music is on a hard drive, streaming ability/quality is very important. I watch a LOT of live music concert Blu Rays. All receivers in this price range seem to have all the HD audio formats covered (for movies), and have all the HDMI in/outs that I need.

I've only been researching for a week now, coming back up to speed. The Denon X-4000 is on the short list. I'm learning about the Yamaha AVENTAGE line, but still in the dark there.

For over a decade, I've come here to learn what piece of gear I should buy, and you guys have never let me down. Thank you in advance for your advice, opinions, and thoughts.
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denon x4000 would be my choice - mainly for xt32.

also bass comes from your subwoofer not from an avr....just sayin.tongue.gif

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denon x4000 would be my choice - mainly for xt32.

also bass comes from your subwoofer not from an avr....just sayin.tongue.gif

 

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Since you have an XPA-2 your speakers should be outputting good bass already. If not I suggest new speakers or add another sub. No AVR I know of will give you better or worse bass if your speakers are powered by an external 250wpc amp already. The 2805 has Audyssey and it is adjustable. You can crank more or less bass into the sub easily.

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The bass from the sub is fine, but the Focal mains are also capable of producing bass. To remind you, the external amp and speakers only reproduce what is given to them by the source. If you read my post, you would see I was unhappy with the bass from my mains, which are a set of Focal 836s. Not a bad speaker, IMO. Even with adjusting the crossover and manual EQ settings in the Denon 3805, I do not get the bass out of the Focals that they are capable of. I've heard these speakers in other setups and know what they are capable of. The Emotiva XPA-2 is a pretty decent amp also, IMO, so that leads me to the 8 year old Denon.
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The 3805 lacked the use of any version of Audyssey which as some other former non-Audyssey model Denon owners have noted that even when using a lower level MultEQ model there was a noticeable improvement in audio fidelity. The X4000 features the most advanced version of Audyssey MultEQ XT32 so there should be an even more noticeable improvement. Review the Audyssey 101/FAQ Guide to get the best benefit from this feature.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/795421/official-audyssey-thread-faq-in-post-51779/51700_100#post_21783025
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So, the general feeling is that the Denon X-4000 is the way to go? None of the new Yamaha Aventage boxes to consider? Anything else?

Thanks guys.
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