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post #1 of 9 Old 12-10-2013, 12:58 AM - Thread Starter
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Hi Guys,

 

Im looking for a receiver to connect my logitech Z5500 set on for now till i saved up for a decent speakerset 

 

I like the sound of the Logitech but for practical reasons ( no hdmi inputs ) i want to change it with a surround receiver

I can modify the woofer in the DB connector to use a signal from coaxial output so that is no issue

 

What i've seen so far in my price range is 

 

Yamaha v473

Denon X1000

Onkyo nr525

 

now the million dollar question

 

this setup only is used for 95% for movies and TV series or just watch some TV

 

Witch of these 3 can deliver me the best audio experiance ?

 

Airplay and such is not used by me , who knows afterwards maybe but i dont own any products starting with an I :)

 

 

Thanks in advance !

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Hi Guys,

Im looking for a receiver to connect my logitech Z5500 set on for now till i saved up for a decent speakerset 

I like the sound of the Logitech but for practical reasons ( no hdmi inputs ) i want to change it with a surround receiver
I can modify the woofer in the DB connector to use a signal from coaxial output so that is no issue

What i've seen so far in my price range is 

Yamaha v473
Denon X1000
Onkyo nr525

now the million dollar question

this setup only is used for 95% for movies and TV series or just watch some TV

Witch of these 3 can deliver me the best audio experiance ?

Airplay and such is not used by me , who knows afterwards maybe but i dont own any products starting with an I smile.gif


Thanks in advance !

They will all deliver about the same audio experience. Personally I would take Onkyo off the list because of the brand's well known reliability issues. Otherwise choose the features you want and will use.
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hey thanks !

 

some sites say yamaha sounds warmer and onkyo has issues with their lifetime and warranty...

 

so you hear 1 time a good advice and the next a very bad :(

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That is the nature of audio. Amplifiers have become a perfected technology in terms delivering inaudible noise, distortion and variations in frequency response so there isn't anything warm or cool about any of them. You are reading about peoples' reactions to their own hearing bias. Ignore it. Sound is a reason to buy speakers, not receivers.
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point taken ...

 

in terms of movie experiance setup and features 

witch should be a great choise ?

yamaha or denon ?

 

i always tought thou that an amp deliveres 50% of the quality ... 

or maybe because they are all a-brand units there is near no difference ?

 

what issues u encountered with onkyo if i may ask ?

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The very cheapest receivers do not have the power supply capability to drive most decent speakers well.

NAD and Cambridge Audio AVRs are much better engineered in this respect than most comparably-priced units.

The NAD T748 should do a good job of running almost any speakers you choose.

You can get it for around $500.

A cheaper unit may not perform well and need replacement later.

Those who claim that all amplifiers sound essentially the same are ignorant of amplifier and power supply design and the distortion all amplifiers produce on peaks when either the amplifier or power supply is stretched to its limit. Movies in particular put very large peak demands on amplifiers.

As someone who has been in this field for 50 years, I have no such illusions. I hear offensive amounts of distortion from receivers all the time, especially when 5 or 7 speakers are used and the power supply is inadequate to provide the drive current needed.

The large majority of AVR designs use power supplies that are marginally engineered to save every penny possible, and this severely limits the performance of their amplifiers. The power ratings of these receivers are almost only for 2 channels only, and give no clue about the real performance of the receiver with 5 or 7 receivers. These power ratings are deceptive and essentially worthless inmost cases.

Nad and Cambridge are the exception. Their power supplies are engineered to do a much better job, and that's why they don't sell poorly-engineered products for low prices ($400 or less). They are also the only ones that have the honesty to actually give meaningful power ratings for the case where all channels are fully driven.

You just can't build a decent AVR and sell it that cheap.
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unfotunatly the NAD costs twice the money of the denon x1000 or the yamaha 473 in my country ( belgium )

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That is odd, because I have seen the NAD T748 in the USA for $499, and the X1000 is currently listed on Amazon for $449.

I would think their prices there would be comparable.

In any case, I think I would prefer the Denon if the NAD is not an option.


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the yamaha and the denon going around 300-350euros here and the nad is listed at 699eur

 

do you have any idea of the options in the denon compared to the yamaha for a movie enthousiast ?

 

i like the denon design more aswell but i put performance above esthetic :)

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