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My NR-809 has died. Only get relay clicking at power up. So after much reading here I would like to know which to replace it with ?
Another 809 or 818. They are about the same price and I believe the 818 is newer and may not have the HDMI board problems.
I was very happy with the 809 but after the HDMI board problem and now this I don't want to spend anymore money
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Any input on this would be much appreciated.
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If I had HDMI board problems on a previous Onkyo I wouldn't buy another Onkyo again....but that's just me.
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my HT-RC180 died back in Aug after using it daily since Mar '11 & after reading all the threads about the hdmi board issues, emailed Onkyo with the details & they agreed to do a one time repair. Got the unit back just under 3 wks & works like it should. Even with that issue, I'm looking to upgrade to an 818 for the Audyssey XT32 since I just upgraded all my speakers. Figure if the 818 has a prob, Onkyo will fix it. Just my .02 worth biggrin.gif

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just bought one. Will be here next week.
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just bought one. Will be here next week.

Here's the link to 'The "Official" NR818 Owner's Thread' - you may need it for troubleshooting.wink.gif

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Just what In need a link for troubleshooting.

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Well, this probably wont be popular, but I bet a very high percentage of Onkyo failures were user based. Mine was.

Being in the computer business for the last 40 years you would think I would know better, but sadly when I setup my 609 I chose to ignore the manual and only give it about 2" space on top. I had too many components and was simply too lazy to go out and purchase another stand. However I did not join any threads moaning about the poor quality of my receiver. I knew my own stupidity had killed it.

As we all know, heat=death for electronics and my poor 609 lasted over 2 years in that stand, but eventually succumbed.

Currently I have a used 809 on the way, but it will not be abused like the 609 was. It is supposed to run fairly cool anyway from reading the 809 thread. For insurance I'll mount a couple of Noctura's under the top grill to exhaust hot air.

I think some people have had rather poor service from Onkyo as well and have a bit of an axe to grind, thus taking every opportunity to tell you to stay away from Onkyo. Fair enough, but if you read other threads, you find that most brands have some form of problem here or there. Onkyo is known for being pretty accurate in the power spec department and they can run pretty darn hot. Manual said 8" room up top (IIRC) and I wonder if my 609 would have been trouble free if I followed the instructions.

Enjoy your 818, up here in Canada, Amazon.ca wants $1200.00 for an 809 or 818. I found one from a Canadian seller who put less than 100 hours on his year old 809 (never used the amps either, just pre-outs) as it was in a secondary room. I believe him as well. His HT room has 20k of equipment in it.

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No doubt heat is a major issue. I had a fan blowing on mine almost all the time & my avr is sitting on the bottom shelf with ~2" space between it & the next shelf so who knows? Very well could be that that led to it's failure! There were no notes on the repair ticket when the avr was returned so hmmm lol.

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My NR-809 has died. Only get relay clicking at power up. So after much reading here I would like to know which to replace it with ?
Another 809 or 818. They are about the same price and I believe the 818 is newer and may not have the HDMI board problems.
I was very happy with the 809 but after the HDMI board problem and now this I don't want to spend anymore money
on it.

Any input on this would be much appreciated.

i'd forget about the 818 and get this instead. No worrying about onkyo hdmi problems. wink.gif

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i'd forget about the 818 and get this instead. No worrying about onkyo hdmi problems. wink.gif

That's a very nice receiver, no doubt.

Have a look through the Denon forums....they are problem free right? Nothing about HDMI board problems there? rolleyes.gif

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i'd forget about the 818 and get this instead. No worrying about onkyo hdmi problems. wink.gif

That's a very nice receiver, no doubt.

Have a look through the Denon forums....they are problem free right? Nothing about HDMI board problems there? rolleyes.gif

OP: Do you have a store near you where you could listen to both the Denon and Onkyo? Choose whatever sounds best to you because its a crapshoot as to whether you get a lemon or not. It happens. Oh, watch out for the SACD on the 4000, if you have a large collection you like to listen to.

not sure of the need for the sarcasim. fanboi-ism or the like is not why i linked the x4000. but it appears that you may have jumped to (false) conclusions.

I never said denon or anyone is better then onkyo. Heck i own an 809 and love it. However, you cannot say with a straight face that there have not been a disparity of reported failures that tilt toward onkyo over all other brands in the last few years. the x4000 is the current equivalent denon model to the 818 and if someone wishes to not have to concern themselves with the possibility that onkyo's problems have not been cured then it is a good alternative to at least consider.

On this very forum I have stood up for my 809 and have recommended onkyo products as I am a fan of their price to features - they really are an excellent bang for the buck avr. I have not experienced onkyo hdmi issues myself, but do recognize that they exist and that there are viable alternatives out there.

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Jinxxx, as someone mentioned to me in another thread, you may want to wait for boxing day sales to purchase whatever receiver you decide on. Once and awhile a deal does show up.

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