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So my brother is moving into a new house and I believe has 8 pairs of in ceiling speakers in 4 zones he wants to power and use with his Sono system.

Dealer is recco'ing 2 songs amps at 600 each (less whatever discount I'm guessing).

But I was thinking he could do better hooking the Sono up to a multi channel AVR?

Would this work, and of so, what AVR would people recco for this purpose?

I'd guess he'd want at least 3 (or 4?) zones and the receiver would have to at least have a LAN connection, wifi would be better but I damaging those are hard to come by.

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Most multi zone AVRs will be 2 zones only, moving up to 3 zones with more expensive models, and in some cases 4 zones with the upper flagship models. So his max budget will determine how many independent zones he'll be able to get. With the Denon X4000 that has Zone 2 and Zone 3 pre-outs, he would be able to connect a separate 2CH amp to each Zone pre-out and power any combination of speakers as desired (eg. Zone 2 - 2 sets, Zone 3 - 2 sets or Zone 2 - 1 set, Zone 3 - 3 sets). The Denon X4000 is one of only a handful of AVRs on the market today that can pass any PCM 2.0 source audio (HDMI, optical, digital coax, analog) to Zone 2 and PCM 2.0 over optical/digital coax or analog to Zone 3. Any networking sources (eg. Pandora, SiriusXM, Spotify, internet radio stations) would be able to pass to either Zone without issue.

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Do the zones require their own amplification? Ie, do receivers power the zones themselves or will he ultimately need to buy separate amps anyhow? Have never really used additional zones before so am brand new to this.

 

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I believe most AVRs can power a 2nd zone, but 3 or 4 is normally not going to happen wihthout an external amp. I would suspect some of the most expensive AVRs could power 3 zones, but what you are asking to do is probably not worth buying one of those AVRs. I just pulled out a 25 year old Kenwood amp from the garage to power a 3rd zone in my backyard and it works perfectly.
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Do the zones require their own amplification? Ie, do receivers power the zones themselves or will he ultimately need to buy separate amps anyhow? Have never really used additional zones before so am brand new to this.

Depends on how many channels are used in the main zone and the capability of the AVR. A 5.1 AVR would require an external 2CH amp to power Zone 2, whereas a 7.1 AVR could power a 5.1 setup in the main zone and still have 2CH left for Zone 2, and a 9.1 AVR would be able to also power Zone 3 speakers as well as Zone 2 speakers.

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Any older model AVR off the top of your head that would work with the sonos (I assume digital outs) that have at least 3 zones?

 

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Hmm.. Looking at an Onkyo 5007 that seems like it could do the trick. If I'm reading the manual correctly it can power the main zone (say 2 pairs), a second pair for the 2nd zone and a 3rd pair for the 3rd zone? Am I missing anything?

 

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The predecessors to the Denon X4000, 3313CI (2012) and 3312CI(2011).

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