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Hello there AVS crowd,

 

I'm about to trade in my 2 channel setup (PM Pearl Lite + NA7004) for a decent surround all-in-one receiver with good bass management. In the future I will add rears and center. User control should be girl-friendly with a nice app and clean remote. I know an AV receiver is not ment for this purpose sololy, but I'm in need of it's features due to wachting a lot of movies.

 

Searching the deep web, most of the threads push me towards the Denon 4250 due to it's flexible amp setup and good dac's. Pioneer on the other hand has a great app, but class D amps tend to sound a bit less musical. At the moment I'm working with a BK XLS sub and b&w 684's. I've heard my setup with a SR5005 over a year ago end it sounded OK. With the Pearl Lite it sounds a bit better, but it's not like day & night.

 

Do you reckon I will lose a lot of audio clarity by moving to this setup? My Marantz NA7004 has a nice dac, but it's not the best out there.

 

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Anyone with advise? is the 4520 a safe choice for music playback on b&w 684's? Mov \ music ratio here is 40/60...
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Anyone with advise? is the 4520 a safe choice for music playback on b&w 684's? Mov \ music ratio here is 40/60...
The 4520CI is quite capable of driving your b&w 684's setup, along with giving you a lot of features. Very versatile AVR which you can control from a computer or smart device also.
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The 4520CI is quite capable of driving your b&w 684's setup, along with giving you a lot of features. Very versatile AVR which you can control from a computer or smart device also.

 

Thanks for your reply John. I might take the plunge on the 4520. I've just discoverd that Pure Direct shuts down all network traffic, so streaming flac's is not possible in this mode. Pitty.

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Thanks for your reply John. I might take the plunge on the 4520. I've just discoverd that Pure Direct shuts down all network traffic, so streaming flac's is not possible in this mode. Pitty.
Is it not the whole point of "pure direct" to provide a "unchanged" (analog) signal path? If so, any streaming availability wouldn't make sense as it would always involve Digital-analog-conversion.
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The Denon 4520CI would make for an excellent choice, especially using Audyssey MultEQ XT32 and its robust power supply capable of drivin 4-ohm speakers to reference volume levels.

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Is it not the whole point of "pure direct" to provide a "unchanged" (analog) signal path? If so, any streaming availability wouldn't make sense as it would always involve Digital-analog-conversion.

 

Point taken sir. Another thing I want is that my sub is active during 2 channel playback, so pointing out a high pass filter on my mains also disables pure direct for me I guess. 

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The sub can still be active in DIRECT and PURE DIRECT modes simply by setting the sub to LFE+MAIN. Also, AFAIK, network sources will still function using either DIRECT or PURE DIRECT on the 4520CI.
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AFAIK, network sources will still function using either DIRECT or PURE DIRECT on the 4520CI.

 

Hmm interesting, I read a review on this matter and they told the network board gets disabled in (P) Direct modus.

 

Somebody user experience on this?

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It definitely works on my X4000 which means it would also work on the Marantz 7008. JohnAv has a 4520CI so he can check, although you may also want to ask in the 4520CI Owner's thread ...

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1430049/the-official-denon-avr-4520ci-thread/0_100

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Hmm interesting, I read a review on this matter and they told the network board gets disabled in (P) Direct modus.

Somebody user experience on this?
Network audio playback is functional with direct mode, you still see on screen info, and using pure direct disables video processing, so no screen info, but networked audio playback is still present.
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