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post #1 of 11 Old 01-22-2014, 08:09 PM - Thread Starter
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Hey all, first time in, nowhere else to turn...

Picked this unit up for an astonishing $360 open box from Best Buy.  It's replacing a an ancient Denon AVR-1908 (2002 I think?) so I'm sure I'll be pleased.  The thing is, I'm reading about some pretty bad bugs/defects.  Also, I don't need dual zone or 7.1.  It's for my 5.1 living room, that's it.  For around the same price I was really aiming for the Sony STR-DN840 or the Yamaha RX-V475 which I think of as solid Ford F-150s of the AV world.  Before I wire this all up, is it worth the risk?

 

I think many of you are in a higher-end product bracket, but any advice would be appreciated.

 

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For me it would depend on the warranty for open box items. Aren't they usually only a 30 day store return? The price was certainly good.

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If you buy from an authorized dealer I believe open box items still have the full mfrs warranty, which is 3 years for the 3313CI. That's a good price. Hopefully you get the calibration microphone and remote control.

Your 1908 has 2 HDMI inputs so its not a 2002 model. I think it's actually from late 2007.

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Nice price...
But why was the box open..
a. Demo model
b. Customer return

Regardless...
Make sure you get all of the accessories, remote control, Audyssey microphone, AC power cord.
Many times these are missing and can be a pain to get...

Also try and get a 30 day return policy for a full $ refund, in case you find a major problem..

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For more helpful information on the 3313CI, there is a dedicated thread just for Denon XX13 models. Review posts #3-6.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1409431/the-official-denon-avr-xx13-model-owners-thread-faq/0_100#post_21995255

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Wow…. that is a LOT of info.  Big thanks.  I'm going to read up and ponder this.  I have full refund available and the standard coverage, but there is no mic included for the setup.  Best Buy looked for it and were even willing to ship me a replacement but they don't have backups in stock.  That's a biggie. I could dial them in manually, there are always tweaks you make to the auto setup, but it's nice to have that as a starting point.

 

Last question…  if you took away the multi-zone and the wireless capabilities, are left with a good sounding amp worth $350?  I'm guessing yes.  Looking for some guidance.   :confused:  

 

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FWIW, you can find a Denon calibration mic on eBay for around $25 if you decide to keep the unit.
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Thanks, yeah I just got off the phone with Denon and the mic from my old AVR-1908 will work fine on the 3313.  (It was missing from this unit was their shelf demo.) Per Denon only the internal software has changed.  I'm gonna wire up all the bells and whistles then think on it.  I did notice the picture was remarkably improved from the 1908 and Denon confirmed this; the pass-through technology and/or video processing has improved in five years.  They also said the only reason the 3313 was discontinued was because of the x-4000.  That was the original reason for my post - was just a little fearful of buying a discontinued item.

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Denon AVRs are discontinued every year when the newer models are released so nothing to worry about there. Note however, that unless you got a DM-A409 mic (more likely a DM-A405) you cannot use the Audyssey mic that came with the 1908 with the 3313CI, rather only the mics from the following year XX09 and newer models have a comparable mic that can be used on the 3313CI.

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I wouldn't worry about it, that's a good AVR and you will be happy with it. I bought the 3311CI two years ago - same deal - Best Buy open box. I can still get updates from Denon and there is plenty of support available. I have been happy with the unit. You should be able to find a mic easy enough to do the audyssey setup - maybe borrow one, Its not something you use very often.
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Awesome, guys.  Thanks. @jdsmoothie I'll check my old mic model when I get home from work, but why would the Denon rep tell me it was good to use?  Maybe because I'm gonna use it just for 5.1 anyway?  But yeah, they're about $25 on ebay, so could go that route...

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