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Noticed the following press release Wednesday March 12, 2014 announcing:

2014 Pioneer Elite VSX-44 and VSX-80 audio / video receivers (AVR's).


http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20140312005161/en/Pioneer-Elite-Home-Theater-Receivers-Ideal-Custom#.UyCHQxC2zHg

http://www.twice.com/articletype/news/pioneer-debuts-av-receivers-latest-hdmi-specs/110237

http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/Pioneer-Launches-New-Roku-Ready-A-V-Receivers-with-HDMI-2-0-Support-Enhanced-Calibration.shtml
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So, do readers, lurkers and pundits feel these 2014Pioneer Elite VSX-80 and VSX-44 AVR products are an advancement at the MSRP price point ?

Is the room correction, auto-feature an improvement ?

Hyperlink to Pioneer USA website:

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Elite+Receivers/VSX-80

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Elite+Receivers/VSX-44
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Wait wait wait....

 

So now MCACC (both normal version and advanced) EQ the subwoofer(s)?

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I'm confused......

 

For the VSX-44, the bullet points at the top of the screen say "Advanced MCACC with sub EQ", but the list of features and explanations below that only show the VSX-44 having normal MCACC, whereas the VSX-80 says Advanced MCACC.

 

So which is it?

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VSX-80

Pre Outs = Left, Right,
Sub x2.

Why!
What is so hard about putting full pre- outs on units under $1000?
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When will these be available I'm looking at replacing my VSX-1020-K with the VSX-1024-K.

Also, the 1023-k talked about being Windows 8 certified... I can't find any information on that for the 1024- did they remove that feature? I want to be able to stream my music from my desktop.
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I noticed besides adding sub eq they are including Sabre DAC's in the new models other than top of the line and HDMI 2.0.
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At the following hyperlink there are a few more details provided and photographs of the business end, back-end of each 2014 Pioneer Elite VSX-80 and VSX-44 audio / video receiver (AVR).

http://www.ecoustics.com/products/pioneer-vsx-44-80-elite-receivers/
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No MCH (inputs and pre-outs) mad.gif

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I'm confused......

For the VSX-44, the bullet points at the top of the screen say "Advanced MCACC with sub EQ", but the list of features and explanations below that only show the VSX-44 having normal MCACC, whereas the VSX-80 says Advanced MCACC.

So which is it?

Hi,

Sorry for the confusion.

Only the VSX-1124 and VSX-80 have Advanced MCACC with Sub EQ....

The Website is incorrect. I will have fixed in the morning.

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When will these be available I'm looking at replacing my VSX-1020-K with the VSX-1024-K.

Also, the 1023-k talked about being Windows 8 certified... I can't find any information on that for the 1024- did they remove that feature? I want to be able to stream my music from my desktop.

Hi,

All of the new announced models will be shipping from our warehouse this week to dealers. Some of the big brick and mortar retailers take some time before the show up on the shelves, however the online stores should have them by the end of next week.

Also, yes all of the models are Windows 8 certified...

Thanks,

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Chris, how capable is the sub eq?
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I have the 1522, if the sub eq is anything like the comp in the latest gen, I'm game to buy a pioneer again.
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I have the 1522, if the sub eq is anything like the comp in the latest gen, I'm game to buy a pioneer again.

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Hi,

Sorry for the confusion.

Only the VSX-1124 and VSX-80 have Advanced MCACC with Sub EQ....

The Website is incorrect. I will have fixed in the morning.

Chris Walker
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Thanks.

 

Yeah I later saw that banner at the top of the website which stated the only models with Advanced MCACC were the ones you listed. 

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Hmm, only 2 bands below 80 Hz ? frown.gif

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Hmm, only 2 bands below 80 Hz ? frown.gif
Yup, 4 fixed bands for the subwoofer output, but only 2 below the most commonly used crossover point (80Hz).

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Well, that's useless :s

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Per the norm: I'm sure there will be more complex/deeper sub EQ and pre-outs will come on the top tier models.

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Well, that's useless :s
Somebody out there must have peaks in their room at 31Hz or 63Hz. Also, I don't know if Subwoofer EQ is an automated function of MCACC or whether you have to manually drag the sliders (which would first require measuring).

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Well, that's useless :s

Why is that? Equalization affects a range of frequencies, not a single one. These are simply the mid points in the ranges.
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Somebody out there must have peaks in their room at 31Hz or 63Hz. Also, I don't know if Subwoofer EQ is an automated function of MCACC or whether you have to manually drag the sliders (which would first require measuring).

I have a pretty strong peak at 30hz in my room. I don't know if sub EQ is automated either.
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I have to know do the 1124 and 80 have aluminum faceplates? Fingers crossed.
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IMHO..
Pioneer should have considered a parametric EQ for the low frequencies, more flexibility..

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IMHO..
Pioneer should have considered a parametric EQ for the low frequencies, more flexibility..
Agreed, even a single band of PEQ to knock out the largest peak in the subwoofer range would have helped.

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Why is that? Equalization affects a range of frequencies, not a single one. These are simply the mid points in the ranges.

Yes and no:

1. It depends on the Q and the slope of the frequency.
2. If there is a peak at (say) 38 Hz and the slider is at (say) 31 Hz, the only way to bring 38 Hz down is by bringing 31 Hz with the hope of the Q and Slope are wide enough to bring 38 Hz down. But still you will need to bring 31 Hz down when there is no need to actually bring the 31 Hz at all resulting in worse frequency response.

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This was disepointing - who use sub in the 250 hz range ?
A 2-band PEQ would have been much moore usefull !
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