Ok I know this is a loaded question but I am looking at replacing my failing VSX-1121k AVR. Sad.. Very very sad....
I am looking for something comparable. I know newegg often has sales among others.
I have 2 Monitor 70's/CS2 Center/ 505 Sub and Monitor 40 Surrounds. I use mainly for movies/TV.
I could but I am up for new ideas. Why do you prefer Denon and Yamaha?
I think one of the things I am worried about is power. Not sure how much this matters with my setup. Most are 80 or 90 watts per channel and 8ohms.
|Power Output Per Channel(20Hz-20kHz,.08%THD@8ohm)||110|
|Power Output Per Channel (1kHz@8ohm)||120|
|Power Output Per Channel (1kHz,1%THD@6ohm)||125|
It takes a doubling of power to make just a 3dB difference in volume. 3dB, while easily audible, is not exactly dramatic. The difference between 80 watts and 110 watts will almost certainly be trivial. It is only a 1.4dB difference.
Really? Wow. So why do people by such expensive AVRs? Feature wise they seem pretty close once you are at the 4-5 dollar level.
The features get better as one goes up. Some AV receivers have great video processors in them, and that costs money. And there are different levels of sophistication in the automatic setup, which, again, costs money. There are also more connections possible with higher models, and some allow for 9.2 or even 11.2 systems. However, most of the time, the best value is a receiver that is the least expensive one from a good brand that has all of the features one requires. If you look at this:
That is a great unit that has many legacy connections, superb video processing, the capability of running an 11.2 system (with the addition of a stereo power amp), and can put out more power than most receivers (though that is not the reason to get it). It also has very sophisticated automatic room correction. Two steps down, and one is at this:
One still has a very fine unit, but the automatic setup is less sophisticated, the video processing is less sophisticated, it is only a 7.2 receiver, and it is a little less powerful (which is likely totally trivial; it is the features that make the difference).
Both of the above units, by the way, are what I would buy at their respective price points ($1500 & $700) if I were buying one today; they are discounted because they are last year's models. In your price range, you will need something else; the deal mentioned by Acousticality, which is only good for today, is one that you may wish to consider carefully. You can see, though, from looking on the back of it versus the two above, it has much less connection options. That should not be surprising, since it retails for less than half of what the cheaper of the two above retail for. But it also does not compare for video processing capability, and etc. For its price today, I know of nothing else that would compare with it. It is what I would buy at its price point of $300 if I were buying a receiver today at that price.
Regarding power, if one has difficult to drive speakers, then getting something with preamp outputs is a good idea, so one can add whatever power amp one wishes.
Also, it is possible (though unlikely) that a small difference in power will matter. For example, if one needs 1 dB more than what one gets from an 80 watt unit, then the 110 watt model will make all the difference (assuming, of course, they perform as rated, though often units from good brands do a little better than they claim into 2 channels).
I personally like Yamaha, because, judging from online complaints, they seem to be as reliable as anything. Also, I have a brother who repairs electronics for a living, and occasionally I hear him complain about some piece of junk that always comes in for repairs, and he warns me not to buy such brands. He has never told me not to buy Yamaha receivers. And my Yamaha receivers have performed flawlessly over the years. I replace them when I want more or newer features, not because they fail.
Thanks for all the input. The HTR-7065 seems like a steal at 449. Looks like it also has pre-outs.
I guess I am having trouble comparing them to my current vsx-1121k. Features are important but sound quality is the most. I use cromecast for all the streaming stuff. I don't want to down grade!
All have better streaming features. Just worried about quality.
There is also the fact that one might want some of the features of a high model, without wanting all of them. In order to get the video processing I wanted, I had to go with a model that does many things that I don't need it to do. But even low end units do things that I do not require.
One buys from what is available, and so typically if one gets all of the features one needs and wants, one will also get many extra features as well. The only ways around that would be if one happened to need exactly what a particular model has, no more and no less (which is almost never going to be the case), or one would have a unit custom made, which would be much more expensive than buying a model that has extra features one does not require.
Still, I think you are right that many people simply buy a better receiver than they need. And since many of them then have less to spend on speakers, I think it is usually a bad mistake if one cares about actual sound quality.
Any other receiver ideas?