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post #31 of 41 Old 04-04-2014, 06:44 PM
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The Class-D amps in newer AVRs are looking good. OP, you might want to look into something like that.

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That's a good price indeed. What about Yamaha or Marantz? Are they all similar under $700?
Note that Denon is refurbished.

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That's a good price indeed. What about Yamaha or Marantz? Are they all similar under $700?
If you are considering refurb, the cambridge audio 650r is also in your price range.

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After much research, I have to decide between Yamaha A820, A1010, Marantz SR5006, or NR1604

What do you guys think?
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All good choices. I would get the A1010.
Good choice of speakers as well.

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After much research, I have to decide between Yamaha A820, A1010, Marantz SR5006, or NR1604

What do you guys think?

All of those are good choices but I would go with this Denon AVR-2312CI:

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_033AV2312C/Denon-AVR-2312CI.html?cc=07&tp=179

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If you want a Yamaha, then this 1020, which is a year newer:

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_022RXA1020/Yamaha-AVENTAGE-RX-A1020.html?tp=179
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It's true that most AVRs can't keep up with the impedance swings of woofers

Several myths in one short statement:

(1) There are many cases where the worst swings in impedance curves are not due to woofers.

Consider this speaker whose worst impedance swings are above 10 KHz:



(2) That AVRs can't handle them is a myth.
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and do have under powered power supplies driving multiple amps,

What reliable evidence is there that AVR power supplies are underpowered for the purpose of driving speakers with music or drama?

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but if you have a well treated room with a sub (best to have dual matching subs), you can set the cross-over high in the AVR to take load off the AVR's amp and get great sound.

Yet another myth. It is true that a subwoofer takes a signficiant load off of both the LCR speakers and by implication the AVR. I know of no instances where people are setting crossover frequencies excessively high because the AVR can't handle the speaker load. I'm surely not doing that!
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I wouldn't expect a $500-700 AVR to provide "audiophile" quality, but if you invest your money in highly efficient speakers and dual subs you probably can get a very nice sounding system.

Audiophile quality is a myth. Even just mid-priced AVRs use many of the same ICs, resistors, capacitors, power transistors, and DACs as are found in separates.
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After much research, I have to decide between Yamaha A820, A1010, Marantz SR5006, or NR1604

What do you guys think?

Looks good. I would choose the A820 from your list. It will do everything you want to do and more. And, it will avoid having a system with audyssey which is not adjustable. The Yamaha will allow you to tailor the room correction to your preferences. You want that in a 2 channel system. Now you can begin saving for a subwoofer.
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Unfortunately none of this has anything at all to do with sound quality. Zero.

I beg to disagree... I have a Yamaha RX2400 receiver, rated at 120 watts per channel. I also have an Acurus integrated amp rated at 100 watts per channel. The two amplifiers have definitely different sound characteristics. I have a Magnepan 1.6 speaker rated at 5-ohms. When driving the speaker with the same source, the Acurus sounds more dynamic with tighter bass.

My HT system used to be powered by an Onkyo TX-NR906 and i replaced it with a Pioneer SC67. The Onkyo sounded a bit more dynamic than the Pioneer but the Pioneer does not sound as harsh or grainy as the Onkyo.

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I beg to disagree... I have a Yamaha RX2400 receiver, rated at 120 watts per channel. I also have an Acurus integrated amp rated at 100 watts per channel. The two amplifiers have definitely different sound characteristics. I have a Magnepan 1.6 speaker rated at 5-ohms. When driving the speaker with the same source, the Acurus sounds more dynamic with tighter bass.

My HT system used to be powered by an Onkyo TX-NR906 and i replaced it with a Pioneer SC67. The Onkyo sounded a bit more dynamic than the Pioneer but the Pioneer does not sound as harsh or grainy as the Onkyo.

Don't waste your time mate.

Hell I borrowed a Roksan Kandy K1, bloody awful it was...really harsh sounding.

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I beg to disagree... I have a Yamaha RX2400 receiver, rated at 120 watts per channel. I also have an Acurus integrated amp rated at 100 watts per channel. The two amplifiers have definitely different sound characteristics. I have a Magnepan 1.6 speaker rated at 5-ohms. When driving the speaker with the same source, the Acurus sounds more dynamic with tighter bass.

My HT system used to be powered by an Onkyo TX-NR906 and i replaced it with a Pioneer SC67. The Onkyo sounded a bit more dynamic than the Pioneer but the Pioneer does not sound as harsh or grainy as the Onkyo.

You can disagree but I won't listen to your disagreement until you have done a level matched bias controlled comparison.
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