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Marantz AV8802 13.2 XLR Pre/Pro **Official Thread**

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Hi,

The new Marantz AV8802 relacing the actual AV8801 has been announced, it's a 13.2 XLR processor, HDMI 2.0 ISF video and Wifi + Bluetooth integrated, with Audyssey MultEQ XT32 and an Audyssey Pro capacity. Indicated Public Price : 3800€... on the high side compared to the 8801 listed at @ 2800€.See details here :http://www.avcesar.com/actu/id-14423/marantz-av8802-pre-amplificateur-remplacant-de-lav8801.html (in French)





and for information to be compared to Denon's AVR-X7200W rear panel :



Hugo

FW Updates :

04/06/15 :

- A .dff file cannot be played from USB and the media player
- Even if the Sleep Timer setting is set to All Zone Stereo from Mobile App, Sleep Timer operates in Zone 2 only.
- When the customer selects "Amp Assign = Dolby Atmos, Layout = 7.1 CH + 4 Height", the help text of GUI displays an unnecessary explanation in the Pre-Amp setting.
- When Dynamic Volume is turned off with the AMX command, Dynamic EQ is also disabled.


one curious thing I noticed is when the marantz was in standby the oval display still had a few pixels lit --- very dimly.....so flipped down the front panel to reveal the main display....AND !

very curiously it said "ZONE 3 On" even though the marantz was in stand by ! aha I thought found something here. of course how the hell do you turn zone 3 off...as I dont have a zone 3 or a zone 2 for that matter...only a main zone...and likely why this is leaving my power amp on ?

nothing in the menus to switch off zones....so decide to look at the marantz remote...lo and held it has a zone button on it ...which if press it cycles through zones and the power button can then switch on and off each zone ! turned off zone 3 and woohoo...my power amp switches off ! victory !!!!

made sure zone 2 was off and then switched the remote to the main zone only.

so there you go. only thing I can think off is the zone button accidentally hit on the marantz remote and in powering on it has powered on zone 3 ? and hence thinking why the amp needed to stay on ?

anyways wiht all triggers on in the menu and with hdmi cec control off...no zones engaged wooohoo pleased to say triggers both are working as they should.

so thank good ness nothing has infact failed woohoo...no trips to the service centre !

one to chock away guys ....zones ...they can play with your triggers...good to also explore the hdmi cec side as with the complex trigger setup the thing has
will notify the one at the wheel….
The following is a list of fixes/changes included in the Feb 04th firmware update (DTS:X + HDMI 2.0a) :

1) Ability to use "Rear Height" instead of "Surround Height" with Auro 3D (which then allows using FH+RH for all 3 formats: Atmos, DTS:X, Auro 3D using a single Audyssey calibration)
2) HDMI 2.0a(HDR)
3) Add the "DTS: X" and "DTS Neural:X" sound mode feature.
4) When the customer plays DD + stream that exceeds 504kbps at specific Media Player (Tmall Magic box TMB300A), the sound might not be output from the AV receiver. The symptom is a problem that the product has the failure in playing DD + stream that exceeds 504kbps. (Improvement request from Dolby Laboratories, Inc.)
5) Even if the customer sets "Tone Control" to "ON" with the WEB control setting screen of the AV receiver, and the numerical value of Bass or Treble is changed, the AV receiver doesn't reflect a set value. The symptom is a problem that the AV receiver cannot set Bass or Treble from the WEB control.
6) When the input source of AV receiver switches automatically from Blu-ray (function during SACD playback) to TV Audio, the sound of the broadcast via ARC from specific TV (Panasonic) might not be outputted. The symptom is a problem that the sound of the broadcast via ARC from specific TV (Panasonic) might not be outputted.
7) Even if the customer sets Level FR from the WEB control screen of the AV receiver, the customer cannot confirm a set value of Level FR because the display on the WEB control screen doesn't change. The display of Level FR on the WEB control screen doesn't change but Level FR on the AV receiver side is changed. The symptom is a problem that the customer cannot confirm a set value of Level FR because the display on the WEB control screen doesn't change.
8) When the customer connects MAC Book to the AV receiver and then the specific MP3 file (Album art size is bigger than 1000x1000 pixels) is played from iTunes via the AirPlay, the AV receiver reboots before starting the playback of the MP3 file. The symptom is a problem that the AV receiver reboots before starting the playback of the MP3 file. (# 2-30-20150721-1 by EU region)
9) If the customer inserted the iPod classic to USB-A terminal on AV Receiver with standby mode (over 8 hours or more), when the customer turns on the power of AV receiver, the AV receiver cannot connect to the iPod again. The symptom is a problem that the AV receiver cannot connect to the iPod when the customer turns on the power of AV receiver. (#2-53-20150427-2 by EU region)
10) When the customer connects the AV receiver to HDMI output of specific Streaming Media Player (Roku 4) that the output setting of the resolution is set to 4K, the AV receiver doesn't output the video or the AV receiver has a latency until the output video. The symptom is a problem that the AV receiver doesn't output the video or the AV receiver has a latency until the output video.
11) Custom 2CH playback settings added
Auro 3D Upgrade instructions:

1. Connect the unit to the internet.
2. Ensure the unit has the latest firmware update installed.
3. Using the GUI, select Upgrade now (or go to SETUP -- GENERAL -- FIRMWARE -- ADD NEW FEATURE) and write down the "Upgrade ID" listed on the display
4. Go to the Upgrade website on the Marantz website at http://upgrade.marantz.com/na/marantz/pages/home.aspx
5. Complete the Auro 3D upgrade Personal form to include personal information, the unit's serial number (listed on back of unit or on original box), and the Upgrade ID obtained in step 3.
6. Enter credit card information - $199 USD (includes Auro 3D Demo Disk).
7. Once the card has been processed, the Auro 3D upgrade will be available to download to the unit (estimated download time - 49 minutes)


***** Also ... for those not wanting to upgrade to Auro 3D at this time, you will be given the option to turn Upgrade Notification OFF or you can just go to SETUP -- GENERAL -- FIRMWARE -- NOTIFICATIONS -- UPGRADE and select OFF so you don't get the Upgrade notification each time the unit is powered ON. :)

The following resets are available on the AV8802/A.

A. With the AVP powered OFF, press/hold the two buttons listed below on the AVP's front panel for 4-5 seconds after releasing the power button.

Microprocessor reset – GAME+A-DSX

Factory/Deep Reset (includes microprocessor reset) – MOVIE+MUSIC


B. With the AVP powered ON and the "Online Music" source selected, press/hold the two buttons listed below for 4-5 seconds

Network Reboot (network card only) – BACK+ ENTER

Network Reset (network card + following settings initialized: Favorites, Smart Select, Presets, Internet Radio recently played, Flickr contacts, User ID, Resume Playback station) – M-DAX+DYNAMIC EQ

After installing the DTS:X update, the Marantz Remote App might not work. So this update is to fix that issue.

4/6/2016
(1) When the customer updates the firmware to "DTS: X", the product might not be able to operate from the Marantz Remote App.


July 04, 2016

- When customer connects the AV receiver with the specific BD player (Sony BDP-CX960 and Sony CX-7000 Blu-ray Jukebox) via the HDMI and playback the contents of "DTS-HD", the AV receiver doesn't recognize the audio of "DTS-HD". Therefore, the specific BD player outputs the audio signal with Multi ch PCM.
The symptom is a problem that the "DTS-HD" format signal is not output.
- In a network environment in which AV receiver is connected, the network module of the AV receiver reboots when Netflix APP starts on the iOS device.
The symptom is a problem that the network module of the AV receiver reboots when Netflix APP starts on the iOS device.
- The audio intermittently becomes interrupted when HD cable TV program switches from DD with DSU to PCM based commercial using Dolby Surround.
The symptom is a problem that the audio intermittently becomes interrupted when HD cable TV program switches from DD with DSU to PCM based commercial using Dolby Surround.
- When the customer plays a specific file by USB Memory device, the track name is changed one after another in 25 seconds. (File that the number (01 and 02, etc.) are recorded at the beginning of the name.) The symptom is a problem that the track name is changed one after another in 25 seconds.
- When the customer inputs the 2ch audio signal with the following specific condition to the AV receiver, the Center channel output signal is distorted.
Sound mode: DTS Neural:X Input signal: amplitude = over 440mFFS (40% vs full scale) and frequency=720Hz / 2.7~4.1kHz
The symptom is a problem that the Center channel output signal is distorted by the specified condition.
- After the firmware updates to corresponding to the "DTS:X" feature, the following failure occurs in the AV receiver.
When the surround mode is "DTS:X", the surround parameter "Neural:X" of the initial value is OFF. The symptom is a problem that the surround parameter "Neural:X" of the initial value is OFF when the surround mode is "DTS:X". (The correct initial value is ON.)
- After the firmware updates to corresponding to the "DTS:X" feature, the following failure occurs in the AV receiver.
When the customer inputs the DTS signal of 2ch to the AV receiver, the AV receiver shows "DTS Neural:X" on the display but the audio signal is not output with "DTS Neural:X". The symptom is a problem that the AV receiver shows "DTS Neural:X" on the display but the audio signal is not output with "DTS Neural:X" when the customer inputs the DTS signal of 2ch to the AV receiver.
- When the customer switches the sound mode from the Denon Remote App, the following failure occurs in the AV receiver.
Example: The sound mode becomes the "Dolby Surround" even if the customer selects the "DTS Neural:X" in the sound mode.
The sound mode becomes the "DTS Neural:X" even if the customer selects the "Dolby Surrouds" in the sound mode.
The symptom is a problem that the sound mode is not correctly selected even if the customer selects the sound mode.
- When the customer connects iPod/USB and MediaServer to the product, and music is played, the product was a specification that do an unnecessary access.
- When the black hole router was present between the Internet environment of the AV receiver and DPMS server (including the Internet service provider side equipment), the AV receiver might fail in the firmware update. (The black hole router is a router that destroy it when the divided IP packet cannot be forwarded.)
jdsmoothie said:
October 28, 2016

1. DSU on DTS sources
2. Neural-X on Dolby Sources
3. Pandora logon fix
jdsmoothie said:
April 25, 2017

1. Added support of the 2016 Marantz Remote App version 2.2.0
2. Counteracted upcoming Spotify platform changes.
3. Corrected issue where Audyssey data would not save with Quick Selects
4. Corrected issue where Info screen would not disappear after AVR power up.
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#10,861 ·
Hello everyone,

Just bought this unit as my first dedicated pre/pro. I've been using a Pioneer Elite SC-65 as my pre/pro. Will connect this device to my Emotiva XPA-5 tonight. Any suggestions that the manual may not tell me?
Please take a look at the Audyssey 101/FAQ. The instructions in the owner's manual are woefully inadequate.
 
#10,862 ·
Audio Out dilemma

I just got my 8802A a couple of days ago, and overall I really like it. But, here's my first stumbling block: I still have a turntable, and I have occasion to copy LPs to my Tascam CD burner. My old Onkyo 5509 had Audio Outs, missing on the 8802A. It seems to me the only way to make this work is connect the Tascam to the headphone port with a 1/4" to RCA adapter. Any better ideas?
 
#10,863 ·
I just got my 8802A a couple of days ago, and overall I really like it. But, here's my first stumbling block: I still have a turntable, and I have occasion to copy LPs to my Tascam CD burner. My old Onkyo 5509 had Audio Outs, missing on the 8802A. It seems to me the only way to make this work is connect the Tascam to the headphone port with a 1/4" to RCA adapter. Any better ideas?

Zone 2 line out with fixed volume level might work.
 
#10,864 ·
I see, thanks Dave.
Can you list your cooling products/set-up? Or even take a few images, I'm curious to see how you're doing things?

I use an open-type rack (BDI brand, "Axis") with 8 components occupying 7 glass shelves. There is 1.25in spacing between the top of the AV8802A chassis and the next glass shelf above. If I had to do it all over I would re-adjust the lower shelves downward to gain an extra 2in to 4in spacing. I was thinking a fan blowing sideways could at least draw some heat outward from the AV8802A (especially during California summer months). Oh well, at least the rack is open on all sides
I used parts from: http://www.coolerguys.com/

Here's what they look like in the rack:
 

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#10,867 ·
Zone 2 line out with fixed volume level might work.
I thought of that, but aren't the Zone outs for amps only?
I wasn't in front of my 8802a when I answered. But now that I am I see that the volume setting for zone 2 under general setting let's you change from "variable" or any volume step all the way from -79 to past 0. I think if you set it to zero it will act as if it set for line level. I would hook it up and start at -79 and slowly raise the volume to 0 if your recorder has a way to monitor recording levels you could check that regular music material looks like you are getting the right level without cliping or just going above clip.(no body can tell that I used to record music from the radio to my tape deck right?) you should be OK.


I wasn't aware of the fact that the 8802a didn't have a normal line out.
 
#10,868 ·
I thought of that, but aren't the Zone outs for amps only?
Normally but if it is fixed it's no different than the output you were using on the Onkyo. You should be good to go.
 
#10,869 · (Edited)
Zone 2 line out with fixed volume level might work.
I thought of that, but aren't the Zone outs for amps only?
I wasn't in front of my 8802a when I answered. But now that I am I see that the volume setting for zone 2 under general setting let's you change from "variable" or any volume step all the way from -79 to past 0. I think if you set it to zero it will act as if it set for line level. I would hook it up and start at -79 and slowly raise the volume to 0 if your recorder has a way to monitor recording levels you could check that regular music material looks like you are getting the right level without cliping or just going above clip.(no body can tell that I used to record music from the radio to my tape deck right?) you should be OK.


I wasn't aware of the fact that the 8802a didn't have a normal line out.
There is one more way. If the tascam has an out put you could hook the record player out to the tascam in and the rascal out to an input on the marantz. But then you would always have to have the rascal armed for recording if you wanted to listen to a record. And I am assuming your record player has a built in amp.

Just thinking out loud....
 
#10,871 ·
"...That SMELL...that e-lectronic SMELL.....you know what it smells like?........4K processing.....
yep :) It's actually a good smell, fresh components and PC boards, plus heat, all melding together. I guess moreso a sign of new components?

You know son, someday this hobby's gunna end............."
yep, once I run out of money :)
 
#10,873 ·
There is one more way. If the tascam has an out put you could hook the record player out to the tascam in and the rascal out to an input on the marantz. But then you would always have to have the rascal armed for recording if you wanted to listen to a record. And I am assuming your record player has a built in amp.

Just thinking out loud....
Interesting alternative. The Tascam does have an audio out. But, the turntable is a mid-80s Denon, so I would need to buy an outboard phono amp (I already need to buy six new speakers and a seven channel amp to make Atmos work, so yet another purchase is less than appealing. The 8802A alone was a major outlay for me.). Plus, as you say, The Tascam would always be needed to listen to LPs.
 
#10,874 ·
Chris's comments on FB don't say anything about the mic but since the Pro mics do plug directly into the AVR/pre-pro, I don't see why they wouldn't be able to support the pro mics for those that already have them. The calibration file would still be valid so I don't see why it would be a big deal. I guess it is a matter of getting the cal file to the app? Guess we'll find out sooner or later. But, it does sound like this is only for future products going forward, so looks unlikely that the 8802A will be supported. 7703 and future 8802 replacement most likely.
I will inquire about the Audyssey iOS app. I've known they've been working on this for the last year and I'm hoping it does some of the things that were hinted at when I talked to Marantz late last year. If it does, I think some Audyssey folks will be really happy.

@Kris Deering

certainly look forward to hearing what you find out. have no problem with an audyssey IOs app especially if just makes the whole process a lot easier :)

I do hope the hell that the calibrated audyssey mic can indeed be used though. e.g. as you suggest just pointing to the calibration file ! especially since the no1 think I feel the pro kit brings is its better calibrated mic rather than the supplied plastic thing.

while as you say suspect non support of this for the 8802A I do hope the current audyssey pro support continues on the unit as it is :)
 
#10,875 · (Edited)
I wasn't in front of my 8802a when I answered. But now that I am I see that the volume setting for zone 2 under general setting let's you change from "variable" or any volume step all the way from -79 to past 0. I think if you set it to zero it will act as if it set for line level. I would hook it up and start at -79 and slowly raise the volume to 0 if your recorder has a way to monitor recording levels you could check that regular music material looks like you are getting the right level without cliping or just going above clip.(no body can tell that I used to record music from the radio to my tape deck right?) you should be OK.


I wasn't aware of the fact that the 8802a didn't have a normal line out.
I like the elegance of this solution. Unfortunately, it didn't work for me. I got no signal at any volume level. The headphone jack does work, but the downside is I can't hear the LP while recording.

EDIT: OK, I'm a geezer. On the Zone 2 page of the manual, I missed the little detail about setting the input to phono. Once that little detail was fixed, the Zone 2 solution works great. I'm starting with the volume at reference 0.
 
#10,876 ·
@Kris Deering

certainly look forward to hearing what you find out. have no problem with an audyssey IOs app especially if just makes the whole process a lot easier :)

I do hope the hell that the calibrated audyssey mic can indeed be used though. e.g. as you suggest just pointing to the calibration file ! especially since the no1 think I feel the pro kit brings is its better calibrated mic rather than the supplied plastic thing.

while as you say suspect non support of this for the 8802A I do hope the current audyssey pro support continues on the unit as it is :)
I finally got around to running my Pro cailbration this weekend. Was awaiting a new couch and for the 8802a to have some hours on it before running the pro cailbration. It sounded really good before, I did a quick cailbration with the mic that comes in the box when I got the 8802a. Doing the Pro cailbration with the better mic makes a big difference IMO. Would love to see an app that makes the process easier and available to more people. The Pro kit isn't cheap, I bit the bullet years ago when I bought the 8801.

My guess is they will make more money, for those that don't know even after you buy the kit you have to buy a $150 license to run the calibration of every unit. (You can use the license to run multiple cailbrations on the same unit).
 
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#10,877 ·
I wasn't in front of my 8802a when I answered. But now that I am I see that the volume setting for zone 2 under general setting let's you change from "variable" or any volume step all the way from -79 to past 0. I think if you set it to zero it will act as if it set for line level. I would hook it up and start at -79 and slowly raise the volume to 0 if your recorder has a way to monitor recording levels you could check that regular music material looks like you are getting the right level without cliping or just going above clip.(no body can tell that I used to record music from the radio to my tape deck right?) you should be OK.


I wasn't aware of the fact that the 8802a didn't have a normal line out.
I like the elegance of this solution. Unfortunately, it didn't work for me. I got no signal at any volume level. The headphone jack does work, but the downside is I can't hear the LP while recording.

EDIT: OK, I'm a geezer. On the Zone 2 page of the manual, I missed the little detail about setting the input to phono. Once that little detail was fixed, the Zone 2 solution works great. I'm starting with the volume at reference 0.
I am glad it worked out! Happy recording!
 
#10,878 ·
Airplay has stopped working

I’ve been enjoying music with Apple’s Airplay on my 8802A until a week ago when Airplay just stopped working. I access Airplay from iTunes on my Apple laptop and the Airplay icon appears as always, but as soon as I double click a song to play, the Airplay icon turns orange and in a few moments iTunes says “The AirPlay device “Marantz AV8802” is not available.”

I’ve changed no settings. I ran the diagnostics in the 8802A and it says the WiFi Network is working. Nevertheless, I’ve reset the WiFi, unplugged the 8802A and restarted it. No help.

My Wifi just tested out with a download speed of 88Mbps and an upload speed of 12Mbps.

Any ideas?
 
#10,879 ·
I’ve been enjoying music with Apple’s Airplay on my 8802A until a week ago when Airplay just stopped working. I access Airplay from iTunes on my Apple laptop and the Airplay icon appears as always, but as soon as I double click a song to play, the Airplay icon turns orange and in a few moments iTunes says “The AirPlay device “Marantz AV8802” is not available.”

I’ve changed no settings. I ran the diagnostics in the 8802A and it says the WiFi Network is working. Nevertheless, I’ve reset the WiFi, unplugged the 8802A and restarted it. No help.

My Wifi just tested out with a download speed of 88Mbps and an upload speed of 12Mbps.

Any ideas?
In post 3, item 11 of the 2015 Denon AVR Owner's thread (linked below), I list a number of troubleshooting tips that apply to both Denon and Marantz models. Give the tips I list for item 11.b "Airplay speaker not available" a try.

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-re...ner-s-thread-faq-hdcp-2-2-a.html#post34728921


Airplay Speaker Not Available”: This issue may be a result of not turning OFF the NET/USB source on the AVR (as opposed to just changing inputs). When you are finished with the Airplay audio, press/hold the remote ENTER button. Another solution is to uncheck the Airplay symbol on the iPhone/iPad (putting it on the iphone/iPad speaker and thus breaking the handshake).
 
#10,880 · (Edited)
It was fixed, then went out again…

In post 3, item 11 of the 2015 Denon AVR Owner's thread (linked below), I list a number of troubleshooting tips that apply to both Denon and Marantz models. Give the tips I list for item 11.b "Airplay speaker not available" a try.

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-re...ner-s-thread-faq-hdcp-2-2-a.html#post34728921


Airplay Speaker Not Available”: This issue may be a result of not turning OFF the NET/USB source on the AVR (as opposed to just changing inputs). When you are finished with the Airplay audio, press/hold the remote ENTER button. Another solution is to uncheck the Airplay symbol on the iPhone/iPad (putting it on the iphone/iPad speaker and thus breaking the handshake).
Unplugging the 8802A for 30 minutes did it! Woo Hoo! Thanks!

Wonder what would have created the problem…

LOVE the quality of music through this system. I will eventually try high definition music, but even iTunes stuff over WiFi with this setup is just fantastic. Clarity, punch. Love it.

Correction UPDATE: It just went out again. I did the same procedure. Unplugged 8802A for several minutes; restarted computer. That brought it back up.

But, what is going on? This is looking to be an on-going issue…
 
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