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post #31 of 47 Old 06-27-2014, 09:11 PM
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Seven year old product dies after it's two year warranty expired five years ago......what was your expectation?

How could Onkyo have made it right in your eyes?
NORMAL PEOPLE (not the sheeple that populated this country in last 30 years) would require a product that lasts 30+ years, AS my old Curtis Mathes is doing and my speakers from the 70s.
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NORMAL PEOPLE (not the sheeple that populated this country in last 30 years) would require a product that lasts 30+ years, AS my old Curtis Mathes is doing and my speakers from the 70s.
I would say that "NORMAL PEOPLE" should have the right expectations
as many items today are actually less expensive then they were a few years ago...especially Asian branded electronics
I am amazed at how people gravitate towards the lesser expensive item( which Onkyo typically is within the same class) and have top end expectations

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I've had similar overall excellent reliability in the Onkyos I've owned and installed in systems for clients. But I always ensure strong ventilation/cooling, usually active. They do have their quirks, but are manageable and an acceptable tradeoff for the many desirable features and performance, otherwise.


I must say that I'm extremely concerned about Onkyo abandoning Audyssey.
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NORMAL PEOPLE (not the sheeple that populated this country in last 30 years) would require a product that lasts 30+ years, AS my old Curtis Mathes is doing and my speakers from the 70s.
Well, here's a wake up call for you, electronics haven't lasted for decades for at least 3 decades. If you get 10 years out of a receiver without issues you should consider yourself fortunate. They simply don't make them to last anymore. We all wanted cheaper prices so manufacturing got moved offshore. We continue to want cheaper prices, so cheaper parts and such are used to get us our cheaper prices. What did you expect?
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Well, here's a wake up call for you, electronics haven't lasted for decades for at least 3 decades. If you get 10 years out of a receiver without issues you should consider yourself fortunate. They simply don't make them to last anymore. We all wanted cheaper prices so manufacturing got moved offshore. We continue to want cheaper prices, so cheaper parts and such are used to get us our cheaper prices. What did you expect?
In part, we want cheaper prices with respect to electronics/computers because it allows us to take advantage of rapid technological change.
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Hmmm....
How many of the guys complaining.....
Failed to follow Onkyo's instructions to provide 6" of free-air clearance for the L/R sides and top cover....

Just my $0.05...
Mine was on the top of my rack. It has easily 6 feet of free space above and 2 feet on each side. Still failed.
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And mine sits in a rack with 2 inches clearance. No issues after 5 1/2 years.
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Things could get worse. Onkyo is in the process of buying Pioneer's A/V business which is about 3 times bigger than they are. I wouldn't get anywhere near either brand despite my being a Pioneer fan for many years. Yamaha next for me.

Wow...really? that would suck balls. guess it's Yamaha for me as well.

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Wow...really? that would suck balls. guess it's Yamaha for me as well.

that data he posted was BS

even then...pioneer has been struggling financially for years in everything but their car audio business

The car audio business was "keeping the lights on"

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Hmmm....
How many of the guys complaining.....
Failed to follow Onkyo's instructions to provide 6" of free-air clearance for the L/R sides and top cover....

Just my $0.05...
My 709 sat on top of a piece of furniture, open to the world.

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My 509 just failed, 3 years old. E-mail Jose at Onkyo customer service. He responded within hours and approved a one time out of warranty repair. It will be sent off tomorrow.

It appears Onkyo knows it has issues and they are addressing it.

I love this HD stuff!
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Why is this a thread. Did your customer experience really trump those of the ones in the dedicated 805 thread? Are you just that special?

Do we not already have dedicated "I need to complain about Onkyo" threads as is?
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And mine sits in a rack with 2 inches clearance. No issues after 5 1/2 years.
Has Onkyo sent you a fanboy plaque?
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I'm anal about having ventilation for my AV gear. I owned a very hot running HK 520 AVR for quite a few years keeping it cool with an 80mm fan. That same 520 is owned by my sister who still has that same fan cooling it when it's on.

When I bought a refurbished Onkyo PR SC885 5-6 years ago the first thing I did was install a 140mm fan that came on with the 885. I expected it to last a few years. It made it 31 days. Onkyo was helpful and paid shipping to return it for a swap. When I got it back I decided to sell it and buy a new Integra DHC 40.1 which comes with a 3 year warranty. Good thing too! The HDMI board and the radio tuner board both went south at 2 years & a month. After getting that fixed (I paid shipping to the repair facility) I sold it. In the meantime an Onkyo 506 I had bought new for a 5.1 bedroom setup that never got done (2.1 is better IMO) that I sold to a nephew had the HDMI board die about 6 months out of warranty. He asked me to see if Onkyo would fix it - they declined.

So now I've got a Yamaha RX-V3900 (it has its own fan) for HT and a Harman Kardon HK990 for 2 channel. They run in a hybrid setup - the HK990 is an amp for the front L/R speakers in HT mode. I have a pair of 140mm fans that sit flat on top of the HK990's pair of heat sink/vents that come on with a smart strip.

Even though I keep things cool sometimes some things just don't last. Bad luck? Maybe. To be fair I've owned 2 Onkyo stereo receivers over the past 10-12 years that worked great. One (an 8255) is still going strong with one of my nieces. She thrashes that poor thing daily and has been for 4-5 years now.

I'll consider Onkyo HT gear when they start making decent products again. For now they aren't reliable IMO.

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Has Onkyo sent you a fanboy plaque?
Actually, no they haven't! I was hoping you could put a good word in for me?
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I would honestly say quality on AVR's in general has really gone down in the past 5 years. Seems a avr last a few years and needs to be replaced because something failed. My old 3090 yamaha is still running strong and the Onkyo I bought after it bit the dust after a couple of years (HDMI issues). Heard about issues with the new Denon stuff also. They pack in a ton of features at the cost on all these new AVR's but quality from all these brands seems to be lacking. May just be my luck but I don't think I know a single AVR that has good build quality and good sound... Loss of Audussy is big to me. I have a integra 50.4 which has been great so far but I will not be buying another one without Audussy. I actually feel I will get better sound quality out of my current setup then the new 50.6. Really want Atmos but thinking I'm better off waiting with all the corners that seem to be getting cut...
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