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post #1861 of 24174 Old 07-23-2014, 04:35 PM
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Now that I just read the link that 3ll3d00d posted, I've made up my mind too. I am sitting out this year and waiting for next years models. Too bad really, I have always liked Onkyo a lot.

Worst part for me is that I am in the middle of my new build out with Triad Silver LCR's all around in preparation for Atmos.
Same here and I just bought (in March) a Yamaha CX-A5000 so when I do take the plunge I think it will be Yamaha but that could change as I don't know what their plans are beyond the receiver's coming out this fall. I just think there's lots to be learned here with Atmos in the home but when I do go..it's 7.1.4 for me or more.

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I was watching Transedence last night that was amazing me how much sound was coming from the wide speakers during playback with DTS Neo:X The film was done with an Atmos soundtrack. The soundtrack on the Blu-ray with DTS MA sounded pretty amazing with decoding being done with Neo:x. I had selected the front hight and wide for playback duty. At times the high channels were pretty busy with music. Didn't notice any effects though. Not saying effects weren't there, I just didn't notice them. During the credits I did notice music was spread out into the wides. Even placing my head to listen to the left and left wide or the right and right wide speakers reveled strong channel separation. I know they are matrixed but wow the separation was very obvious.

What I am getting at is it seems the audio mix for these Atmos films carry over well to the Blu-ray Neo:x playback. I also wonder if the the audio mixers are having some fun and filling these channels with intentional effects for Blu-rays?

I am looking forward to Atmos. I didn't think it would be transitioning to the home theater so fast. Glad it is though. I wonder though how much I may end up missing my wide channels if they don't carry over into the new equipment?

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Denon X4100 and X5200 officially announced: http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/press...nd-avr-x5200w/

The X5200 blurb mentions 9.x.2 support:

The AVR-X5200W supports a 5.1.2, 5.1.4, 7.1.2, and even a full 11 channel Dolby Atmos setup; taking advantage of 7.1.4* or 9.1.2* Dolby Atmos configurations (* with additional 2-channel power amplifier). A 7.1.4 speaker configuration is based upon a traditional 7.1 speaker layout complemented by four overhead, or Dolby Atmos-enabled speakers. A 9.1.2 configuration is based on a 9.1 speaker layout with two overhead speakers.

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Are those links old and obsolete and/or have already been mentioned?

1. http://www.areadvd.de/tests/special-...t-in-muenchen/

2. AccuEQ Vs Audyssey

* How's my French? ... http://www.hdfever.fr/2014/07/03/onkyo-pr-sc5530 ... Onkyo new SSP

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Since wides are being supported as an Atmos configuration, I wonder if 7.1.4 can be done with wides and a single pair of surrounds (as opposed to the typical sides and rears). Same number of speakers, just wides instead of rears.
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What speaker configuration can you accommodate? 5.1.2 or 7.1.4 or something in between?
My wish list fronts, center, wides, surrounds, two subs and four ceiling speakers....
But my pockets may not be that deep. I have 11 speakers and two subs right now and switch back and forth between audyssey DSX and DTS Neo:X which I like the best. I very rarely use the back surrounds.

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10' X 15' DEN Onkyo TX-NR 737 5.2.2 Atmos / Acoustic Audio 151B Indoor/Outdoor Speakers top middle on Ceiling Speakers/ Samsung PN51F5500 / Directv Genie / Panasonic 3D blu-ray /
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Since wides are being supported as an Atmos configuration, I wonder if 7.1.4 can be done with wides and a single pair of surrounds (as opposed to the typical sides and rears). Same number of speakers, just wides instead of rears.
That's my thinking I like wides much better then the rears, then to add either two or four ceiling speakers that would be sweet.....

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10' X 15' DEN Onkyo TX-NR 737 5.2.2 Atmos / Acoustic Audio 151B Indoor/Outdoor Speakers top middle on Ceiling Speakers/ Samsung PN51F5500 / Directv Genie / Panasonic 3D blu-ray /
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My wish list fronts, center, wides, surrounds, two subs and four ceiling speakers....
That's 11 speakers, which upcoming receivers will support, but it is not clear whether they can be configured for a version of 7.1.4 that has wides instead of back surrounds. Since you're not in a rush, wait till the instruction manuals are posted on-line.

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I really hate to do this, but i just can't help it!
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That sure is a lot of connections.
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That aluminium says's Yamaha...Come on tell...


Edit: I guess it could be anyone...

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That's 11 speakers, which upcoming receivers will support, but it is not clear whether they can be configured for a version of 7.1.4 that has wides instead of back surrounds. Since you're not in a rush, wait till the instruction manuals are posted on-line.
TX-NR 3030 but I will never spend that much on a first generation atmos receiver..... I will wait a year or so till the second generations come along before I get the big boys. it will most likely be Denon because I want an audyssey AVR, this Accu-EQ room calibration I'm not too sure about it may be fine but I have my doubts.

My main setup Onkyo TX-NR 1030 7.2.4 /Onkyo M-5010 Amplifier for top middle/ Samsung PN60E8000 / Directv genie / Panasonic 3D blu-ray Bic Acoustech speakers,MICCA M-8S FH/TM on wall / in ceiling speakers / 2 Bic F12 subs
10' X 15' DEN Onkyo TX-NR 737 5.2.2 Atmos / Acoustic Audio 151B Indoor/Outdoor Speakers top middle on Ceiling Speakers/ Samsung PN51F5500 / Directv Genie / Panasonic 3D blu-ray /
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What's a guy gotta do with 9.4.6?

Datastat?

Atmos is already traveling North with cost.....
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My room is 22 x 15 x 8. I wonder which of these two modes would be better to go with, the 5.1.4 or the 7.1.2 that the Denon AVR-X4100W is capable of?

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What's a guy gotta do with 9.4.6?

Datasat?

Atmos is already traveling North with cost.....
There's the Trinnov, but that too is extremely expensive.

Listen up, studios! Just say "NO" to DNR and EE!!
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There's the Trinnov, but that too is extremely expensive.
Saved my pennies and almost purchased an ADA Trinnov TEQ-12........but with Atmos, 12 input/outputs is not enough. TEQ-12 was pushing budget........so is Datastat.......32 input/output Trinnov is definitely too much of a pill to swallow.
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If it just came in silver. Your in the right name, wrong price level.
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Onkyo (AV receivers) come in silver and black. ...Integra (b).

Marantz (SSPs) come in champagne and black.

Am I right?

* Denon (b&s), Yamaha (b), Pioneer (b). ...North America.

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Look again: The official Dolby Atmos thread (home theater version)

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Onkyo (AV receivers) come in silver and black. ...Integra (b).

Marantz (SSPs) come in champagne and black.

Am I right?

* Denon (b&s), Yamaha (b), Pioneer (b). ...North America.
Tip of the iceberg.
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Alternative viewpoint about importance of top surrounds vs. height surrounds - starts at 4:30:


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Auro? Really?
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The future theaters will be spheres, and the sound coming from everywhere; @ 360 degrees, horizontally, vertically, above and below.

We are sensitive to sound from all around.

And we won't need 66 speakers @ home, but only 6 (3D rectangle) . ...And 2 subs. ...Through intelligent DSP manipulation we'll be transported anywhere, in any type of environment, space and illusion. ...And all in a realistic way as we know it.

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