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post #2671 of 28054 Old 07-31-2014, 04:07 PM
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But even @ home it is a smart thing to do, just like you did yourself Roger in your own home theater.
In my case, I am running a mono signal to all the subs. EQs and delays are different, but that does not affect this distance issue.

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Thx Dan (CP850 = Heart of Dolby Atmos 'commercial' Cinema Processor - Object Audio System), gotcha!

* What does the 850 stand for? ...The number itself.

P.S. & thx Orbitron for that above link.

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2. Dolby Atmos | "The Apes" & New THX Trailer
The Number is the next sequence to a long line of Dolby Cinema Audio processors. 550/650/750/850, etc, etc. The CP stands for Cinema Processor.

And the payoff is never certain: Some observers contend that a generation has already been trained to be content with the small screen.

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Have we even heard of when we will see the discs with Atmos encoded yet?

I saw a Def Tech ad today in sound and vision for their add on component. Seems we are getting lots of equipment push but were and when on the the soundtracks?
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I have a 5.2 system and cathedral ceiling (over a 3 car garage): this is beginning to sound like a big project, with some risk, to upgrade to Dolby Atmos
I think it is safe to say upward firing speakers is out for you. However, if your ceilings are not two stories high, i think ceiling speakers would work with some kind of creative engineering that kept them parallel to the floor.

Of course, when Dolby releases the "whitepaper" we would have the answers to these questions.

And the payoff is never certain: Some observers contend that a generation has already been trained to be content with the small screen.
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Have we even heard of when we will see the discs with Atmos encoded yet?

I saw a Def Tech ad today in sound and vision for their add on component. Seems we are getting lots of equipment push but were and when on the the soundtracks?
That, is all on the Studio's.

And the payoff is never certain: Some observers contend that a generation has already been trained to be content with the small screen.
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Have we even heard of when we will see the discs with Atmos encoded yet?
Unfortunately not. Still no official word. Lots of speculation.

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I have a 5.2 system and cathedral ceiling (over a 3 car garage): this is beginning to sound like a big project, with some risk, to upgrade to Dolby Atmos

With an "unforgiving" ceiling my thought is that you might discard all three "top" speaker pairs from consideration, and evaluate whether you can make the Front Height Left|Right (FHL|FHR) and|or the Rear Height Left|Right (RHL|RHR) speaker pairs work for you instead . . . either placing height speakers on-wall or on stands (away from the walls) at the correct height...?!
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Unfortunately not. Still no official word. Lots of speculation.
I have to imagine that there will be a formal announcement of titles in August or at the latest CEDIA. If not then, the natives will really start to get restless.

It already looks like some potential titles are out of the running this year, Godzilla and The Amazing Spider-Man 2 being two of them. Unless I am reading into it (which is possible), Warner Brothers and Sony may be Atmos hold outs.

I would think Fox and Disney would be among the first.

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In my case, I am running a mono signal to all the subs. EQs and delays are different, but that does not affect this distance issue.
Say that you are watching 'Saving Private Ryan' remastered in Dolby Atmos for Blu-ray,
and there is a loud explosion coming from the right (or left) side/rear surround channel direction;
then with your four subwoofer's arrangement in your room you experience a more accurate/enriching depiction of the surround sound mix "realism" as you would in real life in a combat zone.

Your four subs are fed all the same LFE information plus all your main channels' bass redirected to them;
all summed up, but because you have two subs @ the rear/corners in your room (in addition to the two other front/corner ones), that rear explosion still has a proper impact on your senses.

In addition/alternative to that; some people will use four subwoofers near the four main/principal speaker channels (LF, LR, RS, LS) and with their respective bass comin' from them respective channels. And, a fifth sub dedicated for the LFE channel only (could be @ the rear center, a few feet or so from the back wall, behind the second row of seats) - And a big one @ that, with an 18" quality driver inside a quality enclosure with a quality parametric EQ.

Actually, nowadays all quality/performing subwoofers should come equipped with a quality parametric EQ in them (and DSP Phase correction).

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The Dolby Atmos CP850; it most likely has some stuff in it in that regard? ...Plus a choice of well tought-out crossovers with selection of slopes?

It is most interesting and captivating what Dolby Atmos with their overhead speakers, and all that it implicates on the new surround envelope that it will bring to all of us @ home.
...New bass management, new DSP algorithms (surround processing), crossovers, phase, etc.

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I have to imagine that there will be a formal announcement of titles in August or at the latest CEDIA. If not then, the natives will really start to get restless.

It already looks like some potential titles are out of the running this year, Godzilla and The Amazing Spider-Man 2 being two of them. Unless I am reading into it (which is possible), Warner Brothers and Sony may be Atmos hold outs.

I would think Fox and Disney would be among the first.
Definitely. On both parts.

I will be going to CEDIA for the first time this year and my main draw is audio and anything Atmos related while I'm there. Then I'll get to the rest.

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I have to imagine that there will be a formal announcement of titles in August or at the latest CEDIA. If not then, the natives will really start to get restless.

It already looks like some potential titles are out of the running this year, Godzilla and The Amazing Spider-Man 2 being two of them. Unless I am reading into it (which is possible), Warner Brothers and Sony may be Atmos hold outs.

I would think Fox and Disney would be among the first.
Early adopters may buy a title for Atmos alone.
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It was here, in post 2147.

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The Number is the next sequence to a long line of Dolby Cinema Audio processors. 550/650/750/850, etc, etc. The CP stands for Cinema Processor.
Thx Andy. ... Cinema Processor (CP); I just learned it yesterday I believe.
And the number 850; now today.
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Definitely. On both parts.

I will be going to CEDIA for the first time this year and my main draw is audio and anything Atmos related while I'm there. Then I'll get to the rest.

Hoping for something official by September.
I'll be at CEDIA too (I don't have far to travel)! It's all about the Atmos. I'm signed up for Dolby's 90 minute spiel on Friday. Maybe I'll see you there.

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Have we even heard of when we will see the discs with Atmos encoded yet?

I saw a Def Tech ad today in sound and vision for their add on component. Seems we are getting lots of equipment push but were and when on the the soundtracks?
Dolby have already announced that content will be available when the hardware is launched this fall, with more to come in 2015.
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Unfortunately not. Still no official word. Lots of speculation.
There has been official word, Scott. I just linked to it above.
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Discuss the topic in a straightforward, scientific manner.
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Dolby have already announced that content will be available when the hardware is launched this fall, with more to come in 2015.
Yup, even mentioned that Atmos would be available via streaming. Now it's just a question of naming titles.

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A simple answer to that is to use the post's unique ID number and the POST command [post]post ID number goes here[/post]. The post ID number is the number at the end of the url when you click the post number in the thread. In the example you just used it is 26053730, so putting that between the POST commands will take you directly to the post regardless of the Post Per Page setting.

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Hugo's excellent review is linked in this post!
Yes, I already got that Keith, thx.
But chi_guy went two more further: 1. Not typing the number post indicative sign or hashmark/hashtag sig (#) and 2. Not indicating the page # as it varies from one member to another. And that was the part very informative to me.

Plus, he gave me exactly the post number (which I searched but failed to find in vain) of Hugo's very informative review on Dolby Atmos home demo. ...Post number 2147 in this very thread right here, and which for me (30 posts per page) is @ page number 72.

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Yup, even mentioned that Atmos would be available via streaming. Now it's just a question of naming titles.
I'm assuming all of the current crop of Atmos blockbusters will be released on Bluray to coincide with the Atmos launch at CEDIA. I foresee a double-dipping frenzy coming on in my household. Again
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If Atmos BD's start coming out soon, I'll be buying them before getting the hardware in place.

Double dipping redux...you are not alone, Keith
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Yes, I already got that Keith, thx.
But chi_guy went two more further; 1. Not typing the number post indicative sign or hashmark/hashtag sig (#) and 2. Not indicating the page # as it varies from one member to another. And that was the part very informative to me.

Plus, he gave me exactly the post number (which I searched but fail to find in vain) of Hugo's very informative review on Dolby Atmos home demo. ...Post number 2147 in this very thread right here, and which for me (30 posts per page) is @ page number 72.
The point is, if you use the post command and the unique ID, there is no need to give page numbers, post numbers, hashtags or anything else. The post's unique ID will always take the link-clicker to the right place.
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Have we even heard of when we will see the discs with Atmos encoded yet?

I saw a Def Tech ad today in sound and vision for their add on component. Seems we are getting lots of equipment push but were and when on the the soundtracks?

It is my understanding that someone posted earlier that there was going to be an Atmos-related announcement August 11th. I don't remember which thread I read it in.

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Interesting, these clips sound really good on my computer speakers (HK Soundsticks) and give lateral imaging way outside them; one sound seemed to come directly from my side.


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I'm assuming all of the current crop of Atmos blockbusters will be released on Bluray to coincide with the Atmos launch at CEDIA. I foresee a double-dipping frenzy coming on in my household. Again
As I mentioned to Scott, it may be that Sony and Warner Brothers might not be playing ball this time around... at least for initial releases. Two of their summer Atmos mixed blockbusters have had their specs published already and they happen to list DTS Master Audio. On Spider-Man 2, Sony pulled a Gravity and released it with only a 5.1 track.

What kind of ---- are some of these guys pulling?

The only other thing I can think of is that some may be intending to release separate, limited or "special" edition Dolby Atmos discs apart from their normal lineup. :shrugs:

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The point is, if you use the post command and the unique ID, there is no need to give page numbers, post numbers, hashtags or anything else. The post's unique ID will always take the link-clicker to the right place.
Yes, but first you need to find that post ID number, right?
...And that I didn't have till chi_guy gave it to me (from that post number 2147). ...Comprende.

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It is my understanding that someone posted earlier that there was going to be an Atmos-related announcement August 11th.
11th, 12th, 13th. Hopefully the announcements will cover hardware (technology) and software (movies).
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Call me an optimist - key question is how Atmos will do up mixing are current formats. Hopefully someone attending a demo can ask to hear that. I believe FilmMixer has also send that Dolby has stated that up mixing performs well. It would be great to not be tempted to replace favorites like Private Ryan assuming a new Atmos mix was released for that film.
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