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post #31 of 52 Old 07-02-2014, 04:56 PM
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No multi-channel input??? Big let down right there and probably a deal breaker. How am I going to listen to my wonderful 32bit ESS in the Oppo 105D? Come on Onkyo that's just not right.

Also no Neo:X??? Boo
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The only thing for sure is that Onkyo's AccuEQ is developed by Dolby for Onkyo...based on Onkyo training in Canada.
FWIW.

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Can some one comment on power supplies and 2 DSP chips on Onkyo PR-SC5530. Are the power supplies/el transformer and DSP chips same as SC5509 . Was there any upgrade on either of these. If I understand correctly 2 DSP may be faster than previous models and power supplies have been upgraded in 5530. Has any one written to Onkyo and got confirmation on either.

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No multi-channel input??? Big let down right there and probably a deal breaker. How am I going to listen to my wonderful 32bit ESS in the Oppo 105D? Come on Onkyo that's just not right.

Also no Neo:X??? Boo
Excellent point, same boat with the UD9004.

The AV8802 will have 7.1 in, but no one knows yet what will be under the hood. I am encouraged to dream on based on the Cinenow review talking about a lot of copper near the end of the article, that usually means premium components and the Made in Japan logo looks so Geiger counter friendly:
http://www.cinenow.fr/articles/28854...rs-audio-video

Furthermore Kal Rubinson and others seem to love what the HDAMs do with analog processing and smoothing.,

The AV8802 a no-brainer for this longterm Onkyo/Integra fan.

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Ok, is it time to upgrade my SSP (Integra XT32) to that Onkyo unit, or should I concentrate on Pioneer Elite, or Yamaha Aventage AV receivers?

Or! Marantz latest SSPs, or Denon latest AV receivers?

Audyssey XT32 is dead, Dolby Atmos is alive, newly born.

Parametric EQs (Pioneer & Yamaha) are a wise alternatives.

And Marantz and Denon are still using XT32. ...A dead technology.

What about Dirac Live, or Emotiva XMC-1? ...But no Dolby Atmos here, only PEQ and Diracless (for now, and who knows for how long exactly).

For more money, Datasat... ...Can they use that stuff in affordable units?

* I'm right back to zero, exactly where I started life. ...So many choices, so many directions, and so little time.
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Announced as THX Select? Why is a pre-amp even given a THX rating since it would all be dependant on the amp?

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THX has post processing features. My Lexicon has THX Ultra 2 cert. Things like re-eq and dedicated THX mode.

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THX has post processing features. My Lexicon has THX Ultra 2 cert. Things like re-eq and dedicated THX mode.
There are many other factors that THX covers, including now video issues, in AVRs and AVCs. In the audio realm, the gain structure is strictly defined so that you can easily predict the amplification requirements to reach THX Reference in a given room if you know the sensitivity of the loudspeakers. THX-certified amps will also observe the same gain structure protocols so that this is possible. It's not a well known THX benefit, but applies well established engineering protocols from the professional/commercial field.


I know, we all say that we could do that on your own. But that was not so easily done in the home environment when THX came on the scene. Today so many products have adopted that very gain structure despite not being a THX certified product. I used Emotiva amps in a room design that was otherwise all THX-certified products. I verified input voltage with Emotiva. It matches the THX gain structure requirement, therefore I could specify other products with confidence of what I could achieve in the room.


My point is that although THX has kind of sold out in many ways, therefore diluting their apparent influence, they quietly raised the bar for the audio field. One of the reasons that THX is so lacking in influence these days is that so many of their specs have been freely adopted through the products in the industry over the years. Those are no longer recognized as "THX" features.


The biggest torpedo in the water for this and the rest of the new Onkyo line is the omission of XT32. Over on the Home Atmos thread, there is a link to a German comparison review of AccuEQ and XT32. There is no comparison. Marantz and Denon, here I come.
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This one Camera Man? ... AccuEQ Vs Audyssey

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* THX certification: In a Surround Sound Processor (SSP) is a good thing to have; lots of parameters passing the mustard (preamplification and video wise). ...No need for it, but a good reassurance nonetheless. ...Good in AV receivers too, in HDTVs, in ...

=> Yeah, I know, a slight downgrade to THX Select2 Plus, and no more Audyssey MultEQ XT 32 (with Pro Ready-ness), and I think that the DACs are no longer by TI Burr-Brown but by Cirrus Logic? ...What about the DSPs; which brand, which model(s) numbers, and how many of them?

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Hi,

FWIW a (my own) feed-back on Onkyo PR-SC5530's Dolby Atmos capabilities can be found here (in French) :

http://www.homecinema-fr.com/forum/p...tml#p178195863

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Announced as THX Select? Why is a pre-amp even given a THX rating since it would all be dependant on the amp?
- Ultra2 Plus.

- Preamp parameters and video parameters (THX Ultra2 Plus certification)
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Here is what made the hairs rise at the back of my head as the owner of 700+ SACD/DVD-A/BD-As along with a modest collection of high rez downloads:

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Engineered for Hi-res Audio

Onkyo A/V receivers are engineered for universal hi-res compatibility and ease of use. It's now remarkably easy to enjoy albums mastered in high-resolution that you've downloaded and stored on your computer or media server. The remote app very quickly locates the 192/24 and 96/24 high-resolution audio files on your network-attached storage devices and sends them via DLNA to the receiver with zero loss in quality. Almost every hi-res and lossless format is supported, from gapless FLAC and WAV to ALAC and WMA. The PR-SC5530 also handles 5.6 MHz DSD and Dolby® TrueHD formats for the ultimate in depth and clarity. With surpassing DSP power, hi-res music on your home theater is not only easy to enjoy, it sounds absolutely fantastic as well.
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Pure Direct Analog Path Offers Interference-Free Hi-fi Amplification

At the touch of a button on the front panel, Pure Direct Analog Path mode brings higher fidelity to vinyl, SACD, or CD playback via your home theater. With this mode engaged, every digital circuit is physically shut down to prevent electrical interference on analog audio signals. Signals pass directly from the phono or analog audio inputs to the amplifiers and arrive at your front loudspeakers in pure analog form.

The improvement in audio quality is quite dramatic. With subtle interference erased, you can hear more detail deeper down in the mix, while the rich tonal character of vinyl is displayed in all its analog glory. This mode also lets your home theater receiver double as a dedicated analog stereo amplifier for quality source components, if space or budget precludes a dedicated hi-fi stereo system.
Then I quickly realized that it was propaganda geared at audiophiles, a mea culpa of sorts for dropping the 7.1 inputs.

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just a news, this preamp is on sale now!
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Hi,

A collective article of a long test of the new Atmos Onkyo PR SC5530 processor that was made for HCFR, can be read (in French) here :

http://www.homecinema-fr.com/onkyo-p...-au-quotidien/

and it also gives an idea of what AccuEQ does or can do.

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Hi,

Having just written for the HCFR Community (as a gift for Christmas ) an article (mentionning the 5530 ) on the 24fps -> 25fps remix of the Atmos versions of the Luc Besson's Lucy film, this writing also contains a short video of the process, that gives a very good idea on how an (here excellent) Atmos mix can look and what can be done with objects.

So if you are interested it's available here (in French) :

http://www.homecinema-fr.com/le-mixa...-25is-de-lucy/

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Just noticed a major downgrade of the amp section. XLR is now rated at just 400mV vs the 2V of the 5509... THD also went up to 0.08% instead of 0.05% of the 5509.

Wow, Onkyo gave up on sound quality.
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No multi-channel input??? Big let down right there and probably a deal breaker. How am I going to listen to my wonderful 32bit ESS in the Oppo 105D? Come on Onkyo that's just not right.

Also no Neo:X??? Boo
Please allow me to educate anyone that is now considering these units and issues.
I'm an owner of both the PR-SC5509 and Oppo BDP-95. Unfortunately the multi-channel input on the PR-SC5509 is a waste, at least for me. I love this pre-amp EXCEPT for the fact that Audyssey is disabled when using the analog multi-channel inputs. It's in the fine print and you can hear it too (Note: Audyssey IS enabled for 2-channel analog.) Unfortunately, for multi-channel I must use the HDMI and utilize the PR-SC5509's DACs in order to reap the significant benefits of the Audyssey. I use the XLR outputs from the BDP-95 for the 2 channel playback which is via headphones 99% of the time. Other than that I love the 5509. Personally I would not attempt to "upgrade" to the 5530. I definitely wouldn't want to lose the Audyssey and some specs for the sake of delving into Atmos. On paper the 32-bit DAC upgrade makes me envious for multi-channel use but I'm not sure if they sound any or dramatically better (and with a new correction scheme).

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I have read the product information on their website and just want to confirm. Is the Zone 2 HDMI output fully independent? For instance, I have Source A and Source B connected to the preamp via HDMI A and HDMI B. Can I watch Source A on main HDMI OUT at the same time I am watching Source B on Zone 2 HDMI OUT in another room? This will help eliminate my need for a HDMI matrix switch.

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I have read the product information on their website and just want to confirm. Is the Zone 2 HDMI output fully independent? For instance, I have Source A and Source B connected to the preamp via HDMI A and HDMI B. Can I watch Source A on main HDMI OUT at the same time I am watching Source B on Zone 2 HDMI OUT in another room? This will help eliminate my need for a HDMI matrix switch.

Thanks in advance!
Nevermind. Found the info buried in the data. It is fully independent.

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