Originally Posted by Ricoflashback
There might not be any discernible difference in the audio quality with an OPPO & a low cost Bluray Player via HDMI, but there is a noticeable difference in the video quality when I'm using my projector - BenQ W1080 ST - 100" 16 X 9 screen. I also have an older Sony Bluray player that I keep in the chain for Amazon Prime streaming. To me, it's a better picture with the projector via the OPPO 103 as opposed to Sony - - direct comparison via a Bluray disc. On my smaller 65" Sammy LCD/LED - - you can't tell as much difference. (Turns out that I don't stream that much anymore because I like the quality of Bluray & I have multiple Redbox locations near my house and at $1.62 for a Bluray movie - - that's not a bad price.)
Fact is that the video processing on the new Oppo BD players is performed by Marvell Qdeo chips. According to Marvell's web site, http://www.marvell.com/digital-entertainment/qdeo/
the following products use Marvell Qdeo chips:
Onkyo TX-NR5009 and TX-NR3009 Receivers
Cambridge Audio Azur 751BD
Pioneer’s SC-57 AV Receiver
Pioneer Elite SC-57 and SC-55Receivers
Onkyo HT-S9400THX Home System
Onkyo BD-SP809 Blu-ray Player
Integra DTR series Home Theater Receivers
Pioneer Canada Elite Home Theatre Receivers
I don't take the absence of any mention of Oppo equipment in the list above as an indictment of Oppo's claims. Rather, it appears to me that the above is a non-exclusive list. IOW there are other unspecified pieces of equipment with the same video processing, presumably including the Oppo BD players.
8 out of 9 of the products listed above are mainstream AVRs.
It appears that not only are the above user claims about Oppo video quality superiority over AVRs, are not only unsupported but they are possibly contradicted.
Oppo themselves make the following comments:
Q: How come these new Blu-ray players lack analog video support?
A: There are two practical reasons for going all-digital for video:
1. The AACS “Analog Sunset” rule. It is well known in the industry that analog video output from component and composite video outputs for Blu-ray playback is already limited to 480i resolution on newly released models, and after 2013 analog video output will not be allowed. Since we expect the production of these two models to extend beyond 2013, we decided to be upfront by not offering analog video output instead of waiting to disable or remove the analog output after 2013.
2. The general industry direction of moving towards digital video. As shown in many newly released TV and AVR products, there are more HDMI inputs and less analog video inputs compared to older TV and AVR products.
Most importantly, in order to take full advantage of the excellent picture quality offered by these players, using the HDMI output is a must. The video processing features are only available over the HDMI output. HDMI is also required if a user wishes to watch any video in 3D or 4k resolution.
IOW analog video outputs are going the way of the dodo bird, so discussion of them is already moot for most AV system owners, and will shortly become moot for all AV system owners.
My statement: "For example it is a technical fact that spending $500-1,000 on an Oppo BD player makes no sense if you are going to attach it to the rest of your system with a piece of HDMI cable because HDMI bypasses the majority of the high quality circuitry in the Oppo."
continues to stand, unrebutted by any kind of reliable evidence.